get out (2017, dir. jordan peele)

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― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:37 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't love "rap music" i love "hip hop"

xpost Yeah, there are not many scares and there's not much blood or anything, but there is a general air of uneasy intensity rooted in character interaction, which is amplified by real world issues of race.

So I think definitely falls closer to the "satire" end of the spectrum.

supplemental calcium/vitamin D, milk or not, doesn't even prevent fractures in average-risk adults so this recommendation is stupid even if it's not "racist". cow's milk is basically useless calories

not really true! whole milk has protein, fat, b vitamins

i mean "useless calories" part

sorry i haven't even seen this film yet i don't know why i am commenting. i should "get out"

can't think of much i care less about than what ALS and morbz think of this movie

Re: a bleaker ending, I was convinced that (remember there are SPOILERS IN THIS THREAD AND IN THIS POST):

When the car pulled up at the end it would be the cop from the beginning, who would then shoot him, a la Night of the Living Dead.

Milk is pretty gross as an adult, but (fortified) milk and potatoes alone can provide you with enough nutrition, at least for a while.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2828/could-i-survive-on-nothing-but-potatoes-and-milk

can't think of much i care less about than what ALS and morbz think of this movie

― na (NA), Wednesday, March 8, 2017 4:58 PM (fourteen minutes ago)

just you wait!

i predict that alfred is lightly impressed but unenthusiastic and morbs starts another thread about a spielberg movie

btw i like this movie less the more i think about it (it really, really doesn't function as a "horror," why all the cutaways during the climax, etc.) but still glad it exists

It was (imo) basically like an episode of Black Mirror if Black Mirror was good.

but what is "horror"?

idk man it's like a feeling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSR6ZzjDZ94

...just saw this, and thought it was great. Maybe, I dunno, 5% too crazy? But the rest was ace, and there were all sorts of incredible beats rooted in real world horror, not fantastic stuff.

75% crazy enough, imo. The low-key, unsettling, real world horror supplies about 80 minutes of creepy-funny build-up, but the final act plays things a bit too safe.

Feel the same way about the ending, Peele offered up some alternate endings that might have been more transgressive, less crowd pleasing

The more I think about it the more ridiculous it is (spoilers): if Grandma and mad genius grandpa had their brains or essence or whatever transferred to two new people, why would they want to spend their extended and/or reincarnated lives doing menial labor as maids and workmen, especially surrounded by people who know exactly what they did? Didn't bother me at the time so it doesn't really hurt my take-away, but still. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a throwaway line in there I missed or can't remember, referencing Grandpa's all-enveloping love doing yard work or Grandma's love of taking care of people. Or something like that.

Why would a Grandmother want to spend her time making ice tea and serving it to her kids and grandkid? Why would a grandfather, who'd been an athlete in the 30s, want to spend time doing manual labor flexing a strong young body? Sounds like what my grandparents would be doing. We also don't know how much was an act for Chris. There's a moment when the party starts where "grandpa" is greeting the guests and they hug in way that struck me as more friendly than you'd expect from the "help".

And Morbs, just go see the movie already. We saw it opening weekend at the theater in Astoria in the early afternoon and the theater was empty.

Xpost Good point! Also, they were all mad scientist lunatics, so that seems like an OK motivating factor by itself.

Sorry, it's a terrible compulsion: how did he get the cotton in his ears?

Wait, never mind, he could chew on his wrists so he could make it down/up there.

So many little things it looks like I didn't even catch. Like, weird flaw or not, he was literally saved by picking cotton! Or even though I recognized the background "a mind is a terrible thing to waste" infomercial, for some reason I forgot it was for the United Negro College Fund, which makes it even more clever/insidious.

I thought that by removing the cotton he loosened the bindings enough to squeeze his hands out and back in.

His head could reach the bonds so I assume he could reach down and insert the cotton in his ears.

^^^ that

i was a little annoyed that he took the cotton out when he did though because like duh the mom was still out there with her teacup, dude

sooooo fuckin good

this was well worth breaking a 15-month streak of no movies in the theater.

i'm glad allison williams was game for this role, i don't know of many other actresses who could have flipped on the ice queen switch so effortlessly.

allison williams is a p great actress tbh

i had no idea. like everyone else in this, she was perfectly cast for the role

This was terrific until the predictable if satisfying ending

^^ 100% agreed, though i think it was the right decision to end on an up note

Caleb Landry Jones seems to play predominately creepy characters too, between this supporting role and the part he played in The Last Exorcism

― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal),

he looks like a young pre-AA Steve Bannon

i didn't think the ending was predictable at all!

i think it was the right decision to end on an up note

― neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Saturday, March 18, 2017 11:25 AM (forty-five minutes ago

it's undoubtedly helped the film's word of mouth / box office

yeah i was fully expecting the cops to shoot him or for him to go to jail or something, evil prevails, etc

well the great thing about the ending is that the movie has its cake and eats it too -- it gets the big payoff of a happy ending while also giving you the momentary horror of a cop showing up to see a black man next to a white woman in distress, and i think that's really all the ending really needed to work. the movie ending with chris being shot or arrested would have felt macabre and unnecessary given what he had just gone thru. also i think there's a nice subtle message in the end about being absolved not by authority but by your friends.

in a sense i think you could almost think about the movie having two endings w/o there actually being an "alternate ending" or whatever. it forces you to ruminate on what would have happened had a real cop showed up in that moment w/o actually having to show it on screen.

one thing i really liked about this movie is that it was laugh out loud funny w/o resorting to being meta or ironic about the genre conventions of horror films. allison williams searching "top NCAA prospects" had me howling in the theater.

in a sense i think you could almost think about the movie having two endings w/o there actually being an "alternate ending" or whatever. it forces you to ruminate on what would have happened had a real cop showed up in that moment w/o actually having to show it on screen.

― J0rdan S., Saturday, March 18, 2017 12:25 PM (three minutes ago)

this is a great point, one i hadn't really considered

Not sure it's a happy ending! He's still covered in blood and is responsible for three deaths. I'm not sure how he talks his way out of it, even with a TSA pal.

I was the only person who laughed at the NCAA joke. My audience was uncomfortable through most of it.

well it's certainly a happier ending than the alternative. and if cops went to the house they'd find the surgery room in the basement, they'd track down the missing friend previously dismissed in the movie and be able to snap him out of hypnotization etc. it's entirely plausible chris comes out the other end as the hero.

Watching Chris standing over the body of a dying white woman, I thought about Eric Foner's Reconstruction, which I finished last Wednesday and its recounting of what happened to black men accused of murdering a white woman.

that NCAA joke, complete with creepy geometric Kubrick-esque framing, had me dying

So many other subtle things people have pointed out to me. Like, I didn't get it at the time, even in immediate retrospect, that all the guests were sizing him up for their own selfish purposes. Do you play golf? You must be great in bed. With the right training you could be a MMA guy. And so on. And that's why they were bidding. I know, obvious, but at the time, like I said, just seemed like more weirdness. The brainwashed guy he recognized, for example, in passing it's noted that he was a prominent jazz musician. I wonder if that is why he was chosen?

The more I think about it, the more I think the happy ("happy") ending is in a sense an ironic subversion of expectations.

The "you're leaving...without me *sob*" moment a brilliant piece of strategy in that he is clearly considering it cos "NO relationship is worth THIS" but she wins him back to where he "realizes" that 'you're all i got'.

Of course that to me makes the ending a lot sadder. It's true for him to the point where he can't even kill her after she tried to blow his head off. These "she's not what you think" movies often forget to consider that after the protag has escaped, he has to process the end of a serious relationship too. This one didn't labor on that but it was there.

it's funny when people act like peele copped out by not having chris get killed by a cop at the end when that's already basically the ending of the most famous horror movie with a black protagonist and that one was made 50 years ago

in mentioning the film's overall predictability (subtleties notwithstanding) and somewhat disappointing ending, I'm not referring to the last few minutes, but rather the whole third act. it's suspenseful, well acted and clever, but i wanted things to get a whole lot wilder. like society-style. i mean, even the relatively staid rosemary's baby goes farther, gets weirder. but my tastes in horror don't square with peele's aims and certainly wouldn't have helped the film's commercial prospects...

xp i was straight up afraid he was gonna do that ending as I watching it! really glad he didn't