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Like for real, we dont need gallows humor coming from a position of extreme privilege, bile, and resentment of downtrodden folks trying to advocate for themselves.

Treeship, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link

Goes without saying that milo is infinitely worse than cohen but insofar as they are similar -- snobs trolling the hoi poloi (sp?) -- he sucks too

Treeship, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:31 (seven years ago) link

googling "tucker carlson adam schiff" basically makes it clear that rational discourse is completely dead

El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link

What has Cohen done wrong? I don't like some of the ways he pranked people but what has he done comparable to a booster of extremists?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:48 (seven years ago) link

like, I watched it, and it's quite clear that Tucker moves the goalposts and then throws a huge tantrum, and Schiff takes it calmly at first, and then points out that Tucker is no better than a Kremlin shill working for RT. Almost all the headlines in search results talk about how Tucker DESTROYED Schiff, which I guess is an accurate depiction for a particular type of person I have no interest in ever talking to, in any context.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link

xp. he's an upper class christ's college graduate whose comedy has mainly been based on making fun of poors, e.g. borat and bruno were about showing how bigoted and stupid american white poors are, the brothers grimsby is vile, prole-bashing crap.

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:51 (seven years ago) link

Noting rag xp, just wanted to go after the premises of flappy birds defense of this milo character

Treeship, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:52 (seven years ago) link

Yeah good summary jim. Not comparable to promoting fascism, but still morally abominable

Treeship, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

borat and bruno were about showing how bigoted and stupid american white poors are

Not poors - he was mocking Trump voters

Mordy, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:55 (seven years ago) link

But doing it through the medium of racist caricatures -- ali g and borat

Treeship, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:56 (seven years ago) link

Brothers Grimsby was just out and out horrible no matter how it was viewed.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:57 (seven years ago) link

oh good, ilx is piling on that fucking loathsome cunt baron cohen. continue

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 9 December 2016 00:00 (seven years ago) link

cultureless gurning cretin

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 9 December 2016 00:00 (seven years ago) link

nobody cares about sbc, jfc

El Tomboto, Friday, 9 December 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link

lol do I need to direct you to the Borat thread

ok maybe nobody cares about him ANYMORE but man at the time...

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 December 2016 00:06 (seven years ago) link

yeah for example

Dan were you previously unaware that fratboys are stupid or something

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:48 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Shakey were you aware that shut the fuck up

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Neanderthal, Friday, 9 December 2016 00:14 (seven years ago) link

Tbt yaaaaass

Treeship, Friday, 9 December 2016 00:14 (seven years ago) link

the thing is that there has been many attempts to control alt-right but everytime it was tried everything just went sideways.

^ 諷刺 (ken c), Friday, 9 December 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

to the right workspace, lol

control alt-delete much more useful

El Tomboto, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

read most of it, it seems like their feelings got hurt

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Saturday, 10 December 2016 03:36 (seven years ago) link

I guess that piece was meant to be a plea for sympathy? Except in actuality it succeeded in confirming, without requiring any prior knowledge of the man, that Sam Hyde is a megaturd.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 December 2016 03:48 (seven years ago) link

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gne.tf.game.android

El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 December 2016 04:10 (seven years ago) link

didn't get past the opening line of the dailycaller thing tbh

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 December 2016 04:17 (seven years ago) link

I watched some clips of this out of curiosity. It uses surrealist dystopian wonder showzen aesthetics to add zaniness to sketches that are just vehicles for MRA influenced "social commentary." Some racism thrown about for good measure as well.

Stupid.

Treeship, Saturday, 10 December 2016 04:33 (seven years ago) link

I was worried that it was just an irreverent show that had been misinterpreted but nope. Pure poison.

Treeship, Saturday, 10 December 2016 04:34 (seven years ago) link

The notion of a right-wing Wonder Showzen really creeps me out. I always admired that show's brazen far-left slant (even if some of the ways it manifested were pretty hard to watch)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 December 2016 04:44 (seven years ago) link

Is anyone who's seen this show familiar with Little Britain, an irritatingly popular sketch show in, er, britain a few years back? Just wondered how it compared, if at all

Houston John (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 10 December 2016 09:40 (seven years ago) link

Comments on that Daily Caller piece making a strong case that MDE fans aren't psychotic bigots.

Mordy, Saturday, 10 December 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link

Fuck this show is terrible and hateful - wish I never checked it out

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Saturday, 10 December 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

hey maybe Sam Hyde and his cadre of unfunny assholes should you now pull themselves up by their bootstraps and start their own channel. that is if they're not too busy ((()))-ifying everyone or pissing on the graves of dead children at Sandy Hook.

will, Saturday, 10 December 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

*you know

will, Saturday, 10 December 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link

I think the show had a lot of potential to be a conservative counterpoint on adult swim, but the obsession with gay people / them wearing drag is... hmm... lots of lazy racism, as well. I think the bit with the wine where the guy trips the other guy's wife is a brilliant take on gaslighting. the most compelling parts of MDE's work are the satire of leftist / neoliberal groupthink and mob mentality (I'm thinking specifically of the intro to one of their videos where it's a title card that reads "we went to one of the places in America where all the stupid people are and you're not supposed to go - texas!" with a sneering pic of Jon Stewart in the corner).

"Pure poison" is such a stretch. These guys are from suburban MA. Of course they're not going to understand BLM. Of course they're into nationalism. I don't think they're these cunning racist agents, they're just products of their environment... like the underlying tone of most of their YouTube videos (wburg fashion, wburg comedy nite, etc) is resentment and rage at the arrogance of "the beautiful people." That is a necessary counterpoint to our masturbatory pop culture. But if your audience is harassing and threatening people incessantly and you do very little to stop it, I have no sympathy. It's a shame, the show could've been good and I doubt anything like it will air on AS again anytime soon.

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

also, Hyde makes a good point in that piece - what is the difference between "Everyone Loves Kikes" (Eric Andre) and "Jews Rock" (MDE)?

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

absolutely baffling why there aren't more conservative counterpoint shows not riddled with racism, homophobia and misogyny

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

These guys are from suburban MA. Of course they're not going to understand BLM.

dude just think about this for a minute.

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

These guys are from suburban MA. Of course they're not going to understand BLM. Of course they're into nationalism. I don't think they're these cunning racist agents, they're just products of their environment.

jesus fucking christ at which point do you stop doing backflips to give straight white assholes a pass

El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

I'm from Alabama do I get to be a useless fuckwit and have a teevee show please

El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link

can only imagine how hard it must be in suburban Massachusetts cut off from all knowledge of what's been happening in the world for the last 200 fucking years

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link

A pass to what?

/These guys are from suburban MA. Of course they're not going to understand BLM./

dude just think about this for a minute.

dude, I did. I posted it. If you're only interfacing with white people all day, chances are you won't understand BLM if your only exposure to it is on CNN or Fox or Drudge or 4chan.

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

absolutely baffling why there aren't more conservative counterpoint shows not riddled with racism, homophobia and misogyny

― Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, December 10, 2016 6:07 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude I'm gonna give you a taste of your own medicine in a second

banfred bann (wins), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

cant believe flappy bird made a terrible stupid post

banfred bann (wins), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

Per sacrosancta humanae reparationis mysteria remittat tibi omnipotens Deus omnes praesentis et futurae vitae paenas, Paradisi portas aperiat, et ad gaudia sempiterna perducat.

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

Not excusing it. It's human nature. Seems like people have a really hard time sympathizing with groups of people they never see. Just an observation. I live in a predominantly black city, BLM is necessary and obvious to me, and I've seen how ppl in white suburban enclaves don't get it at all ("why are they destroying their own neighborhood?").

How does this relate to MDE??? Well I think their racism is easily explained, lazy, and of no value. Doesn't really make a difference if it's conscious or not.

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

what is high-value racism

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

Everyone Loves Kikes?

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

Personally I don't know any African Americans, that must explain why I hate BLM so much.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

Woof, I know this doesn't go for everybody. But I've seen it in relatives and people I know. Fuck me, I didn't mean to wake up and get on the pike for MDE, I just think calling them "pure poison" is a lil out there.

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

The show wasn't even that good, it was often diluted Tim & Eric / Wonder Showzen bs absurdity. But it was occasionally great (tripping the wife gaslighting bit). Sorry for getting sidetracked

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

yeah come on guys, they're 80 proof, 90 proof poison at most. it's probably not as bad for you as drinking bleach!

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link


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