Brian Eno - C or D?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQOERIXmexU

I've been listening to Reflection nearly every night for the past month; might have to splurge on the app eventually.

Heard this on the Sonic Realities podcast the other week. If you had told me who it was by, I would never have expected it to sound like this. Just totally joyful.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-INeMspNSQ0

You'd never heard that before? I envy your first exposure.

reflection app repriced to $30.99. I am tempted, even though I found the album version didn't quite connect with me & I'm not sure why; but the concept of an app version of an album is way overdue for him so I feel like I shouldn't neglect it

I didn't find much in 'Bloom' to hold me; while I liked the implementation of variable-length loops capturing the melodies you'd play with the touchscreen, the sounds weren't quite there. although if you hooked it up to a good sound system, there was some nice low end going on that you couldn't hear through an iphone speaker. The music for 'Scape' ended up being my favorite Eno album since 'Shutov Assembly', I've made myself more than a few playlists of scenes in that app, and I love the degree of low end when you play it back through a good sound system. I am fighting the temptation to get a good digital-out capture of 'Scape' so I can play back WAVs more easily on other devices / systems -- certainly there are a variety of captures already on youtube -- but there is something challenging about it being subtly different every time that makes me think that I shouldn't even let myself do that.

haven't listened to the other apps; Chilvers has been busy making a few others as well, all much more reasonably priced

I wish there were some better interviews with him on the subject of his apps, but as long as I'm hanging out and guessing on a message board because I am a huge fan of the subject

Things like 'Bloom' seemed to be all real time synthesis engines; very simple sounds, but with a lot of variability, with notes being triggered instantly in response to touching the touchscreen. But it also leads to a bit of a restricted range of fairly simple sounds. 'Scape' has a lot of guitars & bass lines & things that sound like his older DX7 patches -- so those are obviously not a real time synth engine, but pre-recorded ingredients, loops or files of varying lengths that you turn on and off by dragging those silly icons onto the screen. The background shimmering modal drone I suspect is a synth engine and not pre-recorded, but overall in 'Scape' there's less control over how you trigger these sounds. but the wider variety of them makes for a much more engaging listen and it just sounds a lot more instantly like one of his albums

Listening to the mp3 captures of his 'Generative Music' release -- very un-Eno-like sounds -- sounds like elementary MIDI -- so I'm guessing that was truly a 100% real-time synth engine with no built in DSP, he committed himself to the idea of the project and did without all of his hallmark studio treatments -- he has come a long way since that release

don't know if it'd be possible but i'd LOVE an app version of discreet music, even if the generative nature of it would be less pronounced than scape, bloom, or trope. even minimal variation (and without the fades) would be preferable to just putting the 1975 recording on repeat. i'd rather spend 30 bucks on that than this newer thing.

Often play this 57 minute Eno loop, which is really nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alo3KFRfLvE

Xpost haha yes I thought it was something of an obscurity until I saw the YouTube had nearly half a million views!

This is an obscurity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJas7Q_yXXY

dharmabumguy11 year ago
I like this version better. his voice has that beachy vibe.

baaaaaaarrrrrffffff
that song is so good

my go-to ambient eno is the video version of thursday afternoon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riz6AKeBpa0

hah that was in "The Beach" (the DiCaprio movie) and I was like....something isn't right here...

wow how is it I was totally unaware of Seven Deadly Finns before today

it is so good! the yodels!

easiest way to find that on vinyl is on this Editions EG comp which is usually around for cheap:

https://www.discogs.com/Various-First-Edition/master/77118

Xpost Know this one?

https://youtu.be/03-EJBnzW1A

How about the 303 live version of Third Uncle? That's blistering af

Lol. 801!

Lol woops, thanks for the correction

think you guys mean the 311 version

I think I have heard that Manzanera album yeah. never liked the 801 record tbh

but I literally didn't know that single existed

Did you know this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5RYptkzbjY

Or this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhwNXae5_vU

Or this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEQBDyTjF7U

Or this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TghCiYstf6c

I love Eno deep cuts.

Or this surprise (Sub Pop Americana with Eno on synths and vox!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr5EHyGBsgg

dunno about that v last one but the others yes. I just thought I'd heard all the early/glam stuff

I like that walkabouts song a lot, because it is one of the very rare songs that actually sounds like something Eno would have recorded circa another green world.

ooh did not know the details on that Walkabouts song

"Belldog" is killer

Outic have u heard the BBC session bootleg with "Fever"? That's great too.

studio version of "Miss Shapiro" on Manzanera's Diamond Head is IMO far superior to the 801 Live version, tons of Eno vocals.

Robert Wyatt's "Heaps Of Sheeps" probably fits into this as well

did not know "the lion sleeps tonight" a la eno existed
it sounds kinda sped up? also pretty unremarkable aside from sounding like it's being sung by muppets

I'm guessing that the version of "Chemistry" that appears on the other side of a promo 7" with Kate Bush's "Be Kind To My Mistakes" (both from the film Castaway) is just the same as the track on the Jon Hassell collaboration (Fourth World Vol 1)? A bit of YouTubing suggests so, so I can't add it to the stack of deep cuts in here ;) (Hassell not credited on that single).

huh, somehow I've never heard "You Don't Miss Your Water," thread revive delivers

more bootlegs:

http://shardsofbeauty.blogspot.com/2011/07/eno-schwalm-czukay-cool-collaboration.html

http://shardsofbeauty.blogspot.com/2011/07/eno-schwalm-lanzarote-2001-another.html

Gawd, that Walkabouts track is glorious, thank you.

Xpost no but that Belldog one is a belter

man I haven't heard this either!

https://www.discogs.com/Eno-Sinfield-Robert-Sheckleys-In-A-Land-Of-Clear-Colors/master/263411

wau wtf @ that one

Still a weird moment in Eno:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm9x5i_lean-on-me-michael-stipe-stephen-colbert-brian-eno_music

Josh have you heard that crazy Eno/Sinfield record? not on Youtube from what I can see...

I have a copy of it, iirc. Lotta spoken word?

yeah I'd guess that it's all narration, was more curious about Eno's musical contributions in the background

I think it's mostly just weird talking with the occasional bed of droney ambient stuff. Been a while.

Tape Op just published a good interview with Brian Eno done back in 2011. I thought it was worth a listen.

https://www.podcastchart.com/podcasts/tape-op-podcast/episodes/episode-1-brian-eno/pop

I've been listening to Reflection nearly every night for the past month

In an interview Eno mentions that the app takes into account time of day, time of year, and temperature as variables in the composition, which I don't think has been mentioned anywhere else - so you might want to throw it on in the morning

I had no idea that Brian Eno produced the first Devo album until today! I learn something new ALL the time.

mark mothersbaugh has mentioned in interviews the existence of a jam session tape with devo, eno, bowie, and holger czukay. that would be interesting.

they've said in interviews that he didn't do that much on the LP. That he had ideas but they had been playing for 6 years already and had a very good idea about what the album should sound like.

Eno himself has said he barely did anything. I think it (along with the aborted Television sessions and No New York) was Eno trying to figure out how to be a producer, rather than just the smart guy with a suitcase synth adding gurgles and stuff, and also how to ingratiate himself into punk/new wave; weirdly, the more intransigent Fripp had an easier time with the same transition. It's not until Talking Heads that Eno really steps into his own as a producer, as such, and even that is more or less still collaborative; the fallout between him and Byrne after Remain in Light was sparked by the feeling that he had become a full-fledged fifth member. When U2 came to him for Unforgettable Fire, Eno first demurred and referred them to Lanois (himself a relative unknown) as the primary producer, but of course Eno stuck around to help.

Eno said he had Jerry Casale more or less standing looking over his shoulder at the mixing desk, saying "What are you doing that for?" I'm sure I read JC admit that Eno had a lot of great ideas that they were too uptight to let him carry out.

For sure, if you look at the Marquee Moon thread, you have Richard Lloyd claiming Eno wanted to do shit like glue the amps to the ceiling. Even the first Eno/Talking Heads records is not terribly radical. Things get weird with Fear of Music and Remain In Light, no doubt when Eno got more confident and started to impose his ideas.

well, the album was their first album, and they knew perfectly well what they wanted it to sound like. i will give eno credit as a producer because it does sound like that - it's a much better produced album than, say, "talking heads 77". if eno had come on on "duty now for the future" or, even more interestingly, "freedom of choice", well, the results would probably have been very different.