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now it's more worthwhile bc of the 3rd token tho?

i like it anyway.

next pve dropping 2x iron fist covers i need to champ him and another 4* luke cage which is pretty cool.

and btw djp u were right - i was able to grind enough hero points to roster the 4* hulk, and now i've got plenty of time (7 days for the iron man token and then however many more for the hulkbuster) to grind another 1000.

ok i like the new DDQ. since the 3* tier is shorter, everything takes about the time. the new mission with the required 4/3/2* node is fun too

Plz eli5 what bonus heroes are and how they work

afaict, you build up a favorites list and have a chance to receive extra covers for those characters as you open tokens

what i don't get is - it is an extra pull, or just the same pull you're getting

real nice of them to allow you to pick heroes you don't have as "favorites" to increase the chance of getting one

what i don't get is - it is an extra pull, or just the same pull you're getting

You just get a cover of that favorited character(s). I saw this mechanic when I opened a standard and pulled a 3*, which gave me a bonus Strange (unfortunately, not the blue I needed for my 2/5/5).

bonus = additional. I forget what 3* I pulled.

Anyway, it's kind of a remote chance if I understand correctly: first, you need to pull a 3*, 4*, or 5*, and even then you're not guaranteed of getting a bonus cover.

yeah IIRC from the forums it's a single-digit percentage chance (5%?)

you think i'm better off making my existing 4*/5*s favorites or going for the ones i don't have?

I decided to just do OML, Phoenix and Dr Strange in the 5* tier
4* I did the two I don't have (Medusa, Gwenpool) + the ones where I'm one cover away (Nick Fury, Elektra)

I went with Iceman and Nova (because I'm one cover away from a LT for each), 3* Strange, and OML. I didn't favorite Phoenix (5/0/5) because I'm terrified of pulling something other than a purple.

And you can always change it, so there's probably no single best tactic here.

Now that we've had it for a little while, what do ppl think of the new DDQ?

I dig it a lot, the 2*/3*/4* node is a lot of fun (although I do think they should have let ppl do it with 2/3 characters)

i like it a lot esp now that i can play the new node most days

on that note -- most of my 3*'s are now championed and i'm working on the last dozen (not counting colossus, sentry or ragnarok which i don't even have rostered atm). i have all the 4*'s but 12 rostered but all very lightly covered. is there a guide or suggestions to help make the transition to champing my first 4*? is there anything i can do besides making sure to finish every pve up to the 4* and just keep cashing in covers and v slowly covering these unevenly? i'd love to try and grab the 4*s from the PvP too but i still can't even hit the 3*'s in those :/ (even tho i can consistently finish in the top 100 or top 50 even).

There are several strategies around this, most of which centering around hoarding tokens until you reach a critical mass and then opening a bunch all at once. Another focuses on collecting command points and then using them to upgrade targeted skills rather than waiting on token pulls. I find both of these strategies unsatisfying and unenjoyable, so what I have been doing is focusing on PvE clears for the point rewards; if you can get through all of them, that's 15 CP plus a 4* cover for every event. Whenever I hit 25 CP, I spin the RNG wheel on the Latest Legends draw, which usually results in either a 4/5* cover I need (although I did hit a bad patch of 6 pulls in a row where I was hitting an undercovered character where I'd already maxed out the color I pulled) or a level for one of my 4* champions (XFW, IW, Quake, JG, Mr F, Flaptain, 4Thor). I could maximize and target certain characters by hoarding but... I don't enjoy it, so I don't do it.

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I transitioned into 4* land just a few months ago. For PVE, it's good that you're reaching the 4* progression reward, but I think you should aim for the final 15 CP, which has been my main source of covering 4*s. Yes, it's random as hell (and I guess I've been luckier than most), but the more Legendary pulls you make, you'll eventually get the more desirable 4* covers. And FWIW, I rarely ever play PVP, much less push to 900 points, so you might consider entering into a lower clearance level.

As for which 4* to champion first (and we're ignoring scaling issues for now because I still don't understand it), refer to this list again. If you've got a dependable IM40, then you've got some flexibility. IMO, the best characters for a transitioner to start with, among the top tier, would be any of Iceman, Jean, Thor, and Cyclops (they all have some combination of big damage, board control, and stuns, which is useful in almost all situations). In the next tier, good options would be the AP accelerators (Star-Lord, Cho) or the self-healers (X-23, Deadpool (I guess Cho, too)).

Oh and unlike DJP, I prefer classic pulls, since they're cheaper and I'm not very concerned with 5* hunting.

Note that spending 120 CP to directly level a 4* should happen in very specific circumstances: you have a top-tier character at 12 covers and then you pull one in a color you can't use AND you have or can acquire enough ISO to champ them before the queued cover expires.

I also am at a point where I can accrue 1K HP well within the 2 week expiry period of a new cover I need to roster, so I tend to hoard HP until I hit that 1K threshold and then spend it on daily deals from vaults, which I can usually make up during the course of my daily playtime and therefore slowly build up until I'm sitting pretty comfortably around 3K and then can throw HP at a specific character vault if I decide the 4* in there is worth me spending the HP.

My answer to "who to champ first" is 100% driven by "what cover did you get?" IMO, you're going to end up champing all of them anyway if you have them rostered and the odds of getting a specific cover aren't that great, so you might as well champ 4*s as you get covers for them and use the not-so-good ones as fodder/championing batteries rather than cornerstones of your PvP/PvE teams.

lol Leee I went exactly the opposite direction; I pulled classics because they were cheaper and I cared more about 4* than 5* but then I noticed that my 5* distribution was just all over the place with only a few having decent coverage, and those were usually from specific token pulls in events rather than CP purchases, so I switched to the Latest pull in order to focus the pool of 5*s I could get. Bonus heroes just make me like this even more; I can still focus my chances on a small subset of 5*s and then sporadically get free covers for the other 5*s I care about but can't pull from Latest.

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My answer to "who to champ first" is 100% driven by "what cover did you get?" IMO, you're going to end up champing all of them anyway if you have them rostered and the odds of getting a specific cover aren't that great, so you might as well champ 4*s as you get covers for them and use the not-so-good ones as fodder/championing batteries rather than cornerstones of your PvP/PvE teams.

The counterargument here would be that ISO is the most important AND limited resource, and spending 360K to champion Agent Venom or Wasp is kind of demoralizing. I know it's painful to sell a 4* cover you can't use, but hey, 1000 ISO, which you need anyway! Plus, scaling (though I guess if you have at least three 5*s on your roster, championing a 4* won't make much difference).

Yeah, totally go for Latest if you want to build up your 5*s! What's more, if you happen to get a cover that you've already maxed out for a Latest character, CS *will* let you change the color.

Me, I just think of LTs as my source for 4*s, and kind of grimace whenever I get a 5*.

i guess i'm not ready to start spending HP on anything other than roster spots yet. i have a cover i need to roster (coulson) and 12 latest legends tokens i haven't cashed in yet bc i was afraid of not being able to roster something. presumably once i've used all those tokens (and rostered them) i can start doing the strategy of spending hp on covers.

These are the questions I ask myself:

1. If I had to roster a character RIGHT NOW, could I?
2. If I spend 100 HP on a daily deal, can I make it back in the course of my play over the day?

If the answer to either question is "no" I don't think the daily deal pulls are worth it. However, almost all of my 2*/3* characters are champed, so I have a pretty steady stream of HP coming in from them that more than covers dipping into the vaults for a chance at an extra 4* (and if it doesn't work out, I can always use whatever you do end up with either in your champion farms or when pushing in PvP/PvE depending on what you pull)

I just need to write this somewhere so I don't forget and go on a spending-spree: I have a Quake resupply coming in two weeks, so she's my next champion.

I have to say I didn't get why people liked Quake so much until I realized that she negates a good chunk of AoE damage just by existing

lol yeah! She's a must when you're facing high-level Kishus (CALLLLTROPSSSSS!), and I'm starting to bring her along against high-level muscles (to try to blunt the Tommy Gun damage).

I wish there was a way to make her invulnerable to stuns because Quake/Thanos/Strange where she could mitigates Thanos's team dmg would be hilariously overpowered

She wouldn't cancel Thanos's damage because her yellow only protects against enemy damage. :\

is Thanos really anyone's friend, though

champed my 15th four star today, Thing. I'm not particularly fond of his play style but you follow the covers you're dealt.

next is Moon Knight, whose 13th cover I drew yesterday. then Spider Woman I guess, since I have her at 13 too. also have Electra and Ghost Rider at 13 but neither seem worth the ISO at the moment, will instead level some I have 12 covers for, like Prof X. My 4-4-1 Iceman is who I really want, and he's my 4 star "bonus hero" but being vaulted, he won't be easy to get to 13 without going the CP route. We'll see after Spider Woman (is she good or not? she seems pretty good but I haven't followed the "meta" on her).

I just champed Spider-Woman and the couple times I ran her in Simulator, I found her kind of hard to use. Maybe it was a bad board and/or bad teammates, but I'm not impressed so far.

do u guys think coulson is going to become limited like dino + howard? the weirdly short (but very lucrative) pve of his maybe suggests as much? or maybe it's a one time thing and they're just trying to get ppl more of his covers into circulation?

also i updated my roster: https://mpq.gamependium.com/rosters/mordy/ -- just scored a gwenpool from the enemy of the state vault, so hoping i can grab the two covers in the pve progression.

I seriously doubt Coulson is going to become limited.

coulson's actually good so hopefully not!

We've had short PVEs that guarantee covers before for regular characters: Cho and Ant-Man.

I am looking at the description of 5* Hawkeye and going "... dafuq?"

two questions: first, who next to champ of these: deadpool, mystique, doc oc*, psylocke*, sam wilson**, spider-man** (all 13 covers), or maybe one of luke cage, iron fist*, thanos* or doctor strange (all at 12 covers). i was thinking my 12 covered heroes are all better than my 13 covered so i should either spend the CP to bring them to 13 and then champ them, or save the CP (it's at 938 atm) and just hold onto the ISO until i naturally hit 13 with those last 4?

other question! bother rostered ragnarok, colossus and sentry any time soon or wait until i have 4/5* covers in dock to be opened and extra roster spots just lying around? feel like the only advantage to rostering them at this point is to get access to the relevant deadpool dailies (and i guess relevant boosts/essential chars?)?

IMO it's worth rostering all of the 2* and 3* characters because of the resources they give back once you champion them.

RE: championing order, I am correct in assuming you are talking about 3* characters? It's only 20 CP to buy a cover at that level so since you're sitting on over 900 CP I would:

- bring all of those 12 cover characters up to 13 because they are all good enough to be worth it
- champion as covers come in or, if you have the covers and are constrained by ISO, follow this order:

Doc Strange
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Deadpool
Falcon
Thanos
Mystique
Spider-Man
Psylocke
Doc Ock

None of these characters are per se bad; Doc Ock has a particular niche (he destroys goons that spam special tiles) but he is amazing in it, Psylocke is okay but can be outshone by other damage dealers unless you pair her with a strike tile generator and rely only on spamming her black for attack tiles, and Spider-Man has virtually no damage but can save you from losing with a decentish burst heal and stun-locking. Dr Strange will legit change your life, especially against goons.

oh yeah sorry about the confusion - i meant to note that the asterisks indicate the number of extra covers i have for them sitting around

So to amend my advice I would:

- spend the CP
- Champion Dr Strange immediately
- Champion the characters you have covers for in this order:

IF
Falcon
Thanos
Spider-Man
Psylocke
Doc Ock

- Champion the others as covers come in

The only reason not to champ Strange right away is to make sure you get another legendary token right away, which doesn't matter so much if you are hoarding them.

ok awesome, thanks. and what do u think - prioritize opening my legendary tokens (and rostering new chars) or rostering rag/sentry/col?

long-term, the worst 4* is going to be better than Rag/Sentry/Col

short-term and mid-term, you are closing off several avenues of progression by not rostering all of the 2* and 3* characters, plus you should also consider the 4* covers awarded by Rag/Sentry/Col after you roster them (X-23/Moon Knight/X-Force Wolverine)

Given where you are in the game's progression path, I would roster those final 3* characters before opening any legendary tokens; I also would not open any tokens at all until I had HP for a roster spot and I would stop after I pulled a new character, 4* or 5*.

with the new (dumb) only 12 4 stars available from legendaries, I'd think it'd be a good time to draw them.

fwiw I keep drawing Moon Knights from my legendaries in these new dumb times & that's ok I guess but I already have 13 covers & am moving to champ him & I'd rather get something else besides champ levels, when only 12 4 stars are available anyway.

plus I get a Moon Knight for my daily reward in a few days, the first of three I see. well at least they won't be wasted!

also enfin: buffed champed Red Hulk + buffed champed Cho is fun and nasty. I got 900 in the PVP today to get the Thing cover for 271 & the legendary (which netted me one of the aforementioned Moon Knights, but oh well, 900 always feels good). oh & within 10 minutes of getting 900 I'd lost over 200 points, so my team obviously isn't *that* good.

xp ok cool - now i just need to find them. but i'll hoard hp until i do. (they come around pretty often and i just never have a spot for them.) the only 4*'s i'll prioritize rostering before them are ones i get through like pve progression or accidentally find in heroic packs (since i really don't want to stop opening all packs just to avoid finding another 4*, esp since champ covers are a main source of hp for me atm).

Euler send me your Moon Knights plz

it's kind of annoying that alliances don't allow you to pool/share covers

at least Moon Knight seems good!

MK is good from what I hear! I've been sitting at 5/1/5 for a while and keeping getting black, though!

As for spending 20 CP on a 3* cover -- the opportunity cost is that you could've pulled a Classic LT, but if you're sitting on those and have CP to burn, I guess it's OK to bump IF or Strange to 13.

A note on 3* Deadpool: really, you're using him for Whales, namely his Insta-Win, which means his levels only matter as far as how much damage he can take before you get enough purple.