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if you start pushing yourself to the max weight you can do on those you'll find you need a couple minutes rest between sets. all those minutes will add up. also i'd HIGHLY recommend stretching afterwards.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 March 2017 09:01 (seven years ago) link

ya i don't stretch nearly enough. I've been pushing pretty hard and waiting like 2-3 minutes between sets, so that's good i guess!

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 19 March 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

in that case i think you are officially going to get sw0led up. stretch though!!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 March 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link

ok so real talk, i'm not sw0ling bcz my calorie intake is not v high, and my calorie intake is not v high bcz i've been worried this isn't enough exercise and the calories wd just make me fat instead of muscle

so if I start consuming like 4000-6000 a day and all the proper protein while doing these 3 exercises 5x5 3x a week, i will gain the muscle???

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 19 March 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

also omg it is HARD to eat that much

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 19 March 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

how much do you eat now?

assawoman bay (harbl), Sunday, 19 March 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link

honestly i have no idea

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 19 March 2017 19:12 (seven years ago) link

prob figure that out and eat somewhat more, see how it goes

assawoman bay (harbl), Sunday, 19 March 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link

stevie

good on you for being so motivated! congrats!

a few things: if you're not getting any muscle mass it might be because you're not lifting heavy enough and/or have a poor diet

another thing, which i think might be the case with you, is that you shouldn't only do fast reps

my apologies if i'm assuming incorrectly, but it sounds like you are lifting light and doing fast reps because you say you're feeling like "is this it?" after a session

once your heart rate goes past i believe it is ~75, you start accessing fat and start burning that off. doing faster reps allows this to happen (there was a study done on this on runners and HIIT exercises -- i can look for it if you want)

fast reps should only be done with weights you feel comfortable lifting obviously

stimulating muscle growth requires damaging muscle fiber, because this allows it to regenerate cellular tissues that become thicker. so lifting heavier with fewer reps and, this is important, slow is key to getting bigger muscles

the thing about this process is a lot of people believe muscle will grow bigger if you eat "more." this actually is not the case and muscle takes a long time to get bigger and bigger. so when you're overeating and your body uses the protein to recover from muscle damage, there is extra energy that your body is not using. there is a scientific breakdown that involves the liver, pancreas, etc that measures sugar in your blood stream and all that goodness that you can read up on your own. but basically unused energy needs to go somewhere, and that turns into fat. this collection of fat is what happens to a lot of people who bulk, because they are overeating

getting that nice balance of fat/carbs/protein is the trickiest part because it varies from body to body, and it is not something another person can tell you exactly. you just have to adjust your diet as you go and it depends a lot on your lifestyle (sleeping hours, metabolism, current weight, genetics, etc.)

good luck!

F♯ A♯ (∞), Sunday, 19 March 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link

yeah. you can and should (if you want) make three exercises be hard enough and take a long time. not only because it's heavy but also being really deliberate about form makes a huge difference. this is why the gym helps me be less of an anxious psycho because i get to spend time focusing on something. i'm on my more reps more exercises thing for 6 more weeks after this but i wanna do your thing now.

assawoman bay (harbl), Sunday, 19 March 2017 20:34 (seven years ago) link

ah this is so helpful!! I say "is this it??" bcz my last several routines were like 5-6 exercises a day, 3 sets of 10 reps. I try to lift heavy but i could probably be going a little harder tbh. but yeah, these exercises were picked bcz they hit several diff muscles apparently so it's not like you're JUST doing one specific muscle at a time

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 19 March 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

your program looks good to me stevie! by that i mean, it looks like a lot of other simple/classic setups that i've seen. i suppose the only criticism (from an amateur, mind you) is that if you start pushing against your maximums on those lifts, to mix-n-match so that you've got a push-pull-leg breakdown on each of the 3 days, so you don't end up frying one area totally on a given day? but there are also 3- and 4-day splits out there that do one lift + some similar accessory lifts, so what do i know. just keep going until you get stuck, i guess.

re: diet. i've been using the "myfitnesspal" nutrition tracking app (mostly because it's part of the creepshow gamification scheme of my health plan). it is fiddly and irritating, honestly, and you have to get ok at estimating the weight and volume of things in both metric and imperial units, but ngl it is helpful! mostly for showing me when i've undereaten and ought to throw in another snack.

i don't know how powerlifters do it, honestly. i tried pushing things up to 3k from like 2700 and started having some p bad gastric distress. i've been eating a lot of cottage cheese. i should look into what japanese bodybuilders eat or something. bulking on a barbaric diet is strictly for teenagers, gotta be.

goole, Monday, 20 March 2017 21:09 (seven years ago) link

lol that third paragraph is such an odd kind of lie

goole, Monday, 20 March 2017 21:25 (seven years ago) link

squat 3x5 @120kg today.

i still have literally not "gained" a single pound of weight since i started all this, starting to think "gains" are a myth tbh

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 March 2017 11:57 (seven years ago) link

lower the weight a bit, increase reps

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 March 2017 12:03 (seven years ago) link

i'm in danger of putting myself off squats. I really want to be able to do them properly, and if I feel like I'm not then I get put off. Also my gym is so busy that the barbells and the area they're in are really busy and I feel weirdly intimidated trying to do these things while having enough space around me to 'correct' my form in the mirror without people walking around me or feeling like they're looking at me struggle with just a light weight.
Might just go back to goblet squats and see if that helps, but honestly I swear I'm not built to be able to do these.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 27 March 2017 12:05 (seven years ago) link

THAT GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING I HAVE COME TO BELIEVE

xpost. my official advice is to "get over it".

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 March 2017 12:07 (seven years ago) link

everybody has their own path, no one is judging u, and if they are then fuck em i mean come on

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 March 2017 12:11 (seven years ago) link

way 2 go tracer!

goole, Monday, 27 March 2017 16:09 (seven years ago) link

i just try to live one day at a time, stay humble, namaste

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 March 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link

last weekend i had horrible gym times. was really struggling with brain fog, not feeling like i was there, super tired and stuff. today was THE BEST. was kinda doing whatever i wanted. squatted with only minimal hip pain. my butt is a lot stronger than it used to be, which is helping. fanny pack was absent. i did see a guy doing bench dips with his feet on a swiss ball. the bouncing of the ball made him have like 3" of range of motion. it was kind of sad. i'm going to a work conference tomorrow on the assawoman bay so i can't gym until wednesday.

assawoman bay (harbl), Sunday, 2 April 2017 01:11 (seven years ago) link

i'm going to bring some bands and my new slingshot hip circle with me so i can have a hotel room workout, if i don't go running

assawoman bay (harbl), Sunday, 2 April 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link

explain these devices to an unfrozen caveman plz

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 2 April 2017 07:34 (seven years ago) link

Late to Stevie but DO NOT JUST GET CHUCKS the lack of arch support can be a killer

Signed, a guy who had plantar fasciitis at thirty, now has orthopedic inserts and runs an occasional 10k now

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 April 2017 01:21 (seven years ago) link

ya don't worry i got these great new balances!

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 April 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

Chucks are what you want for weightlifting. A solid base and no cushion is good for free weight movements.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 7 April 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link

I lift in chucks.

I just bought a giant bag of whey powder at costco btw, taking the next step into swoleness. Also posted a pic to fb today and someone said I looked "swole"

i get that at costco, but they only have vanilla and chocolate and i get so tired of it and it's gross with water. so i have a tub of strawberry since tropical punch was apparently discontinued? optimum nutrition. you should NOT mix strawberry with milk. it contains citric acid. i found out the hard way.

assawoman bay (harbl), Monday, 17 April 2017 01:37 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, the muscle milk one. It actually is a bit gross. I like the taste of the Pure Protein banana shakes much better but it's like 2-3x the cost per serving.

guy who runs my gym just gave me a long lecture about my squat form, how i was leaning over too far, how my elbows should be pointed straight down. it turns out he had never heard of a low-bar squat. i tried to explain it to him (in french, lol) and he's like "you should be careful about what you read on the internet" smh

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 11:42 (seven years ago) link

deadlifted for the first time since surgery yesterday -- feels good, man

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 14:02 (seven years ago) link

🏋️‍♀️🤗

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 14:04 (seven years ago) link

also started using the Strong app on my phone -- anyone else have experience with this? it seems pretty slick

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link

running a very long note in notes app this year

assawoman bay (harbl), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 23:18 (seven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I recently squatted correctly for the first time in my long sordid search for swoleness. Felt damn good.

ryan, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 23:50 (seven years ago) link

i'm doing my favorite exercise dumbbell bench press 3x/week now and getting so str0ng

assawoman bay (harbl), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:34 (seven years ago) link

do u incline?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 07:51 (seven years ago) link

I had a PT session to look at my squat form. Looks like I was trying to keep my back as stiff and vertical as possible and not bending enough at the hips. Might also have something to do with the hip joint pain I've been experiencing while running too.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 08:25 (seven years ago) link

i haven't inclined in a couple weeks. i do sometimes.

assawoman bay (harbl), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 11:56 (seven years ago) link

also started using the Strong app on my phone -- anyone else have experience with this? it seems pretty slick

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:05 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is this cool? it has a tiny number of dls on android, but looks well established on ios? i'd mess with it if it didn't have a mandatory signup. i have a google sheet that does me pretty well...

goole, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link

i've only used it twice but it's good so far. i'll report back once i've had some more time with it

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link

"guy who runs my gym just gave me a long lecture about my squat form, how i was leaning over too far, how my elbows should be pointed straight down. it turns out he had never heard of a low-bar squat. i tried to explain it to him (in french, lol) and he's like "you should be careful about what you read on the internet" smh"

Didn't realize that was you. You should have said hi! Anyway, I've gone ahead and cancelled your membership and banned you from the premises for your own good.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 20 April 2017 08:55 (seven years ago) link

owned

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/854812026346119169

goole, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link

lol

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

i just discovered i can do a push-up now and i am obsessed with them and dropping down on the rug whenever i go in or out the door just to do one. i can't really do that many at a time, so just one.

assawoman bay (harbl), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 23:35 (seven years ago) link

i should add for anyone going oh who cares, i have some super long arms and legs and it is hard

assawoman bay (harbl), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link

i think i love rowing now, btw, everyone should use the erg

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 00:05 (seven years ago) link

ugh no, torture. i should though.

assawoman bay (harbl), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link


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