Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

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I knew

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link

Reading between the lines here, I'm pretty certain neither of those endings ever existed outside his head.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link

4) Step Up to the Empire

"We had several fantastic dance battles choreographed by Stephen "tWitch" Boss that we were really sorry to see hit the cutting room floor. Hopefully we can repurpose some of them as interludes in the Young Han Solo movie."

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link

5) Empire

"They're all Queensryche fans and--"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link

these are all trial balloons

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link

^90% joking

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link

6) "Initially we had written a script that would be the first of a new, separate trilogy. Rogue One was about who and why? The sequel would be getting closer to who designed The Death Star and for what reason. The third film would have a five army battle and also a giant space bear."

nomar, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

I'm sure some talented new canon novelists are already working out the details of how Jyn and Cassian were saved just before the shockwave hit.

jmm, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

Star Trek crossover, they get transported to the Enterprise at the last second

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link

Here. I'm...still thinking. Any moment, I won't be.

That moment continued to fade into eternity as time continued on. She could still herself embracing him as he was embracing her. She kept her eyes closed. She wanted her last sight to be of the one who she had recently accepted as a close ally...a friend. She had never had one as a child. She was not letting go of this one, even while accepting the death about to bury them.

She could feel the wind rush past her. Soon, rubble would cover her and her friend.

It never happened.

The wind, the rumbling of the ground they were kneeling on, the chaos around them faded into oblivion.

Jyn feared to open her eyes. What if she opened her eyes only for them to be clouded by dust and fear?

"Jyn." Cassian rested his hand on her shoulders. "We're alive! Open your eyes."

His voice was sincere just as it had been during their rogue mission. She trusted him. She opened her eyes to see that he had been crying tears of both joy and fear. "Jyn, how....we can't be alive but you're here and I'm here."

Jyn could feel herself shaking as she looked from his face to see the world around them obliterated into an indistinguishable landscape of rubble...except for the ground that both her and Cassian had been kneeling on.

She looked over Cassian. "You aren't hurt."

"No. Are you?"

"No. I'm just shaking. I-I feel-"

"It's probably shock. I feel lightheaded, probably because I'm in shock as well." Cassian took another glance at the ruined world around them. "I would be more worried if you and I were not in shock. We should not have survived something like this. I..." He repositioned himself to sitting with his legs crossed as he lowered his head and put his hands behind his head, interlacing his fingers in an attempt to help the blood flow into his brain to ease his dizziness.

"Cassian?" Jyn gently rested her hand on his knee.

"I just need a moment to...collect myself."

"Okay." Jyn also sat like Cassian with her legs crossed. However, she didn't lower her head. She didn't need to. Her shaking had stopped. Her breathing was normal. Her mind was clear. She felt at peace.

What...is this? She could feel something inside her. Something wild yet calm. Excitement yet tranquility. I'm not happy or sad. I'm both. But I don't feel either one of them as its own. It's almost as if something is with me.

"You are one with the Force. The Force is with you."

The voice in her mind had been Chirrut's prayer except his voice had directed the prayer towards her.

From that moment she knew.

She knew that Chirrut was no longer among the living. She knew everyone else in Rogue One was gone except Cassian. As a tear rolled down her face she also knew what her mother had been, long before she came to be. She reached into shirt and pulled out her mother's necklace that bore the white Kyber crystal. She grasped it in her hands as she could faintly feel her mother's presence come close to her and gently place a kiss on her forehead.

"I am one with the Force."

Cassian slowly rose his head with eyes wide in realization of how they both managed to survive certain death. His eyes saw Jyn's eyes full of tears as she sincerely accepted her new journey.

"The Force is with me."

nomar, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link

dude

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

Make some coin. Somewhere.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link

7) Well, everyone knows many Bothans died to bring us this information. What this movie presupposes is... maybe they didn't.

, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link

"See, he was Han Duo, then there was an accident. And before that he was 4 Han."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

young Han was in an a capella group but always insisted on singing a fourth below the root bass note at the end of every song

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link

Until now, people have assumed that his last name was given as a way to describe his character.

No, I figured he was the son of Mr. and Mrs. Solo, thanks

mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link

Turns out his dad is

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13600000/Napoleon-Solo-man-from-uncle-13685361-500-418.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

"we called the dog Han"

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

a+ work nomar

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

No, I figured he was the son of Mr. and Mrs. Solo, thanks

― mh 😏, Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:19 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is this some viking/sleep ish, because this is also what i always thought -- never occurred to me that his name was a literal indication of his lonertude

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

it's a good pulpy series name, nice and on the nose

mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

i can't take credit for that fanfic : /

nomar, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

is this some viking/sleep ish

no

Number None, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:29 (seven years ago) link

In his despair, Deace is actually getting funny. Thus this in response to Bannon arriving on the scene:

https://twitter.com/SteveDeaceShow/status/845023566663946246

Because it's not already a mess enough, here comes Cousin Eddie to save the Griswold Family Christmas.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:30 (seven years ago) link

this is not the thread you are looking for

Number None, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link

Hahah thank you. A busy day indeed.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link

Until now, people have assumed that his last name was given as a way to describe his character.

yes cos in Star Wars movies he is known for travelling alone. we will learn that Chewbacca is actually a figment of his imagination.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 23 March 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link

Chewbupagus

how's life, Thursday, 23 March 2017 22:42 (seven years ago) link

fans will keep arguing he's another species completely equal to humans, but everyone else is like "he's han solo's dog"
if you live with a dog you still live alone, sorry, that's the rule

mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link

NOW it's a sleep/Viking thing

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, 24 March 2017 01:08 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://image.ibb.co/mmuDWQ/Image_1.jpg

the late great, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Harrison Ford is the best

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link

we finally saw this on demand. i thought it was really good! first half was slow and a bit tedious, and they wasted mads mikkelsen, but the back half was fantastic - as good as any of the star wars movies. i thought the whole battle was choreographed + written really well and i was impressed that they had so many theaters of action going on at once and not only did they not totally lose the plot but things tracked visually + narratively. once i figured out that it was about building the death star i was able to guess the rest of the plot (including them all dying - otherwise you'd have to wonder where they were in the original 3) but it didn't make any of it less satisfying. i wasn't sure how they'd handle the final moments (and def didn't guess a CGI princess) and thought maybe they'd just show the back of her head or something. seems like similar tech to what they used in that marilyn monroe commercial?

i read some of the reviews for the movie (a.o. scott in NYT and richard brody in NYer) and they really didn't like it! i feel like maybe they had expectations for it beyond just "enjoyable popcorn flick"???

Mordy, Monday, 1 May 2017 23:22 (seven years ago) link

Glad you liked it! I didn't, but well, I gave my reasons upthread. I do think that it'd be fair to allow it as possible to dislike this precisely because you expected an enjoyable popcorn flick and it didn't deliver what you look for in such. Can't speak for Scott or Brody though.

✓ (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 00:03 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just got around to seeing this on DVD at home on a 34" television, so nothing like 'home theater'. It hit all the basic dance steps in terms of plot and characters, except the characters never became interesting. None of 'em. They were just there so things could happen in the foreground of the production design, so the costumes had someone to wear them, so the weapons had fingers to pull the triggers and there were mouths to deliver the lines.

But as for the characters being alive and interesting? (shrugs)

This was partly because the written dialogue was weak, but I have to figure the actors could have given their lines much better readings if the director had cared to ask them to. imo this movie was a hugely expensive and elaborate storyboard. The spectacle was there and the action and the music, but it was strangely empty of people (or whatever it is a humanoid inhabitant of another galaxy is supposed to be called.)

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

got around to seeing this where "this" == Rogue One

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link

What's the best example of a film with good (define to suit) hero characters who all get killed off?

Think they could've both written and cast Jyn, Cassian and Galen (Mikkelsen only good as villains?) better but the rest were fine for what they get.

nashwan, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

the one thing interesting about the only new villain was that he was a loser bureaucrat trapped in a system that uses people. which unfortunately helped to make the Empire itself seem maybe a little less menacing and less defined as an all-consuming threat.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

the cardboard bad guys in the OT were fine enough imo

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

What's the best example of a film with good (define to suit) hero characters who all get killed off?

idk, Reservoir Dogs? Thelma and Louise? Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

Dr. Strangelove

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

Dunno abt "all,'' but a lot of the war movies this one thought it was borrowing from have very high body counts of likable characters - Dirty Dozen, Great Escape. See also Magnificent Seven and many disaster movies (though there a morality-play element favors death for the jerks and crooks, with a few nice folks sacrificed to up the stakes and keep you guessing).

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

how many are left at the end of Seven Samurai... two?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

One trope they decisively avoided was having anybody talk about the small business they want to own & operate when they return alive and whole from the war. Presumably volunteer freedom fighters don't talk about such aspirational silliness until fascism is obliterated.

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link

https://thefifiorganization.net/2014site/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/seven_fourgraves.jpg

what about silent running

ogmor, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

"I've just bought my own X-Wing! I'm gonna call it 'the Live Forever'!"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

The Black Hole might count, weirdly.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

Dark Star

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:33 (six years ago) link


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