Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

I thought all the things you complained about were done just about right. It's a small scale, insular end of the a road movie.As for the violence? Come on.

xxpost There have been approximately 3,962 depictions of possible Marvel Universe futures since Days of Future Past happened.

And that's if you mean the movie!

It's a small scale, insular end of the a road movie.

it also half assed being "small scale" by never fucking ending

WTF are you talking about, it ended exactly when it should have ended.

I really thought the climax was going to be at the house, little did I know we had another 40 minutes ft. the worst child actors ever still to go (the main girl was v good tho)

Yeah, the kids were not alright. But Jackman, and Stewart were career best.

Is this possibly the first kid actors you've seen, Simon?

the last wolverine movie was really great too. haven't seen Logan yet, very much want to.

the last wolverine movie was terrible idk what you saw

I'm talking about the Wolverine and not XMen Origins: Wolverine.

I know. it was awful and set a very low bar but credit where credit is due imho this is the first Mangold joint that actually hits what it's aiming for

i thought The Wolverine was pretty serviceable, maybe even good! Logan is definitely better though

So Sony are working on Venom and Black Cat & Silver Sable movies

they just won't learn will they

Ha, such bottom of the barrel characters - except venom I guess, but how on earth is he going to carry a movie?

way too long, reveled in its violence while trying to convey Its Toll, half-asses the dystopia stuff *and* the western angle, lazy expository dialogue, monotonous fight scenes, general unearned air of self-seriousnessness

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 March 2017 18:37 (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

100%

The reviews that state that "this isn't just a great superhero movie, it's a great movie" or w/e are totally incorrect.

Even for a superhero movie, this was shit.

I wouldn't call this a great movie, but it was very good for a superhero movie I thought. I actually had some sort of emotional attachment to the characters, which doesn't really happen with superhero movies typically.

have we already pedantically told y'all to take it to the dang Wolverine thread because the X-Men stuff is emphatically NOT part of the MCU I mean come on

can we get a ruling on just wtf the sony spiderverse is for now? is it temporarily in the MCU until they spin off these movies with characters nobody cares about mentioned upthread?

pretty sure marvel studios' plan is to use spider-man as much as possible in their movies and otherwise just point and laugh at sony's ever-more-desperate attempts to pull together aunt may vs willie lumpkin or whatever

it's the only laugh they can get considering Fox will those movie rights forevuh

I don't know if I saw it anywhere on the board but they just announced this week that the long-delayed and cancelled and uncancelled Venom movie will totally and for sure be released next year. Which is never gonna happen, but I admire the chutzpah.

My guess is that Sony will still keep feebly flushing money down the toilet developing projects for all of the tertiary Spidey-related characters they have rights to and that will never actually become anything ever until they finally make the logical step of selling the film rights back to Marvel for a spine-telescopingly enormous mountain of money.

Amy Pascal will probably get a cut of it as part of her most excellent golden parachute she got because of the hacking fiasco

i still wonder what deal with the devil she made to make that happen

I think she got hooked up because someone had to go down because of the hacking, in spite of the fact that she made the studio a fuckton of money. So the golden parachute was her going away present.

Do Fox get to make movie merchandise, or is that all run by Marvel?

Doctor Strange is a very good looking nothing-burger of a movie

Rachel McAdams as Christine Palmer was the most memorable character, I think. Certainly the only one I actually sort of cared about, and they didn't even bother to put her in any peril other than having an astral punch-up sort of knock some things around. They somehow got Mads Mikkelsen to be a terrible, boring villain who strides so purposefully everywhere he goes it's like an inside joke we're not in on.

So I guess this week they confirmed that the long-mentioned Cloak & Dagger has been picked up for a 10-episode series (on ABC Family Freeform) alongside a 10-episode order for New Warriors (featuring Squirrel Girl) AND there's also apparently a Runaways series in development at Hulu. While I hope they aren't diluting the brand too much, this is a direction I support wholeheartedly.

When are we getting an animated Power Pack show on Disney XD

If it was stylized to look like Bogdanove's art, I'd be down 1000%.

It's spelled 'Brigman'

Also this is dope news

Although Marvel seems to be widening the relational gulf between their movies and their TV projects, I guess this would still be the place to post the Cloak & Dagger trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5hrFVQiGyk

It's a little weird that Dabney Coleman is seemingly uninvolved, but I'll take it nonetheless.

BREAKING: 21st Century Fox has been holding talks to sell most of the company to Disney, sources say. https://t.co/JRf6Ly3hs6

— CNBC (@CNBC) November 6, 2017

oh I guess Bloomberg are saying the deal is dead now

so much for Dr Doom getting a proper treatment

Marvel did such a great job with the leased Spider-Man and Wolverine movies, I wouldn't give up hope.

Homecoming was pretty good. I didn't think Logan was a Marvel Studios production?

It wasn't

Haha, that's totally right. Man, Logan might be the only of all the Marvel movies I want to see again.

Logan was much better than I anticipated. Stewart really made the movie.

I thought Logan was loathsome, self-consciously grim & gritty trash

a really dispiriting movie

It was overly bloody but I don't think it was trash

I find the lack of blood in the MCU, while understandable, more disturbing and dispiriting than the more explicit stuff I saw in Logan. So many people bloodlessly impaled in the new Thor. These movies are non-stop violence, minus the bloody horror. Kind of perverse. Whether the violence had anything to do with the emotional punch of Logan, I dunno. But it did a better job of showing the cost of a life of violence than Iron Man and Captain America punching each other.

The new Thor is pretty much a comedy so I'm not surprised by the minimal blood. Also, PG-13 vs R.

I feel like if you are watching a Marvel or DC movie expecting to see the cost of a life of violence, you are in the wrong movie.

incorrect. you could sit through Man of Steel and Batman v Superman.

I don't expect to see that stuff, because these are movies for kids, first and foremost. It's just something I've thought about, and certainly something that helps me pinpoint why all these movies about doomsday or the end of the world or mass extinction events initiated by arch villains or killer robots just feel like such low stakes stories. (It doesn't help that there have been so many of these, more good than bad, imo). I definitely don't want them to go the gloomy DC route, and they're not going to go that way (although if the Thanos plot plays out anywhere close to what's expected over the course of a two part epic ... ). I grew up reading these stories (though not close to the extent of some of you) and I do recall lots of pathos and violence and threats and darkness in a way that drove the story. In these films all those things are sort of sanitized in an almost surreal way. It's not unique to these movies by any stretch, of course. But when a major character in this movie picks up a pair of machine guns and just starts shooting, I must admit that for the first time in a long time, innocuous though the scene may have been even in the context of a movie this fun, it made me a little queasy in the context of current events.

That's a scene directly from the source material, though.