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if they start taking themselves too seriously as "public intellectuals" or something it'll get boring real fast

They do mention this on the recent show following up the Adam Curtis interview that they decided just to yak with each other and talk about "Swordfish"

The Reign Over Me ep was fun.

I also really enjoyed the recent premium ep with jacob bacharach, mainly because it was mainly him & Matt seriously talking about what kinda things lead to conspiracizing(which I'm into), and less from Will & Felix throwing in jokes.

They keep declaring themselves more a comedy show that gets into politics than the opposite, but I think there'd be real value in a show foregrounding the deeper theory & reading that Matt(& Amber, to a lesser extent) bring. And "Dune" jokes.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

they need to work on being good at talking

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

That helps too. They finally got better mics.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

I was going to make the point that anyone could sit there and clown dumb shit like the movie "Swordfish" for an hour, then realized I know people who genuinely could not, then wondered what is wrong with me that I could just spew garbage about a garbage movie

mh 😏, Monday, 19 December 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

The last Caleb Jacoby episode was extremely funny though

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

hello FBI i woul dlike to report somebody made a bad tweet

― 龜, Monday, December 19, 2016 3:46 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A+

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 19 December 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

why did all these bad tweet people decide to have grey avis btw, is it some sort of "serious person" thing

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 19 December 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

there was that week where ppl were saying you were a coward if your real face wasn't in your profile

all these ppl are either too serious or look really bad in color images

mh 😏, Monday, 19 December 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

i had to un-follow all 3 chapo guys because of relentless pod promotion clogging my feed, but i trust the good tweets still get RT'd into the TL. i definitely miss pre-chapo matt and felix. also unfollowed amber recently, who's writing i actually liked a lot

personally i like the milquetoast liberal pundits they harass a lot more than Intercept/GG or Jacobin writers that they side with and have on the show, even if the clowning is often funny. but a lot of the stuff that's like 'here are two plausibly hypocritical headlines by Kevin Drum if you switch Trump and Bernie' can get a bit rmde to me

flopson, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

idk who even writes for jacobin now but sometimes i will roll my eyes so hard they fall out of my head and fall on a bio indicating the tweet was from one of their writers

mh 😏, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

yeah ppl like amber or sam kriss i could never follow - i just read their feeds when im the mood for extremely grad student blog thought. idk maybe i like twitter cuz i barely follow anyone but rather just binge on ppls feed when im bored/in the mood for their style of content. this does work less well for dudes like @bloodhail or @g0m who are really funny in small doses but quickly become wearying but the best of that stuff always gets lots of RTs so w/e

( ^_^) (Lamp), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link

saw some screencap of the thing Sam Kriss wrote this week about Game Theory and it was hilariously bad

flopson, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

i avoided listening to it for a while because it's fucking called chapo trap house, but eventually the hype got to me. i listened to the gop convention episode back in july and it was...okay i guess? Maybe i'm missing something everyone else is hearing, but it was kind of funny and kind of insightful, but also didn't seem like anything extraordinary. Like their twitter feeds it had a lot of lowbrow mocking of specific journalists, which, idk, is fun sometimes but also kind of dumb.

Glad to hear they got new mics though, i couldn't believe i was listening to a 150MB file that sounded like it was recorded through a tin can

intheblanks, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

i like their early lo-fi stuff

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link

It would be a weird and subtle schtick to be like "I only like the podcast Felix was in BEFORE Chapo" because Scumbag actually kind of sucks.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link

I really like their Twitters but it's hard to get me to listen to a podcast

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link

Like their twitter feeds it had a lot of lowbrow mocking of specific journalists

i was wondering who wuold step up to replace gawker

, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link

hey, approaching my first potential 50-like tweet now, salud

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link

my favorite trapo stuff is when they rag on douthat or like talk about turkey or whatever

owning libs is starting to feel a little bit facile now that trump has won and the hilary backing pundits are sunk in some collective madness

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link

funny how they own libs but not 'servatives

http://i.imgur.com/EJZ37aV.jpg

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link

um, that is not true

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

wrong its true

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link

the adam curtis interview is the best thing they've done but upon listening a second time i realized it's 98% adam curtis talking. but props to them for not feeling the need to make their presence felt as more than prompts for curtis.

ryan, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

I would listen to chapo trap house if I knew what a chapo or a trap house was

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

chapo is a mexican drug lord, a trap house is a house where drugs are sold

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link

xp Menaker was a good interviewer for Curtis because he knows, gets and loves Curtis's work but also seems like not a big ego guy so didn't step on things. I think of him as the sort of responsible adult of Chapo that holds the thing together and moves it along and wants it to be a "real podcast."

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

he was called the dad of the podcast in that new yorker piece iirc which is otm

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

saw some screencap of the thing Sam Kriss wrote this week about Game Theory and it was hilariously bad

― flopson, Monday, December 19, 2016 10:24 PM (thirty-six minutes ago)

the kriss article actually managed to be even worse than the awful game theory twitter thing he was attacking.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 19 December 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link

I'm not a big fan of Kriss from what I've read

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link

I liked Kriss' article

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 19 December 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link

i liked kriss' piece on the failures of the clinton campaign but havent read his thing abt the game theory guy. i like when he makes philosophy posts that show how bad he is at philosophy, i always imagine the face his adviser makes when shes reading his papers

( ^_^) (Lamp), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link

I'm not a big fan of Kriss from what I've read

― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 23:05 (yesterday) Permalink

I liked Kriss' article

― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 19 December 2016 23:13 (yesterday) Permalink

the part quoted in this tweet is all of the article or (to my knowledge) Sam Kriss

https://twitter.com/profmusgrave/status/810199810057838593

flopson, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link

ehm,

the part quoted in this tweet is all of the article or (to my knowledge) Sam Kriss THAT I HAVE READ

flopson, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link

lots of unutterably dumb nonsense in that paragraph, who is Sam Kriss again? What is all this discourse

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:52 (seven years ago) link

TMD

flopson, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

(Too Much Discourse)

;-)

flopson, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link

ppl going wild for the discourse

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link

haha jeet heer doing a tweet storm on the newfound controversiality of tweet storms, never change bud

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:42 (seven years ago) link

(he's right tho obv)

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:42 (seven years ago) link

hes right if you think a self own and being right are the same thing

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:46 (seven years ago) link

i think my full explanation of why he's right would not be popular on this board so i'm just gonna keep it to myself, but suffice it to say attacking form rather than substance is pretty lazy and unserious

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 43m43 minutes ago
1. So, twitter essays.

I thought he was going to stop after this first tweet and it would be quite a funny joke, but maybe him continuing to do an actual twitter storm is in fact a funnier joke

soref, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:52 (seven years ago) link

read yr blogs

mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:53 (seven years ago) link

attacking the form is good, do not legitimize the form, which is annoying

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:55 (seven years ago) link

hes right if you think a self own and being right are the same thing

― lag∞n, Monday, December 19, 2016 8:46 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

listen for some people this is their entire brand

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:58 (seven years ago) link

why wld we want to be serious about tweetstorms, we arent aspiring to be weird buffoons

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 04:00 (seven years ago) link

if ur a successful tweetstormer this is a perfect opportunity to not feed the trolls and just carry on with yr life of tweestorming, its basic game theory

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 04:02 (seven years ago) link

tweetstorms dont really even bother me like theyre for sure pretty lame but defending tweetstorms is just such obvs bad manners idk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 04:04 (seven years ago) link

u cn defend them on here its okay but not on twitter dont clutter up the feed

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link

tweetstorms can be fine even if they are often terrible just don't go announcing you are going to start one like "OK, ready everyone? Tweetstorm on x, starting now! Here goes!!!"

also the word "tweetstorm" is bad

marcos, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 04:09 (seven years ago) link


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