Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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as it should be

¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

jesus fucking christ

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 November 2016 02:38 (seven years ago) link

“At this point I could see that his both hands were clenched into fists which I interpreted as a pre-assault cue,” Ahern wrote. “I grabbed him by his shirt

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 13:37 (seven years ago) link

America in a nutshell, basically

¶ (DJP), Monday, 5 December 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link

that fucking henry fonda of racist america is going to go and celebrate with his racist friends

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Monday, 5 December 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Monday, 5 December 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link

one holdout and eleven guilty votes

of course

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 23:12 (seven years ago) link

This is insane. That cop shot an unarmed man in the back from 18 feet away.

Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link

This is America. After watching what's been happening in the news and what happened in the past election, I'm not sure that this should be that shocking to anyone who has been paying attention.

¶ (DJP), Monday, 5 December 2016 23:47 (seven years ago) link

Did they ever confirm the cop blatantly planting the taser on Scott's body during the video?

Nhex, Monday, 5 December 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

So the juror apparently said early on his mind was made up and he wasnt going to change it.

Good quality in a juror to arrive at an opinion and basically say youre not willing to hear persuasive arguments

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link

this will go to a retrial and a guilty verdict right, or will they keep planting a kkk member

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:06 (seven years ago) link

kkk member average white american

fixed

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link

His defense was "he was running away but he could have turned around and come back so I felt threatened" and he dodn't get convicted.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:17 (seven years ago) link

there were 11 white people on the jury and 10 of them said he was guilty, can we cling to that?

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:21 (seven years ago) link

does jury service discriminate against idiots?

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:21 (seven years ago) link

does jury service discriminate against idiots?

― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago)

voir dire is supposed to weed out people who are obviously prejudiced/not judging based on the evidence, but clearly that process isn't working particularly well.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:26 (seven years ago) link

you can blame the lawyers for that, no?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:27 (seven years ago) link

The old saying goes that juries are made up of people too dumb to get out of jury duty.

schwantz, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:41 (seven years ago) link

voir dire is supposed to weed out people who are obviously prejudiced/not judging based on the evidence, but clearly that process isn't working particularly well.

― xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Monday, December 5, 2016 6:26 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah tho this is also how jury nullification is supposed to work for ppl trying to sabotage the war on drugs, can't say i'm surprised that the right has co-opted this tactic

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 01:34 (seven years ago) link

brought it back home, you mean

j., Tuesday, 6 December 2016 02:44 (seven years ago) link

http://www.businessinsider.com/walter-scott-jury-dorsey-montgomery-2016-12

This is your ongoing reminder that a) shit is complicated, and b) find out what actually happened before writing fanfic about a shitty situation.

This is also the clearest, most concrete example of the perniciousness of privilege you could come across.

¶ (DJP), Friday, 9 December 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/12/alabama-police-fake-arrest-marriage-proposal-tasers
the threat of police violence in the US is now so normalized that we've gone beyond SWATTING to kisscam style surprise ring presentations
i don't even know

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

So deeply offended by that whole thing, saw it on someone's fb the other day. Comments are like "WIFE HER" because she put her body between her partner and what she believed were possible bullets? Yes, definitely, that's what we need, more Black women dying for the men in their lives. Traumatize her with the very real threat of death by police violence and then traumatize her again with being a public spectacle when she didn't know she was being surveilled. The biker gang element is prob significant here because that's the kind of performance of loyalty that is like some kind of ideal, I guess?

Plus for the police to be like YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE GOOD PR? THREATENING TO SHOOT SOME BLACK PEOPLE. JK THO! Just profoundly grotesque on all levels.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link

I think for 2017 I will just surgically attach my palm to my face

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

That's horrible.

¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

mental health in this country is a wasteland.. my best friend since I was 9 had a psychotic break 2 years ago and basically lives out of his car and wanders around muttering to himself.. Im scared to death of what will happen to him

thanks reagan!

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

Bakersfield, despite it's luminous musical history, is currently the equivalent of California's asshole

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

jesus that's awful

k3vin k., Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

mental health in this country is a wasteland.. my best friend since I was 9 had a psychotic break 2 years ago and basically lives out of his car and wanders around muttering to himself.. Im scared to death of what will happen to him

― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries)

yeah my childhood best friend is schizophrenic, self-medicates with alcohol, believes he is jesus, and may very well kill somebody some day. but hey, what can you do, right?

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link

http://thedaily.case.edu/state-says-case-western-reserve-student-unarmed-when-shot-by-police/

The Case Western Reserve law student killed by a Hudson police officer Dec. 4 was shot five times, the Summit County Medical Examiner’s office reported yesterday.

The information came a day after Ohio authorities announced that Saif Nasser Mubarak Ali Alameri, 26, was unarmed at the time of the incident. A spokesperson for the state’s Bureau of Criminal Investigation (BCI) told reporters that the only weapon found at the scene was Hudson Police Officer Ryan Doran’s gun.

Funeral services for Alameri were held Friday in Abu Dhabi, the capital of his home country, the United Arab Emirates (UAE). International media outlets noted that Alameri had a younger brother and two sisters. His father, Nasser Al Ameri, has told reporters there that he plans to come to the U.S. to learn more about the circumstances involving his son’s death.

“Saif was my rock, I relied on him for everything,” his father told the Al Arabiya news service. “He was a practicing Muslim and an amazing person.”

Also Friday, the UAE Ambassador to the United States, Yousef Al Otaiba, issued a statement noting that he had spoken to Ohio Gov. John Kasich and thanked him for state officials’ cooperation to date.

“I also emphasized the importance of a thorough, transparent and timely investigation into the tragic shooting death of Mr. Alameri,” the ambassador’s statement continued.

In addition, the UAE ambassador’s statement noted that representatives from the Abu Dhabi Police Department had come to Ohio to collaborate with an embassy team in representing Alameri’s family. The group met with state investigators, Hudson police, and the Summit County medical examiner, the statement continued.

Last week, the Summit County medical examiner said that Alameri had died of a gunshot to the head, and ruled the death a homicide. The state’s investigation of the matter is continuing, and is expected to last for several more weeks, if not months. BCI ultimately will turn over its findings to prosecutors in the Ohio attorney general’s office.

Alameri had come to Cleveland from the UAE this summer to earn a Master of Laws (LLM) degree, an internationally recognized academic credential. He had planned to return to his home country to practice law and eventually hoped to lead a large firm. His father told journalists last week that his son planned to enter national service after he graduated from Case Western Reserve.

On the afternoon of Sunday, Dec. 4, police said, Alameri was driving on the Ohio Turnpike when the vehicle he was driving flipped. Witnesses reported that Alameri had exited the car and headed away from the road. Later, Hudson police officer Ryan Doran found Alameri in a nearby wooded area. Police said last week that the two became involved in a struggle before the shooting.

Their encounter was recorded by a dash cam video that Hudson police released last week; in it, the officer crosses in front of his police car, draws his gun and yells, “Stop, I’ll shoot” before exiting the camera’s frame. The rest of the encounter, including several loud sounds that appear to be gunshots, can be heard but not seen.

Last Wednesday, Dec. 7, law school representatives met with LLM students in the morning while the university hosted a gathering for all students that afternoon in Tomlinson Hall. Case Western Reserve officials have extended condolences to Alameri’s family, and spoken with representatives from the UAE and the state of Ohio. Members of the law school community are meeting this week to discuss ways to honor Alameri, and also are collecting condolence notes from students to forward to Alameri’s family.

The university’s counseling services office continues to have walk-in appointments from 8:30 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday through Friday at its offices in Suite 220 of the Sears building; counselors also can be reached after hours at 216.368.5872.

marcos, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

jesus fucking christ

¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

A friend of mine is the International Student and Scholar Liaison at CWRU and she and her office are VERY deeply involved in trying to get to the bottom of this.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

this thread is fucking horrifying

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

not nearly the same level as most of the stuff on this thread but still

A 7-year-old Akita named Baloo was shot and killed by LAPD officers this past weekend, according to Baloo's devastated family. The dog's owners intend to file a claim against the LAPD.

Officers responded to a duplex in Mid-Wilshire on Sunday, December 11 after receiving reports of an assault with a deadly weapon, KTLA reports.
Taylor Harrell, whose family lives in the upstairs unit of the duplex, told KTLA that they heard two gunshots and spotted flashlights in their backyard, leading them to believe that someone was trying to break into their home.

According to a GoFundMe set up to cover the family's legal costs:

We quickly called 911 and just to find out that the cops were already there. Confused we ran downstairs just to be detained by officers telling us to go back in the house with their guns pointed at us. They kept saying that they'll address us afterwards. The entire time we waited we were unsure of what was going on. When they finally came and spoke to us we found out that a police officer shot and killed our dog.

...

The incident is presently under investigation with the LAPD. As LAPD. Sgt. Jack Richter tells us, any shooting—be it human or animal—is investigated by the Force Investigation Division (FID). The results of that investigation are still pending. He could confirm that officers were responding to a radio call, but no other information was available at this time. KTLA reports that officers stated Baloo was barking at them in an aggressive manner, giving them no other choice.

nomar, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

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¶ (DJP), Friday, 16 December 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

http://thedaily.case.edu/remembering-saif-nasser-mubarak-ali-alameri/

The first news stories spoke of an “erratic driver,” “running wildly,” killed after “a struggle” with a local police officer.

Two days later, the world learned that the man who had lost his life in the woods of Hudson Dec. 4 was Saif Nasser Mubarak Ali Alameri, a member of the Case Western Reserve community.

All at once, a tragic incident some 26 miles from campus became a deeply personal, painful moment.

In the weeks since, students, faculty and staff at the School of Law have grappled with shock and grief, as well as questions regarding how an unarmed individual ended up dead, with shots to his head, face and leg.

They also have felt sadness that thousands of people know only outlines of the last minutes of Alameri’s life, rather than the full picture of the friend and classmate they came to know over the past few months.

In response, the law school has created a webpage for remembrances about Alameri, as well as an online home for projects students and faculty will pursue in his honor.

“This memorial is designed to broadcast the voices of the people who knew him and those who interacted with him,” wrote law school Deans Jessica Berg and Michael Scharf in an introduction to the site, “the people who can help us remember the loss to our university, the loss to his family and friends, and the harm to our society caused by these kinds of senseless deaths.”

Alameri, 26, came to the United States from the United Arab Emirates to pursue a Master of Laws (LLM) degree, an internationally recognized academic credential. He had earned an undergraduate legal degree in his home country, and had won a scholarship from an organization in the UAE to attend Case Western Reserve.

Upon arriving on campus in July, Alameri quickly became known among his classmates as the kind of person who always offered others a smile and support. He often gave rides to classmates who lacked their own transportation, and even provided a couple days’ lodging at his own home for one whose apartment was not yet ready.

“That was the first week of law school,” Saeed Al Ali posted on the memorial site. “He didn’t know me well but he refused to make me live in hotel and he said, ‘your brother is here.’ … At the end, we lost one of our brothers.”

Jihanne (Jane) Flegeau, an LLM student from France, also encountered Alameri early in the program. She had been anticipating the start of classes with a mixture of excitement and nerves. On her way to the first LLM meeting, she spotted Alameri on a bench near the building.

“We talked a little, he made me laugh, smile and realize that everything will be all right,” she posted on the memorial page. “This is how I will remember him. As a bright and kind man.”

Lewis R. Katz, the school’s John C. Hutchins Professor of Law and director of Foreign Graduate Studies, was on a school outreach trip to the Middle East when he learned of the death of the friendly and outgoing student from his Foreign Graduate Seminar. Alameri, Katz recalled, made a point of engaging LLM students from all parts of the world.

His classmates “knew him as someone who would always give them a smile and an encouraging word,” he said.

LLM student Arsalan Alvi provided a firsthand example of Alameri’s support for friends in a post on the memorial page.

“I remember the last time we met after a class,” Alvi wrote. “We were both on our way home and when he caught me worried about my exams (my natural reaction to exams), he said, ‘You will get honors, wait and see. You are smart.’”

Jonathan Gordon, a professor of law and associate director of the LLM Lawyering Skills Program, taught Alameri in his U.S. Legal Analysis and Writing course. He recalled that Alameri regularly sat in the center of the front row, between a student from Germany and another who was a judge in Oman. Like other faculty, Gordon found Alameri exceptionally friendly and polite, with a great generosity of spirit.

One of Professor Gordon’s most striking memories involved a weekend meal that Alameri and other Middle Eastern students organized last month. He was proud of his home country, and eager to share its food and aspects of its cultures with those attending.

“I remember how graciously Saif served the special hot tea to many of us,” Gordon wrote in an email. “He was very enthusiastic about showing a video of his country … and talking to everyone about the UAE. He was happy and smiling.”

The school’s memorial page includes a video of that event taken by a UAE student.

Ali, the UAE student that Alameri assisted with lodging at the beginning of the semester, and Ali Alblooshi, another classmate from that country, visited Alameri’s family to express condolences personally upon returning after exams.

“I miss his humor, and the beautiful smile, which greeted us every morning and evening,” Alblooshi said. “It’s hard merely to think that we will not meet again with our friend, but Saif’s memories will live on in our hearts, our prayers, our conversation and in every corner and place we met with him.”

State law enforcement officials are continuing their investigation of Alameri’s death. When it is complete, they will turn over findings to a unit of the Ohio Attorney General’s office. The Daily will continue to provide updates regarding the case as developments warrant.

marcos, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

That doesn't look like anything to me.

Gorvernment Stoodge (Old Lunch), Friday, 13 January 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link

https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertsamaha/blue-lies-matter?utm_term=.rw3EnMdoGl#.sk5lAz32G7

survey of ~60 incidents checking police statements against video evidence

j., Wednesday, 18 January 2017 04:00 (seven years ago) link

https://www.whitehouse.gov/law-enforcement-community

welp

, Friday, 20 January 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link

probably the single most frightening thing I read today.

we go from a White House demanding accountability from police forces to one that basically tells them "do your job by whatever means necessary".

great.

Neanderthal, Friday, 20 January 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link

Our job is to make life more comfortable for parents who want their kids to be able to walk the streets safely.

fuck you

difficult listening hour, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:00 (seven years ago) link


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