Had. I do not has it now. Xposts.
Am voting "Dylan", someone has to.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link
Dylan is great.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link
MY GOD THEY KILLED HIM
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
If you ignore the horrifying track witht he children's choir whose title I won't mention for fear of opening a crack in the earth, Knocked Out Loaded is fun: "Under Your Spell," "Maybe Someday," "Driftin' Too Far From Shore," the Petty collab, and of course "Brownsville Girl."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:31 (seven years ago) link
yeah street legal seems like it shouldn't be good but it's actually kinda awesome
otm about the cover photo, too
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link
I'm not a fan -- it has more sexist drivel than usual ("Is Your Love in Vain") and two songs that count as history-as-farce ("Changing of the Guard," "Where Are You Tonight?"). I've liked "Senor" the last couple times he's played it.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:49 (seven years ago) link
Where the FUCK is Empire Burlesque???
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:00 (seven years ago) link
It'd well regarded.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:00 (seven years ago) link
Not by me!!
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link
I stand by this re: Street Legal, my opinion hasn't changed
Bob Dylan's "Street Legal" - Classic or Dud?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 February 2017 00:33 (seven years ago) link
Self Portrait is mostly great, imo, but I'm a casual music listener
― a but (brimstead), Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:02 (seven years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, February 1, 2017 7:33 PM
can you understand my paaain?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:33 (seven years ago) link
No
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:45 (seven years ago) link
your love is in vain
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:53 (seven years ago) link
Self Portraiton first listen I was surprised at how not terrible this was - has some good songs, but it's not one I return to often. Overlong. Also, the bootleg series compilation is great, so not much need for this one after all.
Dylanas received wisdom has it, this is indeed a lesser 'Self Portrait'. 'Mr. Bojangles' is... fun. And I like 'Lily of the West'
Hard RainI don't like Dylan's shouting on this and other 70s live records
At BudokanWell this one has a p good band, some enjoyable interpretations. From what I've read, the band became kicking on the North American leg of the tour, and Budokan are some of the least good concerts with this setup. Too bad.
SavedHas good songs but ultimately boring and a lesser 'Slow Train Coming'
Shot of LoveNow here's a good album! Great energy, great phrasing, wit, fun. 'Heart of Stone' and ofc 'Every Grain of Sand' are standouts.
Knocked Out LoadedCrap record which for some reason has 'Brownsville Girl' which is all time
Down In the GrooveSo bad
Dylan and the DeadEmbarrassing
Under the Red SkyHaven't listened too much to this one but I do like the sticker on my copy
http://i.imgur.com/c1cUc3X.png
MTV UnpluggedFirst time I heard this I thought it was awful, last time I checked it sounded a lot better. He plays Dignity. Probably one of the best in this lot.
Dishonorable mentions: Empire Burlesque, Real Live
In other news: Bootlegs 1-3 have been reissued on vinyl, get 'em while you can!
― niels, Thursday, 2 February 2017 08:26 (seven years ago) link
After reading Dave Marsh on Budokan (RS Record Guide, blue/1983 edition) I thought, jeez, it can't be THAT bad. But it is.
The versions of Dylan's songs on Budokan sabotage meaning, reduce it to rubble, and walk blithely away, snapping their fingers like so many little hipster hitmen. It was as though Dylan were daring his audience to continue to pay attention -- or even to respect him. This is his worst record by such a wide margin it's hard to fathom it.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:18 (seven years ago) link
The version of Shelter From The Storm on Hard Rain is excellent.
Shot of Love is probably the best of these records overall, but there are good songs on all of them. Seek out Born In Time from Under The Red Sky, that is super duper good.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:46 (seven years ago) link
I like Hard Rain fine, it's just not near as good as Before the Flood.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:47 (seven years ago) link
xp that's a bit much imo, give Budokan Ballad of a Thin Man a listen - it's not sabotaged, just an attempt you may or may not enjoy
the James Bond version of It's Alright, Ma is more controversial but... it rocks!
despite a false start Simple Twist of Fate is quite nice too
not an album I revisit often but when I do it's better than I remembered
― niels, Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:51 (seven years ago) link
I'm not a big fan of Before the Flood either but if you don't mind shouty lyrics the band, songs, energy are all great
I will echo the orthodoxy that Self Portrait, Saved, Shot of Love, Knocked Out Loaded, Down In the Groove, and Under the Red Sky are all terrible, minus the (maybe) two good songs that can be found among the whole lot of them. I've never heard Dyaln, and am not even sure what it is.
I'm not typically a fan of live albums, but I'm intrigued enough by this poll to check these out. At the very least, I'm curious to hear why Dylan and the Dead has been a punchline for the last 30 years.
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Thursday, 2 February 2017 16:25 (seven years ago) link
Born in Time off the Tell Tale Signs set > album version
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link
you might even say...
>>>>>>>>>>
― niels, Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link
otm, Tell Tale Signs is so good (esp with the 3rd disk)
voted Saved here, whatta band
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 2 February 2017 19:38 (seven years ago) link
Another Saved vote here. Great album. "Covenant Woman" is one of his all-time most heartfelt love songs.
― o. nate, Friday, 3 February 2017 02:29 (seven years ago) link
i only heard budokhan once but i liked it. can't really get a handle on a lot of dylan criticism
― a but (brimstead), Friday, 3 February 2017 04:09 (seven years ago) link
Remember that TV concert accompanying Hard Rain, broadcast on NBC 1976? I watched it in my college dorm, beginning of freshman year, basically by myself guess everybody else was in their rooms listening to Peter Frampton & Bob Seger while getting stoned. I bought Hard Rain LP the next day, remember being disappointed. Out of this list, I'd say Shot of Love is by far the non-worst.
― kanye twitty (m coleman), Friday, 3 February 2017 12:19 (seven years ago) link
I saw it, and remember liking it, wish I could rewatch it. I was working night shift at a radio station, and pulled a portable b/w tv into the studio so I could keep an eye on it. Something about the shoutiness of his vocals and Scarlet Rivera's violin reminded me of Steve Harley/Cockney Rebel a bit.
― Fake posts from a failing poster (Dan Peterson), Friday, 3 February 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link
my friend just posted the tracks for this old mixtape he made, which seems relevant
https://scontent.fapa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16427697_10202642525381359_3858602989773901038_n.jpg?oh=1c3fce1279fb892630bc452dfd58508b&oe=590AB2DC
― tylerw, Friday, 3 February 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link
Came around to digging "Watered Down Love" on Shot of Love.
― who even are those other cats (Eazy), Friday, 3 February 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link
If your friend gave me a mix leading with "Is Your Love in Vain" I'd take the title literally and send in the hounds.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link
I saw it, and remember liking it, wish I could rewatch it.
you can watch it without sound? : /
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uNSaKiThSs
― j., Friday, 3 February 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link
xp haha, i think it was meant to be a provocative opener
― tylerw, Friday, 3 February 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link
man those are some ugly 70s teeth
― Οὖτις, Friday, 3 February 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link
that's a cool mixtape
but Lenny Bruce, Dark Eyes and Congratulations are filler imo
Tweeter and the Monkey Man, now there's a tune!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEJOekbg2lE
― niels, Friday, 3 February 2017 18:56 (seven years ago) link
i agree w/ you on "lenny bruce" -- love "congratulations" and "dark eyes" though. wouldn't have included "disease of conceit" either, but i can dig the rest of it. needs "angelina" and "foot of pride," probably.
― tylerw, Friday, 3 February 2017 18:58 (seven years ago) link
yeah those would be strong additions
it's been a while since I checked out Dark Eyes, will listen again
― niels, Friday, 3 February 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link
disease of conceit is really really bad
― marcos, Friday, 3 February 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link
lyrics p dud, but at least it sounds kinda impressive
― niels, Friday, 3 February 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link
Conceit is the disease that the doctors got no cureThey've done a lot of research on it but what it is they're still not sure
― marcos, Friday, 3 February 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link
lol yeah, lyrics almost drift into so bad they're good territory, but it's just bad
― tylerw, Friday, 3 February 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link
dunno abt "congratulations", feels like there's a strong song buried beneath a weird call/response chorus - I also feel like Dylan could've delivered more... maybe there's an acoustic bootleg somewhere?
― niels, Friday, 3 February 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link
he did it live once, but i think that's the only alternate version.i listened to wilburies vol. 3 last week. weird record! made me wonder what a lynne-produced Under the Red Sky would've been like. Probably kinda lame, but who knows.
― tylerw, Friday, 3 February 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link
I'll go out on a limb and say that a Lynne-produced UTRS would have really loud, gated drums. Just a hunch, though.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 3 February 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link
pretty good odds
― tylerw, Friday, 3 February 2017 19:10 (seven years ago) link
Conceit is the disease that the doctors got no cureThey've done a lot of research on it but what it is they're still not sureConceit is a sin and certainly a frightWhat a sad and sickening sight
― Fake posts from a failing poster (Dan Peterson), Friday, 3 February 2017 19:15 (seven years ago) link
conceit seems pretty lame, that's what i'm tryin to sayoh my my, oh hey hey
― tylerw, Friday, 3 February 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link
man i forgot how direct the springsteen dis "tweet & the monkey man" is, "mansion on the hill", "out on thunder road", "state trooper" lol
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 February 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link
haha wow that never occurred to me
mostly because I pay no attention to Springsteen. fun song though.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 3 February 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link
When I compiled a list of Dylan's worst a couple of these doozies made it.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link
Hamburger
― OG Honeymoon Ave (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 04:30 (three years ago) link
Hagerty
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 05:32 (three years ago) link
https://66.media.tumblr.com/0c3ec4e792525b9a21c8a0dfcb679367/tumblr_n43u97VcvU1shl3p1o1_1280.jpg
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link
I agree, Vince Neil really brought the heat
― Joey Corona (Euler), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link
The few worthy songs on "Saved" are best heard in the live versions found on "The Bootleg Series Vol. 13: Trouble No More (1979–1981)
"Covenant Woman" and "Solid Rock" are better on "Saved" IMO (and are both great).
― o. nate, Saturday, 27 June 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link
Hard rep for the Take 1 “Pressing On” on disc 3.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 27 June 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link
I'm actually not a fan of "Covenant Woman," but I prefer "Solid Rock" when it was performed early on in late 1979 - the groove was funkier. By the time they tried it in the studio, they were already streamlining the rhythm and speeding up the tempo, but the result sounds more generic and less interesting to me.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 27 June 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link
i haven’t been able to get into that bootleg set, for whatever reason... I love some of the songs on Saved — particularly “Covenant Woman.”
― OG Honeymoon Ave (morrisp), Saturday, 27 June 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link
there is def not that much distance between the live and studio versions of “solid rock”
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 June 2020 06:01 (three years ago) link
Not a huge difference, but enough to render "Saved" completely useless for me.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 28 June 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
Listening to the "Minnesota Hotel Tape," a very popular bootleg among collectors and generally one of the first ones recommended to new fans. (It was taped soon after he recorded his very first album for Columbia.) Haven't heard it in a long time, but it still sounds pretty awesome. Even the very brief moments of tape overload/harmonica distortion are appealing - a great, raw recording. Sound quality aside, it blows the debut LP out of the water - like, THIS should have been the introduction to Bob Dylan. Great songs, great performances - the recording is over 70 minutes, and it would have been easy to make a great LP out of it, there's more than enough material: "Hard Times in New York Town," "Dink's Song," "I Was Young When I Left Home," "Baby Please Don't Go," "Stealin'," "Poor Lazarus," "Wade in the Water," etc..."Black Cross" especially but Columbia might've balked at something that bold.
This blog posted a two-disc bootleg that has the whole thing preceded by more recordings from that era: https://100greatestbootlegs.blogspot.com/2016/09/90-bob-dylan-early-dylan-1961-flac.html
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 06:08 (three years ago) link
(Actually meant to post this in "Bob Dylan 1962-64: The pre-electric albums" thread but whatever.)
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 06:09 (three years ago) link
https://www.musicradar.com/news/slash-bob-dylan-michael-jackson
Slash on his time tracking for Bob Dylan's 1990 Under The Red Sky on the much-maligned song "Wiggle Wiggle":
Don Was hooked me up with Bob Dylan and said, 'Here's the song', it was a real basic I-IV-V blues kind of thing. Don had suggested me to play the solo for this particular song, which was like an acoustic kind of thing. So there was a section and I went down to the studio and I went in and did what I thought was a really great one-off. So I said, 'Don, make me a tape when you guys are done and let me check it out.'
So he sends me a tape the next day of the rough and the song's moving along; the lyrics and chorus go by and the solo section comes in and it's just me playing acoustic, strumming. And that's like two full progressions, whatever. And then back into the song. I said, 'What happened to the solo?' [Don said], 'Bob thought it sounds too much like Guns N' Roses.'
― birdistheword, Friday, 26 November 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
that's a good story. I haven't spent much time with Under the Red Sky but I reckon "Wiggle Wiggle" would have been (marginally) improved by a Slash solo. Looking at the credits on that album it's kind of insane how many big name guests he pulled in - Al Kooper and George Harrison, sure, but in addition to Slash you've got David Crosby, Jimmie AND Stevie Ray Vaughan, Elton John(!)...
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
Good album.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link
listening to it now. enjoyed the title track
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
I finally have all the Dylans and I can certify Budokan as the worst.
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
ok now that I am listening to it I am not sure I had ever heard Under the Red Sky. It IS good!
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link