will noisey have moved forward, done the work and fought like fuck?

beats me

you do realise this was written by a sometime ilxor who wasn't working at vice years ago when it was what you accuse it of

― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:42 Bookmark

wight dorke i knew it

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actually i dont know if the person im thinking of wrote it, i just saw that person share it

who works for noisey obviously

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lol wight dorke

more like

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/hellraiser/images/4/4a/960.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160204075810

It wasnt him, i dont know him

waht's a "warmbody" tone

― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:47 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just like the platitudinous zombified cut-and-dry voice of takes far and wide. like, Vice tone is indistinguishable from salon, huffpo, slate to me now. for all the awful things about 00's-Vice (the ironic racism--at least among hipsters--seems thoroughly out of style but the unironic racism of McInnes seems a throughline to alt-right in hindsight) the writing had a distinct voice. maybe it was ripped off from 90s zines or whatever but it was strongly associated with Vice and the foundation of the brand

on the 'paying workers slave wages' front, they've recently unionized, so, maybe something will happen with that

on the 'paying workers slave wages' front, they've recently unionized, so, maybe something will happen with that

This means the staff gets decent salaries, and benefits; their freelance rates are at the low end of average. Each of the 3 stories I've written for them has paid $125. Bandcamp pays 3x that.

surely the fighting like fuck makes up for it?

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/inside-the-sad-world-of-racist-online-dating

this is good content to fight fascism

the ironic racism--at least among hipsters--seems thoroughly out of style but the unironic racism of McInnes seems a throughline to alt-right in hindsight)

I mean, this was obvious at the time.

Xp "it's hard out there for a racist" hmmm

haven't music publications been mining social justice for capitalism for a long time? Isn't that part of the Rolling Stone story?

― sarahell, Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:39 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

beats me

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:41 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol yeah I was going to say, Rolling Stone really hit its stride by providing political commentary of a sort that wasn't widespread AT THE SAME TIME they were pronouncing god status on rock dudes who were fucking fourteen year olds

Much like what Pulp Fiction did with John Travolta in the early 90s, 2016 has thrust white nationalism back to the forefront of our collective psyche, forcing our society to—again, much like Travolta—stare continuously into its insane, twinkling, dead eyes.

thinking aout what lex was saying on the other thread about Vice (well, Noisey) being performatively woke while not actually paying writers well enough to make writing for them worthwhile, but this is more an argument of how you get what you pay for

Lol I wasn't specifically referring to noisey, though perhaps it also applies

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/welcome-to-the-guide-to-life

smh "start a podcast"

Do You Have Something To Say? Make a Game

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v0RdU1A7jiQ/maxresdefault.jpg

An actually useful guide to life would tell people not to bother doing any of these things

We'll continue publishing explainers on the things you need as you figure out how to live as your best self in this new era.

can i get an over/under on the chances of them publishing an explainer on how to get involved in local politics?

not that 'throwing a diy rave' won't shake entrenched power structures to their very core in and of itself but still

it's on waypoint, their games vertical, what are they supposed to run

like, a few days ago people were calling out pitchfork for running political content that has nothing to do with music, and now here's a games site called out for running content about games

i feel like if you make a huge self-important statement about 'fighting like fuck' and then the best you can do to follow up is dribble out some tepid garbage about starting a band then you deserve to be clowned relentlessly from sea to shining sea

http://i.imgur.com/KKOpPgZ.png

watch this next

compare & contrast

We're going to fight like fuck to use our platform here at Noisey to oppose everything Donald Trump and his administration represent. We're going to fight like fuck—because that's all we can do.

Unity is used by everyone from individuals to professional studios that make "AAA indies" like Firewatch and Gone Home. You can make basically any kind of game with Unity, and sure, it can look a little intimidating at first.

But the tutorials and community support are excellent.

the waypoint one is particularly egregious because it's literally a dull-as-dishwater guide to getting started on the basics of game-making topped and tailed with some boilerplate vague nonsense about telling your story in a world which is 'burning now', 'politically speaking'

not that 'throwing a diy rave' won't shake entrenched power structures to their very core in and of itself but still

― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, January 23, 2017 5:06 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if you aren't into that you can go for craft beer and the 100 indie rock song playlist

When starting a band, it's necessary to ask two important questions:

Why?
Specifically, why a band?

These questions are not jokes.

i know something right now that is a joke, it's a real knee-slapper

What all those immigrants about to be deported should really do is learn how to make an indie video game

repression quest

i feel like if you make a huge self-important statement about 'fighting like fuck' and then the best you can do to follow up is dribble out some tepid garbage about starting a band then you deserve to be clowned relentlessly from sea to shining sea

― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, January 23, 2017 2:16 PM (three hours ago)

claiming the moral high ground via posting on a message board.

I did not know how to start band and I do now and it has been much more useful than my previous efforts

Let's make a game about starting a band!

claiming the moral high ground via posting on a message board.

claiming the moral high ground via replying to a post on a message board

repeat ad nauseam

except that nobody is making similar claims about posting to ilx afaict

I only make those claims to people IRL, FWIW

"Fight like fuck white supremacy and the deprivation of medical care for millions of Americans by creating a Spotify playlist of your favourite liquid neurofunk jams #resistance"

i think it's natural/honest for publications to reflect the conflicted/half-arsed/quasi-engaged approach to politics that the majority of their readers/ppl have, demanding consistency is nonsense

pretty cool of them to post an interview with uber-woke intersectional activist Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/at-the-end-of-the-world-with-nikki-sixx

At one point I ask Nikki Sixx what he would do if he had to live a completely different life. "My ultimate goal is to be a homeless street artist," Sixx says sarcastically as he gets out of the car. Before I can ask what he means, he gets pulled away, and disappears.

tbf he probably meant something very profound about fighting like fuck

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/how-an-editor-allegedly-used-vice-canada-to-recruit-drug-mules-for-a-global-smuggling-ring

I guess "fire that fuck" is a reasonable variation

fight like fuck with an interview wholly concerned with promoting a Vice TV show about two "prankster" musicians whose sole contribution to anything appears to be calling themselves Nirvanna the Band and existing as flotsam in the Toronto music scene.

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/a-look-inside-nirvana-the-band-the-show-the-new-show-not-about-nirvana

Local hero. What makes Dan Burke Dan Burke?
Matt: Well, he's willing to fight for what's right, literally.

Jay: I also think there isn't a single young starting-up band in Toronto that doesn't cross paths with Dan Burke.

Matt: Dan Burke has been doing it for so long, that he's just, like cut, like he's like a leather piece of...

Jared: Toronto music.

Matt: He is! There's no bullshit with him. There's a video of it online, but the story is one time a band wouldn't leave the stage. They had gone over their allotted time, and the next band was starting to set up, but the other band wouldn't stop playing, and so Dan Burke punched one of the guys and then they started a huge fight. You can see this video on YouTube. Search up"Dan Burke fight." And then the bass player from the band breaks his bass over Dan Burke's head. You just think, "Jesus, Burke, you're a..." Anyway, he, he's not fucking around.

viva la resistance!

i searched up 'dan burke fight' and the first result was some mma match and the second was that vice article

#fightlikefuckfail

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/this-dating-app-helps-people-find-love-based-on-their-mutual-hatred-of-things-vgtrn

i wonder if one of the first topics available to match on will be "white ppl"

nearly everyone who gets paid to do anything is paid by at least a few dicks

sometimes also some vaginas

don't forget the assholes

one assumes the assholes are always there

i get paid by puppies

(and I mean actual dogs u pervs)

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had some prepositional confusion there -- wondering the exchange rate of dicks to dollars vs dollars to donuts

don't GIS "dicks to donuts"

worst Harry Potter spell

"eat a dick" now a confusing insult

feel like this is going to be a landslide, polls are ignoring shy dave cool voters

Was at a vice party on a boat once in the 00s and there was like a roulette table or something, and I just remember seeing a vice exec nonchalantly peeling off bills from a scrooge-mcduck wad of 100s the size of a grapefruit. I've spent the last 12 years wondering if it was real or movie prop money or what.

every day since then i've moved forward, done the work, and fought like fuck to figure it out

oh place your dicks to donuts
and pray

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

this is like Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler

i do not remember what poll option i chose 4 years ago

What all those immigrants about to be deported should really do is learn how to make an indie video game

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, January 23, 2017 5:44 PM bookmarkflaglink

repression quest

― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, January 23, 2017 5:45 PM bookmarkflaglink

no

Breaking News: Vice, the brash digital-media disrupter that has struggled to find a buyer, is preparing to file for bankruptcy, according to two people. https://t.co/Ydz7ofzIpy

— The New York Times (@nytimes) May 1, 2023

lol i had forgotten the poll closed 4 years ago and saw this thread bumped and thought, "oh, did the poll finally close? what were the results?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc7_1GAYNOw

it’s funny how the narrative used to be evil vice paving DBA and putting up a cynical corporate newsroom and now it’s about how this plucky independent media outlet is getting destroyed by corporate behemoths. perhaps the truth … is somewhere in between ….