Amazon Kindle (ebook thingy)

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http://www.economist.com/news/essays/21623373-which-something-old-and-powerful-encountered-vault

from a few years back, didn't see it upthread - basically on the disruption of ~teh book~ by ~teh ebook~, w/ lots of industry observations

j., Monday, 16 January 2017 22:36 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

There is a new version of Kindle for pc that it automatically updates to on a purchase and turns the AZW files into a format that calibre doesn't recognise. I solved it by downloading the older 1.17 version here:https://s3.amazonaws.com/kindleforpc/44170/KindleForPC-installer-1.17.44170.exe and deleting the AZW file and getting amazon to re-send it. It might just be a temp solution if they stop supporting 1.17 though.

calzino, Friday, 28 April 2017 11:32 (seven years ago) link

(that reminds me, MacBook at work and new laptop at home means I don't have a working Kindle for PC setup. Might be the end of the Kindle daily deals for me)

(Um, does wine work?)

koogs, Friday, 28 April 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link

Am I the only dummy who pays for e-books

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 28 April 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link

I pay. Path of least resistance.

Jeff, Friday, 28 April 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link

same

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 28 April 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link

i pay when forced to

j., Friday, 28 April 2017 20:00 (seven years ago) link

Not to mention the. . . ethical thing?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 28 April 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

My post was about breaking the DRM on an e-book I have bought, people. Although I will admit to many crimes, but I can't always afford to buy stuff. Actually fuck ethics.

calzino, Friday, 28 April 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link

I can't always afford to buy stuff but i draw the line at stealing to get it. When it comes to copyrighted books. Office supplies? Guilty. Also a feed tube pusher for a cuisinart but that's another story.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 28 April 2017 20:39 (seven years ago) link

congrats

calzino, Friday, 28 April 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

my children have to read

j., Saturday, 29 April 2017 02:30 (seven years ago) link

For me the drm removal thing is for getting *bought* Kindle books into a format I can use on non-kindle devices, there's no stealing or distribution going on here.

My reading is probably 50/50 things bought in Amazon sales and public domain Victorian novels from Gutenberg.

koogs, Saturday, 29 April 2017 05:00 (seven years ago) link

The very same reason myself, when I buy an e-book I think it is totally unreasonable for it to be tethered to one device/format.

calzino, Saturday, 29 April 2017 08:58 (seven years ago) link

There's so much pre-1922 and other public domain/creative commons licence stuff out there, that I haven't found need to buy more than 3-4 Kindle books. Generally, I prefer the cheap used hardback for non-travel books.

behavioral sink (Sanpaku), Sunday, 30 April 2017 00:44 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, i always break the DRM on stuff i buy, so can read on ipad without amazon monitoring/monetising my reading, and so can keep book if amazon deletes or changes it. Had to do the same thing as calzino and get an old version of the kindle software. You need go tell it to not check for updates, too, otherwise it keeps updating itself to the new calibre-frustrating version.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 30 April 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Anyone else can't watch certain youtube videos on their kindle? It's been like this for months and I fucking hate it, none of the directions to fix it seem to work.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 21 May 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

"Also a feed tube pusher for a cuisinart but that's another story."

yes but I think this is a story that needs to be told so we can understand the depths of your criminal malice

akm, Sunday, 21 May 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

I pay for some e-books but I'm honestly using it mostly to read shit that is out of print or otherwise unavailable (like loads of dr who target novelizations etc; I'm not going to go pay $400 for Lungbarrow on the second hand market). most of them are formatted pretty shittily.

akm, Sunday, 21 May 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

Man, Lungburrow shouldn't be read at any price

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 21 May 2017 23:55 (six years ago) link

I read it a couple of months ago (via OCR on Kindle) and it's kinda fun. Approximately 100x better than Cat's Cradle.

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Monday, 22 May 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

the vonnegut book? are you insane?

Also, a question: why in the world doesn't amazon make digital versions free when you buy a hardcopy?

akm, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link

Books with multiple translations are a fucking nightmare to buy on the Kindle store - they just get listed together as different versions so the cheapest that pops up first is some badly formatted public domain shit.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

translations editions of any kind are a fucking nightmare to buy on the Kindle store - they just get listed together as different versions so the cheapest that pops up first is some badly formatted public domain shit.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

p. true of any kind of book with a complicated publication history, kindle or no - amazon's catalog management is really garbage for such a ~cutting edge~ company

j., Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

It isn't right that you get free mp3 downloads with physical music purchases and these rapacious fucks are charging twice for a book.

xxp otm, Cat's Cradle is classic.

calzino, Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

why in the world doesn't amazon make digital versions free when you buy a hardcopy?

This. Been driving me nuts. I still fetishize paper copies and like to have certain books on a shelf, ready to be rediscovered - and yet I do most of my reading on a kindle in the dark so as not to wake up my wife. Why can't I have both

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 26 June 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

Re: why not physical + digital packages for books, this link is from Reddit, but has a lot of enlightening input from people who work for publishers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/1xtpee/why_dont_publishers_include_a_free_digital_copy/#bottom-comments

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 26 June 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

I usually, er, "source" a MOBI file online if I've bought a book and send it to my phone and Kindle. (It's easier to get away with reading at work that way.) (Also I can use my Kindle version to carry on reading in the dark when my partner's asleep.)

It's obvs v. difficult to source stuff if it's not popular lit, though.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 26 June 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link

http://bookos-z1.org/?signAll=1

this is an excellent dd source for back-up mobis/epubs etc

calzino, Monday, 26 June 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

I usually end up buying a digital copy if it's a favorite book and I know I'll read it more than a couple times... it's not like I haven't bought a lot of my favorite albums four or five times. Of course this is usually after I've read a pirated digital copy and established the publisher didn't do a shitty OCR job and include jpegs of the book illustrations that are like 3MB each.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 26 June 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

is there any reason not to upgrade windows calibre to v. 3.3?

j., Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

just started running, for some reason (since i just got it), 2.85.1.

j., Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

I might be behind the times here, but I thought all versions of Calibre beyond 1.17 don't let you strip DRM from Amazon purchases.

calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

That is the Kindle for PC app version that introduces better drm

koogs, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

ah yeah, getting it all mixed up!

calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link

I'm on Calibre 3.1.1 and have no problems

groovypanda, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link

Me too, but I have problems. Not with Calibre, just in general.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

bit of a scare earlier when my kindle-for-pc auto-updated to the new version with the default new amz format. the last 4 books i'd bought hadn't been converted for my kobo. but i just reinstalled 1.17 and quickly used that before it had a chance to re-update (and turned off the update option).

(i only boot into windows once every couple of months, mainly to do exactly this)

koogs, Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

I hope the update option stays off and behaves itself when I make a purchase later this month.

calzino, Thursday, 5 October 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

I don't know if it has filled my computer with trojans + spyware, but I tried the 14 day trial free version of Epubor DRM Removal for a protected epub that calibre couldn't deal with and it worked perfectly.

calzino, Sunday, 5 November 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

Did you use the Apprentice Alf plugins in Calibre? They usually work for stripping DRM. Does Epubor do the same thing?

NI, Sunday, 5 November 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

The plugins on Calibre didn't work on this particular ebook file, but I just dragged and dropped it into Epubor and instantly it created a DRM free version.

calzino, Sunday, 5 November 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

it's using stock images for its 'customer' photos. but i'm not sure if that's enough not to trust it.

http://www.nataliantonovich.com/photography/ln/eng/photostock-image/10846?d0=photostock&d1=0a07a802_9756_4b79_9173_057daaedfa5f&renderAction=original

koogs, Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

spent a couple of hours last night trying to get adobe digital editions installed because when i synced the kobo the other day it updated some epubs and i was curious about what it had changed. no joy. it wouldn't let me authorise the computer, wouldn't let me unauthorise the computer.

tried it again this morning and it worked first time. there was chatter on the web about their auth server having problems.

anyway, what they'd changed in the one epub, i think, was to make the cover image shitty. it's 1/5th the file size of the original and it shows.

amazon daily deals have been rocking it recently, have bought 5 in the last fortnight.

koogs, Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

Like what?

Bazooka Jobim (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

Oh, “fortnight.” You must be Britishes. Never mind

Bazooka Jobim (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

yeah we say two sennights

erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

Lol.

Bazooka Jobim (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link


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