Hah, yeah the former. It's such a melodic letdown between the verses and the "Brain" part.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 23 January 2017 00:57 (seven years ago) link
This song is really something. There IS a pre-chorus, but it's the one that comes in before the last chorus after the modulation. Those musical materials are not heard before.
Wow.
― timellison, Monday, 23 January 2017 00:58 (seven years ago) link
The reason this song is so effective is that it doesn’t fall into the punk rock cliche of screaming “Reagan sucks!” Joey seems genuinely confused and desperate for answers. And there are few songs that sound better when cranked to the max.
― Jazzbo, Monday, 23 January 2017 15:09 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, to be clear, I love the pre-chorus. It's 'My brain is hanging upside down/I need something to slow me down' that feels half-baked to me.
― how's life, Monday, 23 January 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link
Marky Ramone goes into this song (and "The KKK...") quite a bit in his autobiography. Unfortunately I can't recall the details at all but I think he says the "My brain" bit was an unfinished fragment by Dee Dee, welded to Joey's song. And there was a bit of skullduggery to deal with Johnny - again, can't recall how that went.
Totally recommend Marky's autobiography. It's the best of the three I've read (Johnny's and Dee Dee's being the other two.) He has more detail about how the band worked and a clearer perspective on the group dynamics, being both an outsider, coming late to the band and an insider during their most popular period. Plus tons of great stories and tidbits.
― everything, Monday, 23 January 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link
lol, i've always loved the chorus because the first few times i heard the song i was sure joey was singing "reagan's hanging upside-down"
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:49 (seven years ago) link
i agree w/ clemenza. the ramones were so un-apolitical/anti-political most of the time that the honest confusion and anger of this song feels really genuine, not just another paint-by-numbers attack on reagan. joey's vocal really puts it across, too.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:54 (seven years ago) link
I'm no expert on all their material but they had a pretty unabashedly anti-/post-Vietnam song early on, that even as a young teenager came off to me as pretty political. I'll need to do some googling...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 23 January 2017 23:18 (seven years ago) link
"Commando"? You have to assume a lot to think it's anti-Vietnam. Half the first album is "political" just not party politics.
― everything, Monday, 23 January 2017 23:42 (seven years ago) link
Nah, it's "Let's Go" from End Of The Century:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiJ9xyxc-xk
Don't want to study on the G.I. billWant more action, haven't had my fillMercenary, fight for anyoneFight for moneyFight for fun
Let's goLet's goLet's goLet's go
Got a country you want to protectBut your army is more likely to defectHire my SMG with a full clipOn automatic it's guaranteed hit
Gee it's kinda scary out hereMosquitoes are happy tonightMommy, Daddy, can I please come homeEven if just for one night
Shocked how deadly we fight backTroublemakers who attackMercenary, fight for anyoneFight for money, fight for fun
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 23 January 2017 23:47 (seven years ago) link
they certainly weren't political the way a band like the Clash were political. But it's hard to deny the sociopolitical elements in stuff like 53rd and 3rd or Today Your Love Tomorrow the World
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 January 2017 23:48 (seven years ago) link
Totally recommend Marky's autobiography. It's the best of the three I've read (Johnny's and Dee Dee's being the other two.)
thanks for the recommendation... i'll read that for sure. yeah those other two books aren't so great.
― new noise, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 01:17 (seven years ago) link
Johnny's is OK because it's from his perspective.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 12:47 (seven years ago) link
I enjoyed Johnny's and Dee Dee's books partly because they are so personal and subjective. Marky's is much broader and he goes into detail about how the business of the Ramones actually works - stipends, getting to gigs, where and what they ate, where they lived, what kind of cars they all drove and so on - all of that stuff is pretty revealing about their lives. Viewing Joey, DeeDee and Johnny through their relationship with him, they become much fuller characters than they have in any other book or doc about the Ramones. The earlier part of the book is about working the early 70s bar scene with Dust. Then he was in the Voidoids and drummed with Wayne County's band before he joined the Ramones. He's done a lot!
― everything, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link
@tim ellison and other music comp dudes:
I'm on the road and currently don't have any musical equipment with me, but there seems to be something unusual with the G in the verses, sounds like a Gadd11 or a Gsus4?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, there's definitely a suspended fourth in there. The more common thing to do, of course, is to release that suspension at some point while you're still on that chord, but the guitar on this seems to hold on to it the whole time.
There are suspensions at the end of the "Brain is hanging" chorus too.
― timellison, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 01:20 (seven years ago) link
Tim, is it this one:http://jguitar.com/images/chordshape/G-Suspended%204th-G-3,3,5,5,3,3.png
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 04:53 (seven years ago) link
I would doubt that it has the suspension in the bass there on the fifth string. My guess would be just on the third string (and maybe only three-string chord or so - not all six strings played together).
― timellison, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 05:28 (seven years ago) link
Ancient revive for Tim, it's this one:https://jguitar.com/images/chordshape/G-Suspended%204th-G-3,5,5,5,x,x.png
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 15 October 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
Cheers, Al. That's a hard chord to play, though! I'm gonna get my index finger over onto the A-string?
If it was me playing it, I'd just play it like an F chord on the first through fourth strings and use my pinky for the suspension on the third string.
― timellison, Monday, 15 October 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link