Brian Eno - C or D?

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"Scott...if you really haven't listed to much devo, that's kind of crazy."

I know. It is. I don't know what to say. All their albums pass through my hands sooner or later year in and year out. I don't think i've ever listened to an entire album. I have weird things like that. I don't know if i've ever listened to an entire Ramones album except for the first one.

I've heard all these people a lot though...osmosis.

scott seward, Monday, 13 February 2017 07:09 (seven years ago) link

Cale is not English

wins, Monday, 13 February 2017 07:53 (seven years ago) link

Cale added that one note piano to I Wanna Be Your Dog, which is a bigger contribution to the Stooges than anything Eno added to the Devo album.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 February 2017 12:43 (seven years ago) link

Eno added howler monkeys!

wins, Monday, 13 February 2017 13:06 (seven years ago) link

Ha, didn't make the song!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 February 2017 13:06 (seven years ago) link

We're both wrong - it wasn't actual monkeys but a Javanese "monkey chant" & it is on the record, pretty much the only idea of his they allowed him to use

wins, Monday, 13 February 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

ramayana monkey chant is on the first devo album? i never pegged that

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Monday, 13 February 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link

went looking for more info on that monkey chant and stumbled upon this great invisible jukebox feature with mike mothersbaugh. there's some more details on what was used from eno's input and lots of other great info on other stuff:
http://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/mark-mothersbaugh-unedited-transcript

willem, Monday, 13 February 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link

Cale is not English

― wins

these guys are from england and who gives a shit

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 13 February 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Reintroduced to this great deep cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl1p-xj3nwc

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 March 2017 23:15 (seven years ago) link

haha what

Steve Jones on guitar

amazing, great find

sleeve, Sunday, 5 March 2017 23:31 (seven years ago) link

hadn't seen Sherberne's interview... that is kind of the talk I'd been waiting for on the album. not that it even came close to exhausting the topic.

Interesting the album version is an edit of two different captures. I was wondering if he'd just run it a bunch of times to get something with such a poised opening and closing, or if he hacked it. It's grown on me a lot as I occasionally played it over the last two months. Have to spring for the app.

Milton Parker, Monday, 6 March 2017 00:05 (seven years ago) link

Beware that the app is so playback only. Read one interview that made clear that this isn't like the others in that it lacks a "conductor" mode.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 6 March 2017 12:29 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

feel like this has been discussed before

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/how_brian_eno_managed_to_piss_in_marcel_duchamp

And I thought, how ridiculous that this particular … pisspot gets carried around the world at—it costs about thirty or forty thousand dollars to insure it every time it travels. I thought, How absolutely stupid, the whole message of this work is, “You can take any object and put it in a gallery.” It doesn’t have to be that one, that’s losing the point completely. And this seemed to me an example of the art world once again covering itself by drawing a fence around that thing, saying, “This isn’t just any ordinary piss pot, this is THE one, the special one, the one that is worth all this money.”

So I thought, somebody should piss in that thing, to sort of bring it back to where it belonged. So I decided it had to be me.

i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

Yeah, from his diary. Year with Swollen Appendices.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

Eno likely wasn't aware of this, and it may be, like the pissing tale, also of slightly doubtful veracity, or at least lacking proof, but it would be even more apt if Duchamp had indeed half-inched the idea wholesale from Baroness Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven. Which reminds me that someone half-inched my copy of AYWSA.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/features/was-marcel-duchamps-fountain-actually-created-by-a-long-forgotten-pioneering-feminist-10491953.html

Noel Emits, Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

Was there any Eno in Trainspotting 2?

the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 6 July 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

So this dropped this week:

https://soundcloud.com/adultswimsingles/brian-eno-with-kevin-shields

Pitchfork has some commentary:

Brian Eno Kevin Shields
“Only Once Away My Son”
When word surfaced of a collaboration between Brian Eno and Kevin Shields, a few questions sprang to mind. First: What took them so long? The ambient-music guru and the My Bloody Valentine mastermind have immersed themselves in neighboring oceans of sound for decades; Eno even worked with MBV’s fellow shoegaze godheads Slowdive on Souvlaki, their iconic 1993 album. And if anyone could cure Shields of his interminable perfectionism, it’s the inventor of the quintessential tool for breaking musicians’ creative block, the “Oblique Strategies” card set. Next question: What type of collaboration would this be?

Eno’s most famous partnerships (David Bowie’s Low, U2’s Unforgettable Fire) filtered his collaborators’ songwriting visions through his erudite lens, but “Only Once Away My Son” is more a meeting of the minds, like his work with David Byrne or Robert Fripp. For nine-odd mind-bending minutes, what you’d guess are Shields’ sub-aquatic drones meld with what are presumably Eno’s gamelan-like chimes, contorting themselves into breathtaking shapes. With its decaying hums, low-end rumblings, and coruscating clatter, the instrumental track may not be groundbreaking for them, but it’s familiar in the best way. The biggest question: Is this good? Unequivocally, yes.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/brian-eno-kevin-shields-only-once-away-my-son/

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

being discussed (and raved about) on the "return of MBV" thread

sleeve, Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:42 (six years ago) link

dunno if this has been discussed on another eno thread but this collab with Tom Rogerson is sounding good too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SroYdHuv9z8&feature=youtu.be

tylerw, Thursday, 26 October 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

Two 3 min. tracks on Spotify thus far. Are they part of a larger collaboration?

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 27 October 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link

The Rogerson? yeah ...

Dead Oceans is happy to welcome the pianist Tom Rogerson to the roster. His elegant and evocative debut, Finding Shore, a 13-track collaboration that began after Rogerson met Brian Eno outside the restroom after a gig, arrives December 8th.

Finding Shore is the sound of Rogerson distilling the essence of what he does after a protracted musical journey from childhood until now. He took the traditional route of music lessons and learning notation before starting composing "properly.” As a 17-year-old he had the odd contrast of being taught by the composer Harrison Birtwistle but also working as lounge pianist in a dilapidated hotel in Peterborough.
He spent some time in New York playing jazz, recording with Reid Anderson of The Bad Plus, and had a successful career with post-rock group Three Trapped Tigers, yet however enjoyable that experience was, he admits it was "definitely a diversionary tactic." Everything seemed to be an escape from the classical world or, as Rogerson himself puts it, "falling out of my ivory tower very slowly.”

Upon meeting Eno, the pair didn't speak about music at all, but bonded over their roots in the Suffolk town of Woodbridge, located on the strange flat landscape of Eastern England, all heathland, military testing sites, estuary mud and the site of the ancient Sutton Hoo ship burial.

Eno's influence on Finding Shore began by enabling Rogerson to overcome his fear of committing any one piece to its own album. As a way to open Rogerson up, Eno suggested they try experimenting with the Piano Bar, an obscure piece of Moog gear that works by using infrared beams focussed on each piano key; these are then broken as the keys are played, transforming the piano's note into a midi signal that can then be used to trigger or generate new, digital sound. As Rogerson improvised at the piano, Eno improvised with the midi signal to create a unique piece of music.

The chance meeting with Eno and subsequent conversation about the Suffolk landscape did find its way into Finding Shore. "I do totally hear it, I'll listen and think 'oh that sounds like the bells at Woodbridge, that's the birds, the wind rustling in the reeds.'” I think it permeates my music, and Brian's ambient records. That 'is it organic or is it electronic thing' is so interesting.”

tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

Hm! When was the moog piano bar developed? I met a new age musician recently who was describing strange things he used to do with a piece of moog gear attached to his piano (in the 70s) and I think that must have been what he was referring to.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Friday, 27 October 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link

Dead Oceans is happy to welcome the pianist Tom Rogerson to the roster. His elegant and evocative debut, Finding Shore, a 13-track collaboration that began after Rogerson met Brian Eno outside the restroom after a gig, arrives December 8th.


I wonder if Eno met Kevin Shields the same way.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 27 October 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

haha the bear one is great

niels, Saturday, 28 October 2017 09:04 (six years ago) link

lol rong thread sry

niels, Saturday, 28 October 2017 09:52 (six years ago) link

Too bad; I was really looking forward to hearing about Eno’s collab with a bear.

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 28 October 2017 11:16 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

still gets me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWvSG5J74yw

In a slipshod style (Ross), Monday, 27 November 2017 08:22 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Lost 24 minute Warm Jets documentary up on YT now:

https://youtu.be/7-vJ1sNDjX4

Full collaboration with Tom Rogerson on Spotify as well.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 28 December 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

!!!!

sleeve, Thursday, 28 December 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

This is incredible

A different version of "Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch" can be heard at 1:50

sleeve, Thursday, 28 December 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

omg

this is so great
thank you for posting

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 December 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link

a snippet of a different vocal take of "Blank Frank" at around 11:00

sleeve, Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link

also a drawing of Blank Frank himself, haha

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

his notebook was so funny -- all the ROXY doodles made me laugh

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

somebody plz download this before it disappears

sleeve, Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

great stuff. is that chris spedding playing guitar on needle in the camel's eye at the end?

na (NA), Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

i mean i see his name in the credits so i know he's in there somewhere. i just don't really know what he looks like.

na (NA), Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

I'm gonna assume that's Spedding. It is indeed amazing.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

the gratuitous shots of him getting ready and walking down a city street and smiling etc are pleasant but they are not a substitute for musical information
also in that category, i loved him at the flea market, talking about trash, and shooting the shit with Cindy

i am glad to have seen/heard all the parts that show process -- the band rehearsing, the guitar part on needle in the camel's eye (i think that's chris spedding? but i only know him as a rockabilly dude and he apparently hadn't reached that point in the 70s) i would like about 45 more minutes of that please.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

i don't really know much about chris spedding but i am obsessed with his song "video life." most of his other songs i've heard are loosely rockabilly-ish, yeah, but he did a ton of session stuff too. i believe he's rumored to have played a lot on "never mind the bollocks" too.

na (NA), Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

He plays a lot with Bryan Ferry and Robert Gordon (there's your rockabilly).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

and John Cale!

sleeve, Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

yes that's spedding

veronica moser, Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

Wow, that doc is amazing to have. How in the world has it only now suddenly appeared in such good condition?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

Man, replacing the "element of skill" with the "element of judgement," I just love how his brain works, what a total genius. I wish someone would publish a book of every single interview he has ever given.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

When and why did rock stars in the '70s go through a kimono phase?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 December 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

Sparks iirc

sleeve, Thursday, 28 December 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

I guess the Cindy at 18'08 is the Cindy of 'Cindy Tells Me', never realised it was inspired by a real person. Anyone know if she recorded anything?

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 28 December 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link


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