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francis fukuyama demos the new zelda instead of miyamoto

Philip Nunez, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link

hmm that seems bad

lag∞n, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link

some anti-marxist thing tbrr

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 January 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link

in Fukuyama's version it means everybody just agrees video games are as good as they're ever going to be, shuts the fuck up about it and plays endless iterations of CoD for the rest of forever

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 January 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link

imo that'd be selling and creating consoles games and that don't see the march of hardware capabilities and the increasing budgets of AAA titles as inevitable

have a library of all the popular games of past generations available on the new consoles, whether via backward compatibility or the ability to download new copies of existing titles you owned on old consoles. if people want to create technically uncomplicated side-scrollers reminiscent of mario or classic mega man, encourage them. the opening up of consoles to have online markets that are similar to steam has led to a bunch of games that are retro-seeming but also very innovative

mh 😏, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link

don't know what Nintendo's role in that could be tho unless there's room for some kind of Super Mario World of Warfare

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 January 2017 18:35 (seven years ago) link

filthy bleeding mario staring into distance "squishing mushroom men is hell"

lag∞n, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

rerelease original super mario kart with cleaned up graphics and internet play, no reason not to

mh 😏, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:40 (seven years ago) link

i'm okay with the lower specs in the same way that i'm like, okay with not having a 4K tv... feel like current or even last gen tech is good enough. does anybody else share this view? thanks :o)

, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link

yeah basically, the gap between this console gen and the previous has never felt justified in terms of advancing tech, and the fidelity of TV images is probably exceeding the capacity of human eyes to process that shit anyway

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 January 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link

and STOP TRYING TO MAKE VR HAPPEN FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 January 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link

ha they will never stop

lag∞n, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:43 (seven years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/cjG159h.jpg

, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

vr is gonna be extremely cool in 20 years

ciderpress, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

yeah I've played it and definitely got the feeling that I'd be way into it if I was 13 and not 30, though my brain would probably completely melt from playing it so much

probably gonna be awesome in 5 years given how much money's poured into it. whether or not it has any staying power is yet to be seen a guess. right now it's just a neat party trick.

frogbs, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link

i figure it'll be time to buy a VR machine when there's a must play game for it. afaict all the hype is about the technology - i haven't heard of a single platform exclusive game being hyped.

Mordy, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:58 (seven years ago) link

probably gonna be awesome in 5 years given how much money's poured into it.

think people have been saying this about 3D movies since at least 1950

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 January 2017 18:58 (seven years ago) link

plus lots of video games involve you getting jumped by vicious monsters and the current level of realness of that is plenty for me thx

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 January 2017 19:00 (seven years ago) link

i'm not sure that a video game will be the first must-have VR app

ciderpress, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link

what do u think it will be

lag∞n, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link

^ xp otm. i'm not convinced we've figured out the best use of this tech yet

just another (diamonddave85), Friday, 13 January 2017 19:15 (seven years ago) link

in my industry ppl talk about using it to do remote repairs + shit

Mordy, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link

im not about to stumble blindly through my living room swinging my hands around, so why does that seem to be like the UX that all these vr games have?

just another (diamonddave85), Friday, 13 January 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link

Drunkey Kong

Philip Nunez, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link

ya its funny the vr ppl assume ppl want to actually move around, seem p obvs to me that if it ever succeeds players will still be sitting on their couches holding controllers

lag∞n, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link

...with their doors locked

lag∞n, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link

my idea for the VR hackathon at work was to create a fake "calibration" app whose purpose was to make the user look as ridiculous as possible to onlookers by having them do stupid shit to "calibrate" the headset. no one wanted to work on that with me

just another (diamonddave85), Friday, 13 January 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:20 (seven years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/iBrpj61.jpg

, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:20 (seven years ago) link

yeah my brother got one of these and it was like 5 minutes of setting up 'boundaries' and what not, the whole duck n' weave aspect is neat but I don't see how video games + exercise is gonna beat plain ol' video games

plus I'm pretty sure people are gonna get seriously injured thanks to these things. someone's gonna hit a well and fall awkwardly since they have no semblance of where they are. or step on a child or a dog or something. god forbid.

does seem like there would be some cool applications in arcade-style settings though. already hearing talk of roller coasters using these which seems absolutely terrifying, but also great. that said I also have been hearing about VR conventions where everyone ends up with pink eye, so lol

frogbs, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link

have a library of all the popular games of past generations available on the new consoles, whether via backward compatibility or the ability to download new copies of existing titles you owned on old consoles. if people want to create technically uncomplicated side-scrollers reminiscent of mario or classic mega man, encourage them. the opening up of consoles to have online markets that are similar to steam has led to a bunch of games that are retro-seeming but also very innovative

― mh 😏, Friday, January 13, 2017 10:34 AM (forty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is approx what I had in mind, have a library in perpetuity, sell console hardware that maintains the same architecture and hardware features Forever, charge people $X to play online, every 1p Nintendo game that doesn't require special hardware available forever on one platform, make their money off Amiibo margins, don't play the Console Generation game against Xbox and Playstation

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Friday, 13 January 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link

slightly torn on Switch but leaning no, or waiting until the holiday season.
as said above Mario and Zelda look great but do I want to pay $300+60+60 for 2 games
not to mention the accessories/extra controllers you need (def would get a Pro controller, another $70-80)
and Scorpio comes out in the winter. never got an XB1 so that's tempting (plus backwards compat on that one i think?)

yeah basically, the gap between this console gen and the previous has never felt justified in terms of advancing tech, and the fidelity of TV images is probably exceeding the capacity of human eyes to process that shit anyway
no way. playing PC games again reminded me how much better things can always get, and we're not even at max fidelity smooth 60 FPS / 1080p play on consoles, yet let alone 4K. ppl can definitely still be blown away by visuals, but the endless armyman shooty FPS/sports games that are used to demo these things lack the creativity
DoA

― self-clowning cozen of ILX (cozen), Friday, January 13, 2017 8:58 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


also many xps but lol cozen popping up for this

Nhex, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link

I think the killer app for VR is concerts/sporting events.

DJI, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link

"Blown away by visuals" is at best orthogonal to "enjoying playing this game", though.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:37 (seven years ago) link

the mario preview just makes me think of sonic adventure

ciderpress, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:39 (seven years ago) link

hahaha as soon I read that the song from SA2 started up in my head

GOTTA FOLLOW THAT RAINBOW!!!

frogbs, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link

shit man that was like 16 years ago, the last time I really cared about video games

frogbs, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/williefitz/status/819788898180087814

ciderpress, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link

lol

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 January 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link

Was trying to think about what the hardware team is doing now. Normally I'd assume they devote time to finishing up the next DS thing, but then I realized they just did that.

So what's the next Nintendo portable: a little all-in-one Switch with better battery life?

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Friday, 13 January 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link

oh i'm sure, especially as components get cheaper they'll keep making new ones. hell DS/3DS got how many different versions? felt like one almost every year

Nhex, Friday, 13 January 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link

They just sort of made the new portable, is my point. The product lines have converged.

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Friday, 13 January 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohfFmccsVpGkoIwZq/giphy.gif

this looks sick.

if they aren't making games for a separate portable console then that is good news! it would double the software available on Nintendo machines! all those remasters and cool things like Zelda a Link Between Worlds that came out on 3ds can now be produced for this HD console/portable hybrid.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 14 January 2017 03:57 (seven years ago) link

are they really gonna kill the 3DS? i thought that was successful

Nhex, Saturday, 14 January 2017 04:01 (seven years ago) link

now i can't stop thinking about combining the game mechanics of mario 64 and tony hawk's pro skater

ciderpress, Saturday, 14 January 2017 04:01 (seven years ago) link

3DS is super successful. it did come out 6 years ago tho!

i wonder how far they will go with the tablet functionality. it uses the same kind of touch screen as iPhone, so maybe you will be able to play your iPhone games and apps over your Switch? is Apple close at all with Sony or Microsoft? lol wait forget i asked about Microsoft.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 14 January 2017 04:15 (seven years ago) link

Switch uses a capacitive touchscreen - like a modern phone, allowing for gliding motions and light touch - whereas the Wii U had a resistive, pressure-sensitive touchscreen, requiring the use of a stylus. this is a good sign.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 14 January 2017 04:19 (seven years ago) link

this system will always be the Nintendo NX to me

Karl Malone, Saturday, 14 January 2017 04:23 (seven years ago) link

I didn't say kill the goddamn 3DS you infuriating morons

I just meant if you're the chief of new hardware design at Nintendo, are you working on a new handheld cartridge-based console right now? Not likely, you just made one!

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Saturday, 14 January 2017 04:25 (seven years ago) link

Karl Malone
Posted: January 13, 2017 at 9:23:31 PM
this system will always be the Nintendo NX to me

the bookmark

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 January 2017 04:29 (seven years ago) link


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