Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

Looks like the story overhaul was pretty big: http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-missing-trailer-footage/#disqus_thread

overly gloomy

I feel you may have different expectations of this film than many of us.

the Cushing puppetry ensures I never see this, what a ghoulish, horrible idea

he's in a whopping ten minutes of the film

p whopping for a dead guy.

i assume his children signed off on that, so i'd like to pitch a movie where he haunts them to death.

if it was really so minor they should have just recast like they apparently did with a buncha other characters

xp Joyce Broughton, his former secretary who oversees his estate - he died without issue.

I didn't find anything ghoulish about it at all, tbh - he was a fairly recognizable guy, and it wasn't a hologram projection using actual footage of him or anything, it was CGI created in his likeness, obv his voice wasn't used Forrest Gump-style or anything. are we going to get equally upset the next time a dead person turns up as a playable character on a video game too?

they could have avoided it, sure, but as stated upthread, it was equal parts "hey we can do this! wow" and also preserving a villain whose likeness was unique. They could have gone the Bela Lugosi in Plan 9 route, or cast a diff actor with a bit of awkward exposition ("I did that think you asked, Grand Moff Tarkin"), they didn't.

I do get the uncanny valley critiques though - for me, it didn't take me out of the movie.

Funny you should mention him...

As for the deceased, California has led the way in protecting the right to control how an actor’s image is used after his or her death. The legislature passed a law in 1984 establishing the postmortem right of publicity and timing them out 50 years after the individual’s death. The law was a response to a court ruling finding that Bela Lugosi’s heirs had no power to prevent the use of his image in Dracula merchandise. At the urging of the Screen Actors Guild, the legislature has since extended the right to 70 years.

Some actor in Cushing makeup played Tarkin for a few seconds in Revenge of the Sith.

xxxpost they didn't recast several characters! they even brought back the original players for the Gold and Red Leaders, who they used CGI de-aging on, and even the guy who played Wedge Antilles for a vocal cameo.

I mean I guess if you want to argue Mon Mothma isn't the same actress from Jedi, but it's the same one from ROTS.

I mean ok David Prowse wasn't Vader (physically) but it isn't like you can see the guy underneath the outfit.

unless you were a big General Dodonna fan

Some actor in Cushing makeup played Tarkin for a few seconds in Revenge of the Sith.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, December 18, 2016 10:20 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Forgot about that!

in this case there was a physical actor who looked similar to Tarkin that did the physical movement and they used CGI and digitally altered archive footage of Cushing to create the likeness, when another actor (Steven Stanton, who portrayed him in Clone Wars) did the voice. and apparently the Cushing family was very involved in the process, according to Kathleen Kennedy.

Lol

(Xpost)

i didn't find vader's "ambitions" comment to be a groaner.

the actual line was "choke on your aspirations", which perhaps made people groan due to the double-pun.

they put Laurence Olivier into that Sky Captain movie, right?

Morbs...who cares? We get it.

Did anyone answer my question about how or if Fisher and Cushing were credited in their roles? We were busy looking for a lost hat.

Was hoping for a "Zatoichi, the Blind Jedi" spin-off. Oh well.

many. Cushings. died. to bring us this role

and all I got was this shitty t-shirt

More Cushing for the Pushing.

GOVERNOR TARKIN -- Guy Henry
...with Special Thanks to Peter Cushing

PRINCESS LEIA -- Ingvild Deila
... with Special Thanks to Carrie Fisher

Ah! Thanks.

I feel you may have different expectations of this film than many of us.

If I do then it's my fault for watching the trailers.

I was completely bowled over by this. My wife and son (12) didn't appreciate it as much, based on the idea that "we already knew they were going to succeed in getting them the plans so it took away from the suspense." I think they are both garbage at watching movies.

For me the only part where it kinda plodded for me was the final act. It was a glorious battle and everything, but it seemed to go on and on.

the final act was the only good bit

even the guy who played Wedge Antilles for a vocal cameo.

I don't think Wedge was in this at all. We do see Capt Antilles, tho

i heard there were some inserted audio/video clips from ANH during the dogfights but didn't notice them myself

how's life lol

Xpost supposedly it was only his voice on the speakers during the fight sequence. I didn't hear it myself but am going by what i read afterwards.

Saw this today. I liked it but prefer TFA because it had stronger characters and better drama. Compared to Rey and friends, Jyn was a bit of a non-entity.

The final battle sequence more than made up for a slow first half. I was impressed at how well they juggled all the different moving pieces. Felt more consequential than the TFA space battle scenes, which seemed like an afterthought.

Definitely. The thing that kept me in during that long battle is that there was a lot that was actually going on.

Ahhh I loved this so much also holy fuck they killed everyone :D

Jimmy Smits as Leia's Dad was fucking BOSS casting.

Mr Veg said final battle & ragtag rebel crew reminded him of Where Eagles Dare, which was kinda otm. Def had that all or nothing feel.

Imperial architects/builders need a fucking talking to. that fucking communications tower setup jfc
"So the archive is a remote controlled setup like dave & busters claw game inside the tower. you transmit at the very top of the tower *outside* . and you control the angle of the satellite dish by walking out onto a gangplank to another control panel. Cool? Cool."

Jimmy Smits as Leia's Dad was fucking BOSS casting.

you know he was in the prequels right

forgive me if my memory of those boring garbagefires is faulty

Ben Mendelsohn was excellent btw ... I've been crazy in love with him since he was in The Henderson Kids way back in '85

I think that gang plank antenna switch was a bullshit filler thing the screenwriters stuck in there because they wanted a scene where Jyn is away from the transmit switch for Kennick to confront her, and couldn't figure out how to do it.

Similarly, the multiple repeated switches and mini-objectives bugged me as some incremental video game-plotting. "First hit this beach switch to tell them we're going to transmit THEN drag this cable back THEN plug it in and hit a comm switch THEN plug in the tapes THEN hit another transmit switch oops your shit is misaligned? Somehow? so THEN make your way out to another switch THEN return to the transmit switch"

I mean, if you wanna do a heavy step-by-step focused heist like you're in a process film, go right ahead, but I don't think it works in the midst of a protracted massive land/sea/air battle sequence.

On a related note, one of the credited screenwriters is an ex-games journo.

idk i wasn't mad at it, just laughing more as an in-universe thing like how pissed off you would be if you actualky worked there

Ben Mendelsohn was excellent btw ... I've been crazy in love with him since he was in The Henderson Kids way back in '85

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl)

WHAT

it's a tv show

Nah, if you actually worked there you'd be like "Being a dish controller is an important job. They should definitely not put the dish controls next to the transmission controls and have just one guy do both, because you need to be focused, and it's really hard to tell exactly where the dish is pointing if you're standing directly underneath it. My work is important and I am valued by my community."

lol

Veg, I thought you meant he was in the movie. I was wondering how I'd missed him.

he was! He was Krennic!

Wait a minute, I've been calling him Krandall!

Krennic

Krampus

the vibe seems to be that for 'character' TFA was king but for 'action' this was better and i concur.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-12-18/the-unseen-star-wars-archive-footage-used-in-rogue-one

Edwards & crew found some un-scanned film cans at ILM while wandering about the archives, decided to incorporate them.