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any one have problems w/ whole albums failing to sync to your iphone from itunes? i selected some albums to sync w/ my phone in itunes and only a few tracks made it, and i get this "show complete album" crap that doesn't work at all when i tap it

marcos, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link

i did some searching online but fuck apple forums are awful and everything i read made my head hurt

marcos, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:28 (seven years ago) link

Haha, completely off topic but somewhat related - I somehow resurrected an iPod 2G from the dead. I had to restore it to update it from iOS 2.2 to 4.2, but I can still play the old version of Drop7 at least.

My point was you think the mac forums are bad, you ought to go on there and search out how to restore and update an iPod 2G in the year 2017 CE.

pplains, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link

man those old ipods were awesome imo

marcos, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link

heck yeah drop7

mh 😏, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link

i had a 3rd gen ipod nano that was one of the best portable music devices ive owned

marcos, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:38 (seven years ago) link

ipod classic (5.5 and later models) basically unsurpassed for me. Feel fortunate to have a final generation one in very good condition (and a second-to-last generation one with some bad sectors on its drive that I hope to get modded with 512 GB SD memory at some point.)

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link

syncing music to an iphone is the shittiest nightmare, I will never try to use one as a music player again. It's like they are punishing you for wanting to do so.

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:43 (seven years ago) link

The grayed out selections which can never be fully synced successfully but whose spectral forms can never be deleted from the library either

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

i have an ipod classic still, one w/ an absurd amount of storage, but the battery sucks so it basically has to just sit w/ a charger in it all the time

marcos, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link

OSX is probably bad and outdate dnow but otoh i can't think of anything else i use my mac for other than web browsing

龜, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link

If for some reason the 2013-ish MacBook Pro I have at home stops working someday (and I think it'll keep working for a while) I'd probably do something outlandish like buy a compact desktop and put FreeBSD on it. The main thing I've been using my Mac for lately is doing crossword puzzles with Black Ink.

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link

syncing music to an iphone is the shittiest nightmare, I will never try to use one as a music player again. It's like they are punishing you for wanting to do so.

I've not tried but won't be doing given the hassle I'm having trying to get photos off the iPhone

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link

'we will make your experience using a corded connection so stupid and unpleasant you'll never go corded again'

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:38 (seven years ago) link

xp yea i've barely even delved into photos (i don't take a lot of photos w/ my phone) but my wife has and it seems like a nightmare. the switch from iPhoto (which was shitty) to Photos after we upgraded to capitan was rough to deal with. also even like the simple act of copy and paste is changed now to "duplicate"?

marcos, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link

Don't know how you're syncing your music, marcos, but I solved all of my problems with that by giving up on drag and drop manual management, creating an "iPhone" playlist where I put everything I want on the phone, and setting the iPhone to sync that playlist. No issues at all since I started doing it that way. I used to get the partial album thing all the time with manual management.

early rejecter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link

yea that's probably a better way of doing it. i was manually managing it, checking off boxes next to individual albums, which was tedious enough.

marcos, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link

creating an "iPhone" playlist where I put everything I want on the phone, and setting the iPhone to sync that playlist

^^^ only way to fly

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link

I also no longer drag and drop, which gave me all those problems, but set the iPhone to synch whichever playlists I want.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

I admit with shame that I add music to iTunes on my laptop and then utilize iTunes Match to download it to my phone a couple minutes later

mh 😏, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link

this is the worst possible world, but sadly it is also the best possible world

mh 😏, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link

creating an "iPhone" playlist where I put everything I want on the phone, and setting the iPhone to sync that playlist

this is what i do but albums that i purchased from itunes not on the playlist still show up on my phone, even though i can't play them.

mizzell, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link

mizzell, there's a setting you can use to turn that off. forget what it's called and am no longer on iphone, sorry.

0 / 0 (lukas), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/hmDZ6hH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qENiRWc.jpg

^ I mean, just look at that YouTube icon.

pplains, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 17:59 (seven years ago) link

I have one of these around somewhere

mh 😏, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link

Dude looks like J0hn D's angry twin brother xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link

lol that is pplains

mh 😏, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

Haha omg PP <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link

Got a NAS to use as a home media server and pulled my iTunes library that I hadn't touched in 3 years off a backup drive, holy shit they've managed to make iTunes worse in the intervening years.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link

I'll go and finally update iTunes as punishment for my gaffe

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link

More like Capt. John D's twin.

pplains, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

^ there's a dn!

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link

albums that i purchased from itunes not on the playlist still show up on my phone, even though i can't play them.

As far as I can tell there's no tidy way to hide them in iOS 10. What you can do though is go to the main Music screen (where it says "Library" in huge type) where it lists Playlists, Artists, Albums, etc. and select "Downloaded Music." If you don't have that option, click "Edit" to the right of "Library" and add "Downloaded Music" as a selection. Once you select that, you'll get the same interface but it'll only show stuff that is actually on your phone. Unfortunately you'll still have to select "Downloaded Music" every time you go to the Music app, but if you have a lot of iTunes purchases cluttering it up it might be worth the extra step.

early rejecter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

i only ~depend~ on unix, but the polish of the macOS ui is appealing. it's starting to be not appealing enough. bugs being introduced and going unfixed, performance deteriorating, being stuck on a hardware line that is a laughing stock. but gruber makes a good point here...

The truth is, for most of us, there is no good alternative to MacOS. Nothing. And it took so long β€” not years but decades β€” for MacOS to get to where it is that I don’t think any other OS could ever catch up. That’s what’s driving the arguably paranoid fear that Apple is abandoning the Mac. It’s not so much the evidence (lack of updates to Mac Pro and Mac Mini, and concerns about software quality) as the high stakes: if the Mac goes away, the world will be left without a Mac-quality desktop OS.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link

time to run linux mode in windows 10 aww yeah

(lol)

mh 😏, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 19:15 (seven years ago) link

The new Win 10 UI looks like Sierra should have
https://mspoweruser.com/project-neon-windows-10-first-look/

stet, Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link

hate to say it but yes

Nhex, Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link

it looks like a website

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:10 (seven years ago) link

https://cdn-mspoweruser.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/neon-2.png

this is an insane amount of white space for a desktop UI

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:10 (seven years ago) link

It looks good! I have some minor skepticism about how coherent the experience is when you end up with applications outside of the new frameworks leading to a handful of GUI paradigms butting heads and whether some of the concepts are fully baked as far as having functionality available, but I'd give it a try.

I kind of want to check out Elementary OS after reading some of those blog posts from a couple days ago. Has anyone used that as their desktop? It looks like it has a lot of design and development decisions I'd agree with, or at least some compromises that make sense. A lot of what's going on really looks like paring the user interface down to what works while using a standard toolchain and standards across the board.

Mac OS has had this incremental "throw things in, if they aren't liked they disappear two releases later" approach that's piecemeal as opposed to the Windows "everyone's using this touch-centric interface with tiles" thing that they backed off from but they're getting to a happy medium

mh 😏, Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link

caek otm on spacing though, lol

it reminds me of the first time I opened the default iOS mail app on the large iPad Pro when that came out. A sidebar on one side and the email text way on the other, with all the whitespace in the world between

mh 😏, Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:19 (seven years ago) link

new win10 UI looks cool but in reality it'll just be haphazardly shoehorned in and then we'll have three different UI paradigms on windows that don't really work together

just another (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link

Can it be worse than Brushed Metal/Aqua/Classic was in 10.4?

stet, Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:38 (seven years ago) link

never forget rich corinthian leather

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:38 (seven years ago) link

we don't talk about 10.4

mh 😏, Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link

this is good imo http://www.sicpers.info/2017/01/the-problem-with-not-apple/

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link

hahaha oh god

re: elementaryOS, i'm rooting for them hard but at this point i'm not ready to commit myself to such a young desktop environment that may not exist in a year. their apps are certainly beautiful and i want to use them, but at some point it takes the one-way-to-do-it minimalism of gnome3 to the extreme, which i would not like. for example, iirc their terminal doesn't have tabs (which i want) and i'd be willing to bet FOR SURE that it doesn't support truncating the scrollback (which i need in a terminal).

just another (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link

xp good link. That NeXTSTEP-y consistency is a really big thing for me too. Fuck Swift/JS/etc anyway imo

stet, Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link

Bummed that Apple is discontinuing wifi routers, allegedly a response to Google entering the wifi market. Does anyone have any experience with mesh routers in general, or the Google Wifi mesh system specifically? Do we have a dedicated Google thread that is not about the search engine but the company and its other services/products?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link

they get at what appealed to me when I read about Elementary -- that there's a single preferred programming language (Vala, which I hadn't heard of, and is really an intermediary but w/e) and it's apparently a first-class citizen in the desktop environment

there are always cross-domain inconsistencies in that the way you program a device driver and the way you program a GUI application are different by necessity. now, you can skip the rest of this as tl;dr but...

Are Dashboard widgets made out of JavaScript because of a compromise, or an aborted change of direction?

Dashboard widgets were meant as something non-programmers could put together and were an adoption of an idea that was done by a couple other small projects that screamed when Apple introduced their own version. iirc Dashboard widgets are mostly if not completely dead now (unless the slide-from-the-right widgets are the new dashboard). Ideally for consistency these, if they existed on a dashboard, would now be in Swift.

Is the lack of consistency between the same API’s names for things in Swift and in Objective-C a cognitive overload that’s worth carrying around?
Not sure what a good example is here, but some things will have slightly different naming scheme to accommodate language paradigms. Pretty sure Apple has two different teams and some of the naming is just wrong.

Do I ignore the funky dialect of C++ that drivers are written in (I have written IOKit drivers and edited a book on the technology, so this isn’t a hypothetical concern)? While some ObjC APIs use message-sending and others use block callbacks, am I right to call them both the same thing? Does this process communicate with that process using XPC, Mach IPC, UNIX pipes, sockets, signals, or distributed notifications?

funky dialects for drivers, idk. I have no inclination to address that realm definitively because I lack the expertise. terminology is messy, but there's still a divide between providing multiple approaches that work better across different situations and providing new solutions while supporting old ones. programming is far from a mature discipline and use cases keep varying

as for inter-process communication, who the hell knows. if you're writing a GUI desktop standalone you're not going to use UNIX pipes, but there are muddy areas. I'm mostly fine with some ambiguity because some of these things fit in different layers and you're going to have native approaches for different layers

mh 😏, Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link


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