paramore - after laughter - recording and anticipation

yeah, his drumming helps make that record, along with that big overblown production that for some reason I hated on every other '00s rock record except that one

They realized a two person band would look a little underwhelming on the cover.

lol

aren't they a couple though, that opens up absurdly cutesy/nauseating/lovely possibilities

?

The two dudes are so cute.

hayley is married to chad gilbert from new found glory. she dated josh farro back in the day and the breakup went horribly and that's what brand new eyes is about and it's why the farro brothers left the band

xpost

:/

I don't think they'd cover up the end of a romantic relationship by saying really mean things about how Hayley ran and controlled the band (and also how unchristian she was) so I doubt that's why they left the band.

I don't think they'd cover up the end of a romantic relationship by saying really mean things about how Hayley ran and controlled the band (and also how unchristian she was)

oh yeah i'm realllly abbreviating history there but idk i think a huge reason they left is that literally every lyric on brand new eyes is kinda like "fuck u josh"

also from what i remember about it at the time the farro bros "we're leaving the band" letter was super like... terrible bad faith shit

tbh maybe my idea of why they left was baseless speculation at the time and i've just carried that in my head for so long that i thought it was true so nm

I didn't follow the personal drama b/c I'm too old and indifferent but the fact they made their best album without those dudes has gotta burn a little. Paramore was good precisely because it was the kind of record they probably couldn't have made with two devout Warped Tour loyalists in the band

Reminds me--on a much, much larger scale--of what happened with Q and Not U back in the day. They were a good band, then they dumped their bassist and made a big show of how they'd dumped their bassist and it really seemed to energize them and open the door to all sorts of new possibilities. This was like that but on more of a Fleetwood Mac scale

xp I think the lyrics point to that intimate conflict and also more generally about the tension in the band, sometimes specifically so ("I can't believe we almost hung it up", and then some of them did, but the album pretends they can move on as long as the last jabs are hers (re 'fuck u josh' and maybe 'fuck you zac and, jeremy, and i'm not so great either (but taylor seems like he's always been the nice guy))

Echoing the love for Farro's BNE drums and hope there's some aggression on the new album to make use of them

xp I think the lyrics point to that intimate conflict and also more generally about the tension in the band, sometimes specifically so ("I can't believe we almost hung it up", and then some of them did, but the album pretends they can move on as long as the last jabs are hers (re 'fuck u josh' and maybe 'fuck you zac and, jeremy, and i'm not so great either (but taylor seems like he's always been the nice guy))

yeah this is a more accurate portrait of what's going on in that record

The way she prods at and questions her faith in the band and Faith in general on BNE in a really aggressive way, like some hurt T Rex, over these machine gun drums and pop punk emo makes it one of my favorite _pop_ albums in general, so full of drama.

Yeah it's funny how the ostensibly very positive lyrics on "Looking Up" - at least when appearing on the same album as "Ignorance" and "Playing God" and "Feeling Sorry" - can come off as really patronising and dismissive.

i don't think i realized before how indebted "turn it off" is to jimmy eat world's "work"

Music video shoot:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7BklLwWcAACzaF.jpg:large

New half-hour Hayley Williams interview:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzBkZHSDfj_ocW0yZjdsa0x6dTg/view

aaron weiss from mewithoutyou is on this record

xp: Just got done listening to that interview. No new album news in it.

https://www.facebook.com/paramore/photos/a.283859034962.37392.5388374962/10150877956544963/?type=3&theater

And now this:

https://twitter.com/upsetmagazine/status/854214441218527232?s=09

New single tomorrow

Also means these songs will likely be on the album, from the ASCAP leak

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C64x0vPXUAAo1lK.jpg

I guess tomorrow means today

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/854560196164714496/i12Lg-VS.jpg

!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEB6ibtdPZc

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MAY 12

hmmm

both the cover and single are certainly doing a lot of things

sorry for the hugeness of the uh.. hideous album art

paramore, the vintage contemporaries edition

It seems like they made this song in a shameless effort to get me to like them. I'd say it only kinda worked, but I don't hate it.

Oh shit! Yes!

wow they really went for it with that video

some nice sounds but it's a bit weak compared to the perfect synth emo rush of the singles on the s/t?

first single from the s/t was "now" so i'd say it was less than perfect

i was at first weirded out by the amount of empty space in it but now i've listened to it 500000 times so i no longer have perspective

V much into this

This slams.

thinking about this as it relates to "now," where a band that slipped into being a new wave emo trio wanted to reconnect to their past and write an older, rockier paramore song and the final construction is a really awkward frankenstein's monster, whereas this seems to push what they were doing on "ain't it fun" into a space where there are even fewer obvious referents to rock and emo

also taylor york really loves writing those spiky, fractional guitar riffs that would be marginalia or embellishment in other bands songs and centering them

been hearing a lot of songs with either lackluster or missing bridges lately so i'd like to give it up for the bridge in this song, especially the weird synth/strings(?) tremble

(i can't really say much but) from what i've heard they're really going for it with this album

First thoughts listening to the song:

1. This is wonderful
2. I don't want to hear a whole album of this

It lays it on quite thick. And guessing from the album cover it's not a one-off :/

first single from the s/t was "now" so i'd say it was less than perfect

"Now" ruled, and it was kind of a perfect lead single to the extent that there really was no one, completely representative song from that album, so you might as well just toss something quick and striking out there. ("Ain't It Fun" was the album's takeaway single, but it wouldn't have been as big of a hit if it had been released first; it needed time).

Anyway, so I'd been hoping "Hard Times" would be like "Now," a one-off stylistic tangent on another album filled with them. But that cover screams "nah we're all in on this lol Duran Duran vibe."

"now" ruling is revisionist history, much as i've grown to like it ok contextually bc the album hanging around it rules

feel like i'm more likely to hear "still into you" than "ain't it fun" in the wild in 2017 but this is based on anecdotal evidence

In my experience, it's the reverse.

I'm hoping for a variety of styles on the album as well.

also i hate to be like "read the tea leaves to determine the mood of the record" but that ascap leak upthread implies aaron weiss is on this record and i can't imagine him sing-talking over exposé's "point of no return"

something about this new song is reminding me of foals at their poppiest (i.e. my number)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tGeMr5iXoA

love this, very much pro paramore going post-punk

For each song in the rollout, my initial reaction has been "I don't know. Am I on board with this? Does this do it for me?" And then I listen to it 2 or 3 more times before my mind latches onto it and after that, I listen to it for the rest of the day.

yeah not sure about this but I didn't like after laughter at first either so I assume I'll love it soon

There’s a real cohesion in sound when you listen to all three songs in a row - feels like they’ve been listening to a lot of early 00s dance/post-punk

Hayley mentioned Dry Cleaning and Yard Act as inspirations for the latest track, which makes sense

Dry Cleaning makes sense. I've never heard Yard Act, so I'll have to give them a try. The vocals on the chorus remind me of Cansei de Ser Sexy.

But yeah, I agree that everything makes increasing sense in context. Can't wait for the album, but I also hope we don't get any more singles before it's released.

The vocals on the chorus remind me of Cansei de Ser Sexy.

― peace, man, Friday, January 13, 2023 7:20 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

haha good comparison

love the new song, everything sounds so sharp

i do hope there's at least one moment on the album where a guitar sounds like a mouth opening e.g. "future"

Ha it does sound like Dry Cleaning. Yard Act album is good. Reminds me of Art Brut.

Billboard feature

https://www.billboard.com/music/features/paramore-this-is-why-new-album-cover-story-interview-1235201005/

The band wrote the album’s closing track, “Thick Skull,” a marked sonic departure from After Laughter, on day one. “It had these shades of a few different eras of us being music fans, loving heavy, drone-y, almost shoegaze-y moments,” says Williams, also citing York’s clashing guitar patterns, Farro’s thunderous bursts of drumming and even her own rare piano playing on the song. “I was like, ‘Man, this sounds like a band I would love.’ ”

i do hope there's at least one moment on the album where a guitar sounds like a mouth opening e.g. "future"

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, January 13, 2023 9:25 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

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Fat Mike [of NOFX] used to tell people that I gave good rim jobs onstage when I was 19 years old.

Ugh. Fuck that clown.

“It’s kind of like people see us like [The] Princess Diaries,” Farro explains. “They didn’t see the beauty, but we threw off the glasses.”

Take us to film school, Zac.

I figured it out: Taylor grew that hair to spite me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQx8hiCHX8I

if you're impatient this is so so good. can't wait for friday

Need a new album thread!

many XP but wrt the heavy/drone-y quote I’ve wished for years they’d do something in the vein of “you were holding an umbrella” by Boris.

well "future" isn't thaaat far off?

there's a whole lot of clips of listening parties floating around, don't think we're going to be disappointed

i was thinking more "all i wanted" but with the vocals tearing it along with the noise. but "future" is pretty much in that direction.

I heard the album at work today. It's so good.

first impression is this is the greatest album of all time

gonna start a new thread today

this / is why / i have made a thread: in which paramore make combat rock: THIS IS WHY (2023) album discussion thread