Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

Gotta say, I didn't really expect this, but I'm not surprised, if you will:

Colin Goudie: I’d worked with Gareth Edwards previously. I cut his movie ‘Monsters’ so we’d already got a relationship and I’d actually done a couple of projects with him before that as well. So he got me on board in September of 2014 and asked me to do a story reel for ‘Rogue One’.

There was no screenplay, there was just a story breakdown at that point, scene by scene. He got me to rip hundreds of movies and basically make ‘Rogue One’ using other films so that they could work out how much dialogue they actually needed in the film.

It’s very simple to have a line (in the script) that reads “Krennic’s shuttle descends to the planet”, now that takes maybe 2-3 minutes in other films, but if you look at any other ‘Star Wars’ film you realise that only takes 45 seconds or a minute of screen time. So by making the whole film that way – I used a lot of the ‘Star Wars’ films – but also hundreds of other films too, it gave us a good idea of the timing.

For example the sequence of them breaking into the vault I was ripping the big door closing in ‘Wargames’ to work out how long does a vault door take to close.

So that’s what I did and that was three months work to do that and that had captions at the bottom which explained the action that was going to be taking place, and two thirds of the screen was filled with the concept art that had already been done and one quarter, the bottom corner, was the little movie clip to give you how long that scene would actually take.

Then I used dialogue from other movies to give you a sense of how long it would take in other films for someone to be interrogated. So for instance, when Jyn gets interrogated at the beginning of the film by the Rebel council, I used the scene where Ripley gets interrogated in ‘Aliens’.

So you get an idea of what movies usually do.

man, Luna and Ahmed's characters must have been serious non-entities in the original cut

Wow that mockup process. Jesus. So not only do they temp track the whole film score these days, they temp track the film itself!

Yeah, wow, how typical is that? It sounds like such an insane way to begin making a movie.

Most highly processed snack foods begin existence in a huge vat, as a slurry, which is then extruded into the desired shape and subjected to a brief, mechanized heating process before being parceled into packages and crated up for delivery across the sales region.

Lucas temped the Death Star attack in ANH with footage from The Dam Busters and other movies, right?

He did.

I'll take well-crafted pastiche if an artist lacks a unique vision and genuine inspiration. This shit's a multigenerational franchise, so I don't really demand high art.

This is sorta expanding Lucas' method for making animatics for ANH, where he cut together footage from WW2 movies and guncams to put in place of finished efx shots.

Looks this stuff up, I found a new tidbit:

While you might be familiar with the big Corellian ships piloted by the likes of Han Solo, did you know about the Karelian Isthmus, a lake-dotted stretch of land in Northwest Russia where the Finns and Soviets fought the Winter War during the earliest days of the World War II? Or did you know that during the war, making a “kessel” run would have referred to German pilots trying to supply troops encircled by the Soviet army after the battle of Stalingrad? Kessel, or “cauldron” in German, was the term used to describe any such encirclement.

http://www.starwars.com/news/from-world-war-to-star-wars-the-millennium-falcon

Xp

I can't believe I hadn't figured it out before (mainly because I guess I was looking at different common threads between Monsters and Godzilla) but having a giant, massive thing smash into another giant, massive thing is one of Gareth Edwards' calling cards

so this was really good apart from not using the music and the creepy digital faces

Clearly unintentional given the production schedule but this felt like a very strong anti-Trump call to arms to me. But then pretty much everything feels like that to me these days.
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gosh stop

from the face he makes, I half expected Krennic to shout "I'm not even supposed to BE HERE TODAY" when he sees the Death Star emerge from orbit on Skarif.

alright guys i finally watched this. the whole thing! lol everyone was right to rag on me for that, i hate when people do that.

it was good, most of the rebels were pretty interesting, the main villain kinda forgettable, the OT pandering well i went over that before i saw the full film and i stand by all of it. they re-created the Death Star firing sequence from the original film TWICE.

Vader's castle was a letdown. i was hoping for something looking more like a castle. the medieval influence seems to be waning in the series.

there was no main villain tbf

The villain was free trade

Movie wd be a lot stronger if Krennic had just been allowed to be the villain, with maybe ONE scene where he's interacting with Tarkin's back or Vader over a transmission, scared shitless in a ''the Emperor is coming here?!'' kind of way. I mean there's something potENTially interesting abt a villain whose motive is feeling like higher-ups are stealing all the credit for his work (perhaps some scriptwriter's fist to the sky) but it doesn't really work in this movie or lock in thematically with anything else that's happening. Maybe, to differentiate the Empire from the Rebels (and to highlight Le Chiffre's and Endo's choices), he should have been like, all about following orders and seeing the thing through, the glory to be found in discipline and rules... so he's like the ''dark side'' of the rebels who follow orders (that come from good intentions) or of the monks with their own disciplines. Or SOMEthing. Instead he starts off so sinister and interesting and by the end just seems petulant and hapless. You could write a great movie around that transition, but they didn't.

Main villain was Master Switch iirc.

ha

xxp It's actually interesting in this light to have read the Catalyst novel in which Krennic gaslights Galen Erso into doing research for the Death Star laser for years under the auspices of "energy research."

the scooby doo crossover when he pulls that mask off is a corker

I was honestly surprised and disappointed to learn that Krennic, Erso, Saw, and perhaps others are all characters from the novels and shit. My one super geek franchise buddy, who loved Rogue One, was dismissing a lot of my story/character concerns with, like, ''well but it was awesome because it tied into this thing from this book'' and I was like ''but none of that is in this movie'' and he was like ''well none of the alien names from the original trilogy were in the movies either'' and I just sorta let it go because I love the guy. But he's seen it four or five times and clearly it's bringing him joy so who am I to judge?

Saw was the only existing one. The others were from a single book that was written after the movie was in production as a tie-in. They're movie characters that got a pre-movie novel.

fwiw the book was very much just tying a bullet list of characters backstory points the movie writers had, with some some emotional plot beats woven in and a couple minor characters thrown in the mix as glue

huh okay well that's a little more normal then.

still seems weird though that for some swath of the audience, Saw showing up on screen or even being mentioned is probably some like OH SHIT moment, while for the majority he's just some weird guy whose significance is deeply unclear.

for a moment i was afraid they were setting up some kind of general grievous connection, what with all the wheezing and the robot parts, but thankfully jimmy smits was enough in the way of garbage tie-ins between this prequel and The Prequels.

tbh outside of a couple random mentions, Saw Gerrera was in like two or three episodes of a half hour cartoon four years ago.

I think the character is returning in the newer cartoon this week, since the Rebels cartoon takes place within a couple years of the Rogue One movie.

He very much is returning and they're not shy about saying it.

shh I'm trying to pretend I don't spend hours every day absorbing Star Wars information

Apparently someone else kind of important is coming to Rebels sometime this season.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--J83nenZF--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/qhyysq7l0u7wfzwayjhi.jpg

lol we should keep that ridiculousness on this thread
Star Wars, Clone Wars, Rebels, Oh My

Saw (along with quite a bit of Rebels stuff I believe) was originally conceived for the shelved live-action series

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Underworld

which they'd apparently written 50 episodes of before it was canned

I have no idea if that would have been any good

There was a video game in development that was canned that looked great in promos and there's a rumor they're giving the property to another studio?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSnKgbDpV4Y

Did those 50 scripts ever leak?

yeah eminem comes across as a p misunderstood guy in some treatments

8 Parsec

I've created a Sith lord, ‘cause nobody wants to
See Annie no more, they want Vader, I'm chopped liver
Well, if you want Vader, this is what I'll give ya
A roomful of younglings killed with my light saber
Some bacta that'll jump start my heart quicker
Than the shock when I get all my limbs whittled
By my master when I'm not co-operating
Then I'm strapped to a table and I'm aspirating (Noooooooo!)

RIP Star Wars Anthology Shit Talk thread

sorry for turning thraed into force ghost my dudes

hahahaha no way that, that was great, especially "when i get all my limbs whittled"

that was amazing

weird ol lunchkovic

okay lol

a small suggestion: first line could potentially change to "I'm cremated on Mustafar" but that might not scan so well and it's great as is

The best strategy is to redirect me when I act out but thank u nonetheless.

what thread did we ruin with diss verses a few years ago i reckon thats a worthy reboot

You literally spent like what 15 minutes on that? And it's great!! So much better than those Rap Battle videos that I can't even look up on youtube right now because I'm at work, but they keep having Vader battle Hitler and it's so bad.

You should pitch to them and write all their battles imo.