Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

Ah! Thanks.

I feel you may have different expectations of this film than many of us.

If I do then it's my fault for watching the trailers.

I was completely bowled over by this. My wife and son (12) didn't appreciate it as much, based on the idea that "we already knew they were going to succeed in getting them the plans so it took away from the suspense." I think they are both garbage at watching movies.

For me the only part where it kinda plodded for me was the final act. It was a glorious battle and everything, but it seemed to go on and on.

the final act was the only good bit

even the guy who played Wedge Antilles for a vocal cameo.

I don't think Wedge was in this at all. We do see Capt Antilles, tho

i heard there were some inserted audio/video clips from ANH during the dogfights but didn't notice them myself

how's life lol

Xpost supposedly it was only his voice on the speakers during the fight sequence. I didn't hear it myself but am going by what i read afterwards.

Saw this today. I liked it but prefer TFA because it had stronger characters and better drama. Compared to Rey and friends, Jyn was a bit of a non-entity.

The final battle sequence more than made up for a slow first half. I was impressed at how well they juggled all the different moving pieces. Felt more consequential than the TFA space battle scenes, which seemed like an afterthought.

Definitely. The thing that kept me in during that long battle is that there was a lot that was actually going on.

Ahhh I loved this so much also holy fuck they killed everyone :D

Jimmy Smits as Leia's Dad was fucking BOSS casting.

Mr Veg said final battle & ragtag rebel crew reminded him of Where Eagles Dare, which was kinda otm. Def had that all or nothing feel.

Imperial architects/builders need a fucking talking to. that fucking communications tower setup jfc
"So the archive is a remote controlled setup like dave & busters claw game inside the tower. you transmit at the very top of the tower *outside* . and you control the angle of the satellite dish by walking out onto a gangplank to another control panel. Cool? Cool."

Jimmy Smits as Leia's Dad was fucking BOSS casting.

you know he was in the prequels right

forgive me if my memory of those boring garbagefires is faulty

Ben Mendelsohn was excellent btw ... I've been crazy in love with him since he was in The Henderson Kids way back in '85

I think that gang plank antenna switch was a bullshit filler thing the screenwriters stuck in there because they wanted a scene where Jyn is away from the transmit switch for Kennick to confront her, and couldn't figure out how to do it.

Similarly, the multiple repeated switches and mini-objectives bugged me as some incremental video game-plotting. "First hit this beach switch to tell them we're going to transmit THEN drag this cable back THEN plug it in and hit a comm switch THEN plug in the tapes THEN hit another transmit switch oops your shit is misaligned? Somehow? so THEN make your way out to another switch THEN return to the transmit switch"

I mean, if you wanna do a heavy step-by-step focused heist like you're in a process film, go right ahead, but I don't think it works in the midst of a protracted massive land/sea/air battle sequence.

On a related note, one of the credited screenwriters is an ex-games journo.

idk i wasn't mad at it, just laughing more as an in-universe thing like how pissed off you would be if you actualky worked there

Ben Mendelsohn was excellent btw ... I've been crazy in love with him since he was in The Henderson Kids way back in '85

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl)

WHAT

it's a tv show

Nah, if you actually worked there you'd be like "Being a dish controller is an important job. They should definitely not put the dish controls next to the transmission controls and have just one guy do both, because you need to be focused, and it's really hard to tell exactly where the dish is pointing if you're standing directly underneath it. My work is important and I am valued by my community."

lol

Veg, I thought you meant he was in the movie. I was wondering how I'd missed him.

he was! He was Krennic!

Wait a minute, I've been calling him Krandall!

Krennic

Krampus

the vibe seems to be that for 'character' TFA was king but for 'action' this was better and i concur.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-12-18/the-unseen-star-wars-archive-footage-used-in-rogue-one

Edwards & crew found some un-scanned film cans at ILM while wandering about the archives, decided to incorporate them.

wonder why Jyn's 'it's a rebellion.. i rebel' line was nixed in the end?! this may be the most memorable bit of dialogue ever cut from a film after the release of the trailer.

Chuck D threatened to sue

Some informed speculation on the missing footage here
http://screenrant.com/star-wars-rogue-one-reshoots-changes/

this is great

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-12-18/11-of-the-best-star-wars-easter-eggs-in-rogue-one

that line was terrible and i'm glad it was cut

jyn's character seems to have been reworked heavily in the reshoots/edits

yeah that screen rant piece looks good, trailer 1 is made *almost entirely* of unused footage supposedly.

wow they actually inserted unused ANH footage for those pilots? couldn't tell at all

v cool

I recognized the actors, but just thought they re-scanned actual footage from the film, not unused stuff. Like with the cut scenes that got released on the blu rays, I'm obsessed with seeing original unreleashed film, having viewed these movies over and over again for decades growing up.

Also, is one of the differences between Rebel & Imperial visual is Rebel guys have facial hair, and Imperials(almost always) do not? (They all have big sideburns, tho)

This stood out to me seeing the promo shot of clearly unshaven Diego Luna in officer's uniform. Youda thunk he was gunna get bitched-out for that by some superior, same way Indy does in the submarine pen scene in Raiders.

hah, i had a similar thought when I saw Luna in the uniform during the film... doesn't anyone notice he's like the only officer with a 5 o'clock shadow?

ha yeah me too re the re-scanned footage, just assumed it was pre-shot Cushing footage because you know They Can Do Anything These Days.

Do you think when George Lucas saw this and a couple characters were referred to as "guardians of the whills" that he shit his pants

Yeah, and "Kyber Crystals" tossed around

and "the senate"

hey buddy this version of the senate is the one that gets dissolved in the 1977 film, none of that actual democratic stuff

<3

https://youtu.be/3HRiRy-gooo

here is the cast acting like goofballs with your buddy Ben doing good Star Wars nerd work

Why does Darth Vader live in Mordor?

Castle sold for cheap after Sauron bailed

ok that was p fun

<3 u Ben

Vader's base being on the planet where his worst enemy, that traitor Kenobi, diced him up for bbq

Well to be fair cultivating and drawing upon feelings of anger and revenge are part of what the Sith do, so Vader building a castle near the site where he suffered the defeat that made him who he is makes a kind of sense

Also it just looks cool

http://m.ign.com/articles/2016/12/17/rogue-one-whatas-the-deal-with-darth-vaderas-castle