Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

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that's one dusty ass record i wonder if they designed a smart brush too

just another (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 02:52 (seven years ago) link

shouldn't have used the record as a surface when measuring their flour

mh 😏, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 03:05 (seven years ago) link

how much fucking power does it take to move the chunkiest bit of the whole device constantly, rather than the lightweight bit of vinyl?

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 05:06 (seven years ago) link

It took a few minutes of reading for me to be convinced it actually read the groove, versus scanning the label and playing the LP from spotify or something.

nickn, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 06:14 (seven years ago) link

And I remember something similar from the 70s or 80s that had a soft vinyl needle to track the groove but actually read the groove optically. Very expensive then, needless to say.

nickn, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 06:15 (seven years ago) link

From design to functionalities, we've created a record player that fits modern-day life while keeping the crackle & pops.

It's not a flaw, it's a feature!

Tuomas, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 07:21 (seven years ago) link

Religious silence. LOL.

The perfect $699 accessory for playing the $3 Roger Miller record you picked up at Goodwill.

skip, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 07:53 (seven years ago) link

(Not the price, I just made that up)

skip, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 07:54 (seven years ago) link

if at some point we poll these scams LOVE will have good odds

niels, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 08:42 (seven years ago) link

So this is essentially a digital Vinyl Killer Van

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 10:17 (seven years ago) link

Here's another one. A stupid little wooden block that careers around the record like a toy truck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tfhs-pujQk

heaven parker (anagram), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 10:30 (seven years ago) link

Would rather have this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwZE6hWsPMg

(Probably was way cheaper, too)

emil.y, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 12:38 (seven years ago) link

It took a few minutes of reading for me to be convinced it actually read the groove, versus scanning the label and playing the LP from spotify or something.

― nickn, Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:14 AM (six hours ago)

Yeah, honestly, if I'm not able to have an actual record player then I'm fine just playing off itunes, I really don't see the point of these shitty shitty things.

emil.y, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 12:40 (seven years ago) link

It hurts me to see them and imagine the damage that they are doing

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 13:29 (seven years ago) link

I would love to find roger miler lps at goodwill here on the west coast...thrift stores should have an lp exchange program bc I bet the vinyl section in the average thrift store in Oklahoma has a ton of the old country records I've been looking for for ages...meanwhile I'm sure some okie is desperate for nana mouskori and can't find her in a sea of jim reeves and glen campbell

musically, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 14:02 (seven years ago) link

love the 'this is what it is, this is all it does' line in that rokblok video. accurate summation of what a useless object it is

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 14:28 (seven years ago) link

someone was making new vinyl killer vans in the early 2000s and I was sad I never bought one

mh 😏, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 14:46 (seven years ago) link

A few months ago I kept getting ads for this "floating record vertical turntable" from Gramovox.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0640/2259/t/4/assets/frlm_top_walnut.jpg?15130332091970932474

Was a Kickstarter but now available for $550.

https://www.gramovox.com/products/floating-record

early rejecter, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link

xp I remember seeing one on that Grand Royal magazine poster with all the turntables on it, maybe late 90's?

these van things are horrifying

sleeve, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link

I skim-read the Love thing to where it said "LOVE then scans the vinyl to determine its size and number of tracks" and was suspicious of how it worked (missed that it has a traditional stylus although apparently a magical one which never wears down "LOVE will never damage the record")

thought to self: if you guessed that any silences were track endings and queried freedb with the resulting track times would the CD metadata come back so the gadget could look it up on a streaming service? I'm guessing the between-track silences are too different btwn CD and vinyl but hmm

PS "LOVE reads your vinyl with a standard size stylus in order to transmit melodies specific to analog sound" argh so itchy now

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link

oh god i missed THAT, barrrrrrrrf

stein beck ii: the wrath of grapes (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link

I imagined it just spinning REALLY FAST and assuming any silences or gaps were track markers

also your record catches fire

mh 😏, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link

That IS religious!

Evan, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Most people don't realize how many melodies were lost in the transition to digital.

nickn, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 19:01 (seven years ago) link

https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/cominsoon-tech/campaign-bg/LOVE_Turntable_revolutionary_smartphone_controlled_turntable_crowdfunding_Agency2.0_features-compressor.jpg

pretty sure Basho here is listening to a $1 copy of the soundtrack to "She's Having A Baby"

nomar, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 20:00 (seven years ago) link

it looks like a carry case for really large sunglasses

mh 😏, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link

I suddenly want to go buy a variety of fancy sweaters

Evan, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link

then scans the vinyl to determine its size and number of tracks" and was suspicious of how it worked

yeah unless the camera is so accurate it can zoom into and differentiate one groove from another it sounds like 100% bs

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link

I was pretty impressed when I saw this video of a record player from 1983 that could identify tracks, skip between them, play both sides of the record without needing to turn it over etc... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgAUxJmh5uE

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 22:55 (seven years ago) link

At no point in that video could I tell what kind of sweater that guy was wearing.

Evan, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 23:00 (seven years ago) link

I always coveted one of those ELP laser turntables that could play records without a stylus, but because they were never mass-produced the price of a single unit is insane. $15,000!

Pheeel, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 23:16 (seven years ago) link

yeah the idea of laser scanning a vinyl disc holds a lot of intrigue for me

mh 😏, Thursday, 26 January 2017 00:40 (seven years ago) link

I was talking to somebody at a party a year ago who claimed to be in collaboration with some academic working precisely on laser-imaging vinyl for archival purposes, I think specifically with an eye towards unique records already in bad shape where you don't want to risk playing them. I got interested 'cause one of the applications he was working on was the whole WWII-era "record a message to send home to the folks - brought to you by the Coca-Cola Company, supporting the war effort!" thing, and I have a few of those from my great uncle, but I failed to get any contact info.

stein beck ii: the wrath of grapes (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 26 January 2017 01:33 (seven years ago) link

Okay after catching up with this thread I idly tweeted this in mild fury:

Okay, anyone who calls records 'vinyls' gtfo and never speak to me again thx

and literally ten minutes later Vnyl started following me. Do they have a bot or something? I feel stalked.

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Thursday, 26 January 2017 02:09 (seven years ago) link

Sorry, VNYL

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Thursday, 26 January 2017 02:09 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I could totally see the value of laser reading rare vinyl esp one of a kind 78s etc

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 January 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link

that is definitely a real thing. I'll try to see if I can find a link.

sleeve, Thursday, 26 January 2017 02:51 (seven years ago) link

they mostly use it on wax cylinders & such

sleeve, Thursday, 26 January 2017 02:51 (seven years ago) link

on second thought that's not really germane to this thread of mockery

sleeve, Thursday, 26 January 2017 02:52 (seven years ago) link

Yeah i saw that demonstrated by some guys from the library of congress. They can digitally reconstruct a shattered cylinder, really cool

wrinkled sweater guy (los blue jeans), Thursday, 26 January 2017 04:02 (seven years ago) link

I just got a Love Turntable ad on facebook. 50% off retail!

nickn, Thursday, 26 January 2017 05:00 (seven years ago) link

guys i dunno it looks kinda... cool??

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 January 2017 11:20 (seven years ago) link

got the same FB ad, impressive how this shite works

niels, Thursday, 26 January 2017 11:28 (seven years ago) link

Okay, anyone who calls records 'vinyls' gtfo and never speak to me again thx

You know, I'm pretty sure this outs me as an irredeemable grump, and given all the other problems in the world its relatively unimportant, and every generation develops the language they want, but yes, fuck "vinyls". They are records.

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Thursday, 26 January 2017 12:50 (seven years ago) link

We had an occasional customer years ago in the record shop I work in who styled himself as an ageing Glaswegian hard man not to be messed with who always insisted on trying to sell us his "vinyls". He pronounced it vin-ills however, with the first part of the word rhyming with bin, as in rubbish bin. His henchman was called Robbie Williams, and his introduction to the conversation always elicited a gruff rejoinder that he wasn't that one from the boyband though.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Thursday, 26 January 2017 13:37 (seven years ago) link

guys i dunno it looks kinda... cool??

I suppose it's an interesting gadget for the person who has everything... but then if you have everything, you're going to want to play your record on your expensive sound system.

The only "real" buyer for this I can think of is someone who 1) listens to most of their music with Bluetooth headphones and 2) has a super minimalist pad with no TV, stereo, speakers, or whatever. But is this the kind of person who's going to buy a bunch of records when they can stream on Spotify without adding to the clutter?

skip, Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:49 (seven years ago) link

oh i thought you could stream it to your stereo. to be honest i still can't picture it actually moving, in operation. i wouldn't be surprised if it were completely fake, in the end.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 January 2017 23:00 (seven years ago) link

but cheap bluetooth compatible tts already exist http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/d41892c53111caf9/index.html and anyway you could probably hook up any old tt to a bluetooth speaker with a bluetooth transmitter/receiver

if you already have a stereo I don't really see why you'd place your tt far from the stereo

none of this makes sense to me - you might as well just connect a turntable to a power outlet and nothing else, place your favorite Andy Gibb thrift shop score on the platter, and spin it around while you stream it on Youtube

aaarghgh

niels, Friday, 27 January 2017 12:22 (seven years ago) link

100% chance this will be sold at urban outfitters

musically, Friday, 27 January 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link


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