at least we can all acknowledge the "game theory" dude was shockingly bad though
― mh 😏, Monday, 19 December 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
I'm now hearing this meme that says that that dude is shockingly bad etc. Guys. It's time for some game theory.
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link
One thing I kind of hate about twitter is that the rare times I've gotten a lot of RT's/likes it's usually because I did a really good job of thinking in meta terms about what kinds of tweets people think are funny, whereas the tweets I actually thought were funniest or most original don't seem to go anywhere. Maybe that's what any kind of public/performative joke medium is like.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link
my fav chapo ep was probably just them talking about the insane experience of adam sandler's 9/11 movie. if they start taking themselves too seriously as "public intellectuals" or something it'll get boring real fast :-/
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/805575826326614016
i loved this when it happened btw
― 龜, Monday, 19 December 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link
putting matt mcgrory on that list is shooting fish in a barrel
i cuoldn't make it any further im sorry
― 龜, Monday, 19 December 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link
feel like the bad tweeters are really victims of their bad followers
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link
hello FBI i woul dlike to report somebody made a bad tweet
― 龜, Monday, 19 December 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link
if they start taking themselves too seriously as "public intellectuals" or something it'll get boring real fast
They do mention this on the recent show following up the Adam Curtis interview that they decided just to yak with each other and talk about "Swordfish"
The Reign Over Me ep was fun.
I also really enjoyed the recent premium ep with jacob bacharach, mainly because it was mainly him & Matt seriously talking about what kinda things lead to conspiracizing(which I'm into), and less from Will & Felix throwing in jokes.
They keep declaring themselves more a comedy show that gets into politics than the opposite, but I think there'd be real value in a show foregrounding the deeper theory & reading that Matt(& Amber, to a lesser extent) bring. And "Dune" jokes.
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link
they need to work on being good at talking
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link
That helps too. They finally got better mics.
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link
I was going to make the point that anyone could sit there and clown dumb shit like the movie "Swordfish" for an hour, then realized I know people who genuinely could not, then wondered what is wrong with me that I could just spew garbage about a garbage movie
― mh 😏, Monday, 19 December 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link
The last Caleb Jacoby episode was extremely funny though
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link
― 龜, Monday, December 19, 2016 3:46 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
A+
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 19 December 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link
why did all these bad tweet people decide to have grey avis btw, is it some sort of "serious person" thing
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 19 December 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link
there was that week where ppl were saying you were a coward if your real face wasn't in your profile
all these ppl are either too serious or look really bad in color images
― mh 😏, Monday, 19 December 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link
i had to un-follow all 3 chapo guys because of relentless pod promotion clogging my feed, but i trust the good tweets still get RT'd into the TL. i definitely miss pre-chapo matt and felix. also unfollowed amber recently, who's writing i actually liked a lot
personally i like the milquetoast liberal pundits they harass a lot more than Intercept/GG or Jacobin writers that they side with and have on the show, even if the clowning is often funny. but a lot of the stuff that's like 'here are two plausibly hypocritical headlines by Kevin Drum if you switch Trump and Bernie' can get a bit rmde to me
― flopson, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
idk who even writes for jacobin now but sometimes i will roll my eyes so hard they fall out of my head and fall on a bio indicating the tweet was from one of their writers
― mh 😏, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link
yeah ppl like amber or sam kriss i could never follow - i just read their feeds when im the mood for extremely grad student blog thought. idk maybe i like twitter cuz i barely follow anyone but rather just binge on ppls feed when im bored/in the mood for their style of content. this does work less well for dudes like @bloodhail or @g0m who are really funny in small doses but quickly become wearying but the best of that stuff always gets lots of RTs so w/e
― ( ^_^) (Lamp), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
saw some screencap of the thing Sam Kriss wrote this week about Game Theory and it was hilariously bad
― flopson, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link
i avoided listening to it for a while because it's fucking called chapo trap house, but eventually the hype got to me. i listened to the gop convention episode back in july and it was...okay i guess? Maybe i'm missing something everyone else is hearing, but it was kind of funny and kind of insightful, but also didn't seem like anything extraordinary. Like their twitter feeds it had a lot of lowbrow mocking of specific journalists, which, idk, is fun sometimes but also kind of dumb.
Glad to hear they got new mics though, i couldn't believe i was listening to a 150MB file that sounded like it was recorded through a tin can
― intheblanks, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link
i like their early lo-fi stuff
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
It would be a weird and subtle schtick to be like "I only like the podcast Felix was in BEFORE Chapo" because Scumbag actually kind of sucks.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
I really like their Twitters but it's hard to get me to listen to a podcast
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link
Like their twitter feeds it had a lot of lowbrow mocking of specific journalists
i was wondering who wuold step up to replace gawker
― 龜, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link
hey, approaching my first potential 50-like tweet now, salud
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link
my favorite trapo stuff is when they rag on douthat or like talk about turkey or whatever
owning libs is starting to feel a little bit facile now that trump has won and the hilary backing pundits are sunk in some collective madness
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link
funny how they own libs but not 'servatives
http://i.imgur.com/EJZ37aV.jpg
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link
um, that is not true
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link
wrong its true
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link
the adam curtis interview is the best thing they've done but upon listening a second time i realized it's 98% adam curtis talking. but props to them for not feeling the need to make their presence felt as more than prompts for curtis.
― ryan, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link
I would listen to chapo trap house if I knew what a chapo or a trap house was
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
chapo is a mexican drug lord, a trap house is a house where drugs are sold
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link
xp Menaker was a good interviewer for Curtis because he knows, gets and loves Curtis's work but also seems like not a big ego guy so didn't step on things. I think of him as the sort of responsible adult of Chapo that holds the thing together and moves it along and wants it to be a "real podcast."
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link
he was called the dad of the podcast in that new yorker piece iirc which is otm
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
― flopson, Monday, December 19, 2016 10:24 PM (thirty-six minutes ago)
the kriss article actually managed to be even worse than the awful game theory twitter thing he was attacking.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 19 December 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link
I'm not a big fan of Kriss from what I've read
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link
I liked Kriss' article
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 19 December 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link
i liked kriss' piece on the failures of the clinton campaign but havent read his thing abt the game theory guy. i like when he makes philosophy posts that show how bad he is at philosophy, i always imagine the face his adviser makes when shes reading his papers
― ( ^_^) (Lamp), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 23:05 (yesterday) Permalink
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 19 December 2016 23:13 (yesterday) Permalink
the part quoted in this tweet is all of the article or (to my knowledge) Sam Kriss
https://twitter.com/profmusgrave/status/810199810057838593
― flopson, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link
ehm,
the part quoted in this tweet is all of the article or (to my knowledge) Sam Kriss THAT I HAVE READ
lots of unutterably dumb nonsense in that paragraph, who is Sam Kriss again? What is all this discourse
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:52 (seven years ago) link
TMD
― flopson, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link
(Too Much Discourse)
;-)
― flopson, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link
ppl going wild for the discourse
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link
haha jeet heer doing a tweet storm on the newfound controversiality of tweet storms, never change bud
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:42 (seven years ago) link
(he's right tho obv)
hes right if you think a self own and being right are the same thing
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:46 (seven years ago) link
i think my full explanation of why he's right would not be popular on this board so i'm just gonna keep it to myself, but suffice it to say attacking form rather than substance is pretty lazy and unserious
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link
Jeet Heer @HeerJeet 43m43 minutes ago1. So, twitter essays.
I thought he was going to stop after this first tweet and it would be quite a funny joke, but maybe him continuing to do an actual twitter storm is in fact a funnier joke
― soref, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:52 (seven years ago) link