Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

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seriously when do the damn tickets go on sale

El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:05 (seven years ago) link

better line up now or they might run out

qualx, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:28 (seven years ago) link

On sale Sunday night/early Monday morning.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:39 (seven years ago) link

we'll see if the robots at fandango agree with you Ned

El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:42 (seven years ago) link

xxxxxp mh how quickly we forget the tiny Vader sitting on the walker's dashboard as they approached the Hoth base.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 26 November 2016 06:24 (seven years ago) link

they're leaving the crawl out of rogue one so that they can perfect the technology to somehow make the crawl go even slower on the next one

Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 November 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link

I have never acknowledged tiny Vader and will not be starting at this point

mh 😏, Saturday, 26 November 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

I'd like to take this opportunity to say how great marvel's current darth vader comic book is

kthxbye

trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 26 November 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

Was.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 26 November 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

I have never acknowledged tiny Vader and will not be starting at this point

You'll eat your words when TINY VADER: A STAR WARS STORY hits theatres Dec 2021.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 26 November 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

love darth vader comic, want more comics with the original characters introduced in it

mh 😏, Saturday, 26 November 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

Good news for you then - Gillen-penned Doctor Aphra is coming next month.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 26 November 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

I think I knew that but keep forcing myself to forget as to recreate the joy of learning it anew

mh 😏, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

There's also Vader consulting with his three Star Destroyer commanders by hologram in Empire, during which one of them is destroyed by an asteroid, implying necessarily that he's appearing as a hologram at the other end.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Saturday, 26 November 2016 23:59 (seven years ago) link

inserted for movie continuity, totally not canon

mh 😏, Sunday, 27 November 2016 00:25 (seven years ago) link

fight me

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Sunday, 27 November 2016 01:53 (seven years ago) link

I just rewatched that, lols @ dead guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nZx5BFwPCI

El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 November 2016 02:06 (seven years ago) link

For real though I think Vader is only in this to make it clear that Mendelsohn's guy is a genuinely scary MF. You can't really have a villain between ROTS and ANH without calibrating them against Vader one way or another.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 November 2016 02:18 (seven years ago) link

I mentioned that I read the pre-Rogue One book, right? It's by the author who wrote the Tarkin novel in the new continuity so Tarkin plays a part, but it's part of a triangulation with Mendelsohn's character and the emperor's new order. I'd be mildly surprised if Tarkin isn't at least mentioned, but I could understand him being absent due to a need to avoid weird casting problems.

But yes, he is a ruthless social climber who sees the Imperial cause as his path to glory and doesn't give a shit about people, even the energy specialist he knew in his youth.

mh 😏, Sunday, 27 November 2016 03:34 (seven years ago) link

If the new in-canon extended universe has given us anything, it is that the Emperor is a total motherfucker who encouraged his underlings in their constant fraternal conflicts in the sith tradition to both harden their abilities and winnow out the weaker ones. Krennic (Mendelsohn's character) did not come up with the huge space weapon design but by the time this film rolls around he's forgotten that, and it's his project despite others wanting to co-opt it. Obviously it's not his after this movie!

mh 😏, Sunday, 27 November 2016 03:39 (seven years ago) link

Netflix heads-up: they're still streaming at least the first two "Ip Man" films, starring Donnie Yen

(rocketcat) (kingfish), Sunday, 27 November 2016 04:04 (seven years ago) link

On sale, and all.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 November 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link

lol fandango's email service is useless

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 November 2016 05:25 (seven years ago) link

Waiting in Alamo's virtual line. We'll see.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 November 2016 05:49 (seven years ago) link

Got mine. I don't think even Douglas Adams would have imagined a virtual queue being such an effective Turing test.

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 November 2016 05:57 (seven years ago) link

Hahah a fine comparison. Got mine as well -- was hoping for opening weekend but my preferred times weren't open for purchase so afternoon of the 22nd will have to do. (Already have the day off work to start my Christmas break so hey.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 November 2016 06:03 (seven years ago) link

Donnie Yen is my number one reason for wanting to see this. saying that, they totally wasted the guys from The Raid in force awakens

jamiesummerz, Monday, 28 November 2016 12:39 (seven years ago) link

I got Friday night at 7:30pm at one of the better theaters nearby (a Cinemark). I tried to get Thursday night but it was sold out within about 3 minutes.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Monday, 28 November 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link

People can't wait for twenty minutes in their climate-controlled homes for the Internet to sell them a ticket, but they'll stand outside in December for an hour to get a seat.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 02:44 (seven years ago) link

This is why we aren't doing anything substantial about climate change, isn't it.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 02:45 (seven years ago) link

Sorta

(rocketcat) (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

When I was in high school, the Return of the Jedi rerelease was opening and some people I knew were standing in line all day at the city's largest theater. The thing is, until I got there about an hour before showtime, there were only about 20 people in line and it was a 700 seat theater. I think we rolled by and yelled "neeeerds" at the dudes in Jedi robes

mh 😏, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 03:02 (seven years ago) link

Tom are you seeing it at Air & Space?

los blue jeans, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 05:40 (seven years ago) link

is any of the film in imax?

i would roll my eyes but lol my downtown silver spring theater is nearly as expensive as air and space

qualx, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 05:49 (seven years ago) link

i feel like my 5-y-o might not QUITE be up for this? on the other hand he watched han solo get knifed by his own son a year ago

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 07:42 (seven years ago) link

Even though director Gareth Edwards didn’t shoot Rogue One on IMAX cameras, and he didn’t shoot the movie on 70mm or 65 mm film like Christopher Nolan might have, he did shoot the movie on the Arri Alexa 65 camera, which is essentially a digital version of a 65mm camera. That means we’ll be getting quite the widescreen spectacle on IMAX screens, one that has a larger surface area of imagery that was captured by the camera and will be projected onto a massive screen for maximum visual potential.

Number None, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 08:10 (seven years ago) link

off-topic (but distantly related since Marvel and Lucasfilm are both Disney?) url but I thought this was good: http://screenrant.com/marvel-studios-movie-color-grading-mcu/

the Arri Alexa is the same camera Marvel's been using, but it's also the one used for Fury Road and Jupiter Ascending, both of which look excellent imo

I have no idea if there's any ongoing communication between Edwards and Rian Johnson, but Johnson and his DP, Steve Yedlin, definitely have a strong handle on what kind of processing digital requires.

But yeah, my post-processing obsession aside, there's no reason this sucker wouldn't look great in IMAX

mh 😏, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link

(seriously though, who the fuck at Marvel Studios came up with this completely flat color scheme)

mh 😏, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

Neat little vid, but my own aesthetic choices was always to max out the contrast and vividness with any photography I shot, from scanning in rock pics from my SLR 15 years ago to cat photos shot on my iPhone 7+.

(rocketcat) (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link

So I'm biased as fuck. But seriously, there's no reason the films can't look hyper-stylized to match the hyper-reality of the characters. Like this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cieEzdkuhoo/UiQkN2G9hxI/AAAAAAAARn8/Qgzf8Ev-a5k/s1600/tobattle.jpg

(rocketcat) (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

otm, I felt like the Dr. Strange visuals were good but the colors should have been wild

fwiw I guess Episode VIII is on film, probably some hangover from the Abrams decision to shoot that way

Rogue One looks amazing so far on digital, as far as I can tell by watching the trailers

mh 😏, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

I dunno - I like the way the MCU films look, especially compared to the DC stuff. Yeah, the color grading is more subtle, but it adds to the feeling of... maturity? that they all have. I don't know how good it would look to have all of the A-list actors that Marvel manages to get traipsing around some hyper-colored world.

schwantz, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

did you watch that video? imo there's a difference between subtle and "we didn't even tweak the color curve"

like at least come up with a good house style

mh 😏, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

Agree with that dude re Marvel's color grading. Really bothered me in Avengers Assemble and Winter Soldier especially.

nashwan, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

I watched the video. Pretty sure they're not just printing footage straight out of the camera! Maybe they were probably trying to match the Nolan Batman stuff?

schwantz, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link

but it adds to the feeling of... maturity? that they all have

But I think that's just an outgrowth of the assumption or the arbitrary culture-wide decision that only certain visuals are acceptable to communication certain themes. It's a cinematic equivalent of joyless dour austerity that doesn't connect with the joy that can be inherent in your genre. I figure it's a fixation on look and figuring the deeper bits will just come along naturally. Maturity seems more the result of how you handle or portrait emotions and decisions and choices, and those can be blown-out and oversaturated as possible, if you get the portrayal part right.

(rocketcat) (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link

I wonder how much --if any -- of their decision-making process for these movies is guided by looking forward to the home video market. Aren't there still TVs that can't reproduce pure black?

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

most televisions can't do pure black, unless you have an OLED screen, although the majority of newer ones do fine and it doesn't stop people from watching the majority of content which does have at least some pure black

the complaint is not that they did nothing, but that the color grading is pretty uniformly bland and lacks one specific thing (pure black) that'd help a lot even without tuning the rest of the color scale

fwiw there were a lot of complaints about the Snyder Superman movie having a horrible palette too, but that's kind of its own thing

the nolan films definitely had pure black values, but also were shot on film iirc

mh 😏, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

I'm going to drop this in here as well, admitting I'm guilty of talking about this in nearly every genre film thread now and I'll step back: https://storify.com/tvaziri/steve-yedlin

The gist of it is that film, depending on the type and usage, has a very specific color grade depending on what you use, and production tools are used to tweak that much more with digital processing but you retain that base color curve that some color scientist at kodak or wherever probably worked out over decades. Shooting on digital actually captures much more color data, giving you free reign to nondestructively adjust the palette in all kinds of ways (some of which are just a wise decision to emulate a film stock, realizing that the work's been done in another medium). So, given relatively endless possibilities... do something with it, even if it's a throwback kind of emulation!

Rogue One looks pretty awesome

mh 😏, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link


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