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Right, just assume that any posts made during/after an episode's airing will contain free talk about that episode until the next episode airs.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:22 (seven years ago) link

I think discussions should be unrestricted. If you want to avoid spoilers simply don't click on the thread until you've watched the latest episode.

Absolutely.

chap, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:26 (seven years ago) link

yeah I think this has always been a spoilery zone

I'm glad they're going to get more attention this year even if I'm already fatigued with russia fever

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:27 (seven years ago) link

i felt it had dipped a bit by s4, not that i can actually remember what happened in that season. i am still excited to see this tho.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:33 (seven years ago) link

I felt like that for the first half (it was getting truly grim and oppressive, unsustainably so) but the way they pivoted midway through was brilliant I thought

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:36 (seven years ago) link

I think it was an ILX poster who once said on another thread on the subject of spoilers something along the lines of - some characters get killed, some get fucked, and then the credits roll up - it's no biggie!

This is the only tv series I still watch on the actual television, all the the rest is just background ambience for the daily exercise bike sesh.

calzino, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:37 (seven years ago) link

I think discussions should be unrestricted. If you want to avoid spoilers simply don't click on the thread until you've watched the latest episode.

Absolutely. I'll be avoiding the thread until I've seen the new episode.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link

So there's an agriculture theme this year. I hope this doesn't turn out like the X-files with the bees. lol

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 04:22 (seven years ago) link

Lots to chew on so far.

chap, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 22:30 (seven years ago) link

They really jumped right in running on this one didn't they? I was very confused at the start!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link

But that grave robbing scene... eeuugh. Incidentally maybe I missed something but how the heck did they work out where the coffin was?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link

They spent literally half the season premiere digging a hole, and it was still awesome. This show rules.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link

Oh, and I would totally watch a show that was just Oleg's adventures rooting out food industry corruption in Moscow.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link

Oleg rules.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 23:44 (seven years ago) link

They spent literally half the season premiere digging a hole, and it was still awesome.

I *love* that this was their first episode back after getting more media attention due to the Russia factor

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 23:49 (seven years ago) link

how the heck did they work out where the coffin was?

I guess the satellite photo Gabriel gave them had more detail to it than we were shown. But I didn't think about that until after the show was over. I spent time, too, wondering how they knew where to dig.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 9 March 2017 00:33 (seven years ago) link

Yeah all I picked up was one minute theyre looking at a sat map, the next theyre cutting thru a fence and I thought "oh ok they have to spend hours testing holes, Time Team stylez, to find the coff...ohwait no they found it wtf"

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 March 2017 01:45 (seven years ago) link

the wordlessness of those last 10 minutes -- apart from the final getting-rid-of-hans sequence -- made me sit up.

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2017 05:35 (seven years ago) link

Thought the cold open was masterful.

chap, Thursday, 9 March 2017 08:45 (seven years ago) link

After they opened up the coffin, after ten (?) minutes of glorious silence, my mind started playing The Smiths:

"William, William it was really nothing
William, William it was really nothing
It was your life.."

What a first episode! And the balls on the writers to devote a third on digging into a grave. Thoughts like 'how did they know it was exactly there' didn't cross my mind watching it tbh. It was mesmerizing and I probably could have watched them open that up with every scoop of mud, in real time. Poor Hans tho.

Another takeaway from this episode: things will go from bad to worse for Paige won't they? It was anxious seeing how her role developed the last season, but this season it will probably be downright brutal. Finding out your whole life was a lie, trying to adapt to that, not even being able to have a first love... Damn.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 9 March 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link

how the heck did they work out where the coffin was?

Something something spy stuff etc.

hans' relationship with elizabeth in that last moment was very ugh. "it's alright, it's alright"

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link

I must have blinked when they said what they were up to or showed an establishing shot (if they did) because my wife and I were all "why are they digging a hole? did someone bury a weapon? is someone going to get buried in the hole so that they can sneak out later!? are they going to break into a pipe?!" When they finally opened the box we were all ooooooooooooooh!

I was surprised it was Hans that didn't make it. I was sure, what with red shirt (literally?) number three and four on board that it would be someone else that bought it.

Loved the cold open with the alternate family, though it almost pushes things a tad too far. I've always had an issue with the random death count on the show (guy on bus, guy on parking lot, etc.), which alone would be enough for Russia to call a spy out of there. But the idea of there apparently being dozens of deep cover agents and their helpers, I dunno. Don't ultimately care, because it is fantasy and exemplary and perfectly executed, just something that's bugged me a bit.

Looking forward to whatever comes of Oleg. Hopefully he doesn't get the Nina treatment.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link

I had to go to IMDB to make sure the actor playing their new fake son wasn't the guy who played Jianyu on The Good Place. Very similar voice, and just enough of a physical resemblance that I wasn't sure.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

No one on last weeks episode? In truth, it wasn't the best, but the greenhouse scene with the bugs getting all over Elizabeths face was reminiscent of the better X-Files suspense scenes imho. Also poor Oleg, probably getting dragged back into a place where he doesn't want to be.

Philip and Liz turning to some b minus tricks to keep their daughter from having sex/committing was a hard sell imho.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:51 (seven years ago) link

On the podcast, the show runners said there's no real world basis for the "trick," which makes me think they just wanted to resolve a problem in the laziest way possible.

Also, I called the X-Files thing after E1, half-joking, and was then super disappointed when it happened.

Yeah, great. Superbugs. Okay.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I sort of agree. What podcast is this btw?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:06 (seven years ago) link

the rubbing your fingers together schtick was not so good.

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:29 (seven years ago) link

Where did they hide Henry? I hope they do an entire episode just from his perspective, where we discover he's been up to all sorts of crazy shit.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 01:46 (seven years ago) link

xps Here's the podcast for listening to on the browser: http://podbay.fm/show/962741924

If you want to subscribe to it with your mobile app, just look for "Americans" + "Slate"

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 01:58 (seven years ago) link

It's one of the weirder tv podcasts I've ever subscribed to. Sometimes they spend zero time talking about the episode in question, and instead interview people in casting or costume or people with real world knowledge of dialects and KGB spy technology. The showrunners are almost always present, though, and directly involved with the podcast. Sometimes actors will drop in, but not always.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 02:00 (seven years ago) link

That sounds intruiging, thanks Johnny!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 10:16 (seven years ago) link

I love this show so fucking much

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 04:30 (seven years ago) link

Yay, Roxy Music!

righteousmaelstrom, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 04:37 (seven years ago) link

The scene with Elizabeth coaching Paige on "how relationships work" was so goddamn brutal

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 04:57 (seven years ago) link

Oh damn, I got distracted watching the Dave Chappelle specials on Netflix and totally blanked on this last night. Still trying to get used to it being Tuesday night show.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 11:43 (seven years ago) link

You know, this show has made me watch tv more meticulously. It felt like they showed this scarfed woman juuuust a but too long. In a split second I thought what am I missing, what is significant here. Never would have guessed it, but it was Martha. Wow.

Simon otm, Elizabeth continues to beat nihilistic truths - related or unrelated to being a spy - into her young daughter, it is so brutal to watch.

Roxy Music was cued up perfectly.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 23:15 (seven years ago) link

(The episodes, however slow burning plot wise, are chock full of characters already, but not having seen Henry for this long is starting to worry me...)

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 23:18 (seven years ago) link

WTF with that finger rubbing thing. I thought the butt clench trick was dumb enough but that!!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 23 March 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link

last two episodes were... not so good? i'm willing to accept i might not be in the right headspace but the pixillation of plots, the slightly harder to follow storylines, the lack of an immediate serious direct threat to the family's way of life and somewhat generally more lax writing feels very off.

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Thursday, 23 March 2017 00:56 (seven years ago) link

like the Martha thing felt like it lingered too long imo.
and in general i'm getting a bit tired of red herring threads that reveal too little about the characters. what secrets does tangerine grocery store lady hold? probably none.

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Thursday, 23 March 2017 00:58 (seven years ago) link

Havent seen the other nights one yet but yeah last weeks was weirdly slow and not story-progressing. I'm rapidly losing any sympathy for Stan, on another note. He is way too easily led around by his emotions and his penis. How is he an FBI agent?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 23 March 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link

lol, because the FBI are so renowned for their hypercompetence

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 March 2017 01:03 (seven years ago) link

the slightly harder to follow storylines, the lack of an immediate serious direct threat to the family's way of life

basically every season from starts this way iirc

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 March 2017 01:04 (seven years ago) link

maybe? first ep was great and built in just the right way.
basically i would appreciate it if all they did this season was dig mysterious holes for ten minutes in silence.

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Thursday, 23 March 2017 01:46 (seven years ago) link

that was a top 10 sequence maybe and they've had a lot of great sequences

as always the x factor this season is Henry

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 March 2017 02:00 (seven years ago) link

he's probably stuck in their luggage somewhere

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Thursday, 23 March 2017 02:12 (seven years ago) link

I've missed Martha, but I also kind of hope that was just a little bit of a check-in and not a reintroduction of her into the series.

Poor bug scientist. He didn't deserve that.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 23 March 2017 03:58 (seven years ago) link

I've missed Martha, but I also kind of hope that was just a little bit of a check-in and not a reintroduction of her into the series.

I think you'll get yr wish.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 March 2017 04:34 (seven years ago) link

what secrets does tangerine grocery store lady hold? probably none.

None, obvs. That was just Oleg at work.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 23 March 2017 04:48 (seven years ago) link


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