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I feel like they were both involved in that Foreigner storyline in the late '80s (when Parker wuz boning Felicia), but yeah I can't visualize/recall them sharing a panel.

morrisp, Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:17 (seven years ago) link

So maybe it'll be a movie that just cuts back and forth between them each doing their own completely unrelated thing. Fun times. Fuuuuuuuuuun times.

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:19 (seven years ago) link

xp was Peter waiting for a girl like her

mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link

i understand kenneth lonergan is involved in scripting a bittersweet drama about the father-son relationship between leap-frog and frog-man which is due for release in spring 2019

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link

xp was Peter waiting for a girl like her

they broke up because felicia was cold as ice to peter when he wasn't wearing the spider-man suit iirc

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

SoHo loft, Nagel poster on the wall, Bambi/Candi/Randi as his neighbors... '80s Parker was cold lampin'!

morrisp, Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link

I've lived my life wrong

mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:38 (seven years ago) link

if it's any consolation, each of us is here posting about marvel comics on an internet messageboard, so i think we've all lived our lvies wrong tbh

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link

they broke up because felicia was cold as ice to peter when he wasn't wearing the spider-man suit iirc

I recall it ended for good when Spidey burst in on Felicia and the Foreigner right after a lovemaking sesh, and the Foreigner flipped the mattress while Felicia fought Spidey off ("Sorry, lover...!"). Parker had already figured out that FH had been playing him for a fool, and that was the big showdown/confrontation.

morrisp, Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link

i was just making a joke about the foreigner song 'cold as ice' tbrr

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:52 (seven years ago) link

Jessica Drew should co-star in the second season of Jessica Jones imo.

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

if it's any consolation, each of us is here posting about marvel comics on an internet messageboard, so i think we've all lived our lvies wrong tbh

― physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:42 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Are you by any chance selling engraved plates emblazoned with this motto and if so where should I send my money?

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:01 (seven years ago) link

i am now, ilxmail me yr credit card details

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link

I don't care about spider-plots, I'm just here for bad music jokes

mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link

you're fooling no-one, nerd

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:09 (seven years ago) link

i was just making a joke about the foreigner song 'cold as ice' tbrr

Haha, ok, now I get those jokes (duh). Guess I'm better with refs. to '80s comics than '80s music...

morrisp, Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link

you know that you are

mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link

Morrisp it is URGENT (emergency) that u rectify this

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link

learning more about 80s music is a great way to become a jukebox hero

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link

This is cruel we gotta stop playing these head games with him imo

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 23 March 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link

Just between you and me, it feels like the first time we gave a dirty white boy double vision.

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 March 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link

Don't do me like that, you guys

morrisp, Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link

Douglas Wolk doing some kind of Marvel thingy

https://allofthemarvels.tumblr.com/

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 23 March 2017 22:17 (seven years ago) link

Oooh, thanks for that. Love Douglas and miss his presence here.

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 March 2017 22:42 (seven years ago) link

I believe that is bound to be bound at some point iirc

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 March 2017 23:02 (seven years ago) link

Douglas was the one who first told me about ilx, at some comics show in 05 or 06

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 23 March 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link

Did Coates's Black Panther ever become good?

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 24 March 2017 03:58 (seven years ago) link

Douglas Wolk doing some kind of Marvel thingy

https://allofthemarvels.tumblr.com/

also love this "sister tumblr" linked to on there

https://marvelbah.tumblr.com/

soref, Friday, 24 March 2017 09:35 (seven years ago) link

need something like this, but just for marvel comics

http://i.imgur.com/xdi7djI.png

soref, Friday, 24 March 2017 09:39 (seven years ago) link

i read the last two issues of Coates' Black Panther. it has not gotten better.

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Friday, 24 March 2017 14:29 (seven years ago) link

I've read the first few issues of THE MIGHTY CAPTAIN MARVEL, for no particular reason... the writer, Margaret Stohl (a YA author), seems to be going for something similar to Kelly Sue DeConnick's style and breezy humor, but without quite nailing it (no knock on her, it's a tall order). It seems marginally better than the series which preceded it.

I feel like Marvel hasn't really known what to do with Carol Danvers, post-DeConnick (other than give her a butch haircut and stick her on a space station). I know Carol played a big role in CWII, but I avoided that. The DeConnick/Lopez era of CAPTAIN MARVEL was just such a perfect synthesis of character, writer, and artist... I wanted to keep following that specific incarnation of the character for a long time... (but that's comics for ya) :(

morrisp, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

Good strategy re: avoiding the fuck out of Civil War 2

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 24 March 2017 19:00 (seven years ago) link

Re: Thor, as you mentioned upthread - it's not so much that the Fury-whisper reveal is a letdown - I thought it was kind of interesting! - but I'm not really sure it needed to be dragged out over two years?

Meanwhile, in Mighty Thor - I think it was Tom E who once said something about the Shi'ar making everything BORING, no matter what - that's still the case, then.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 24 March 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link

I've been enjoying the "contest of the gods" Shi'ar storyline, mainly thanks to the wit of Aaron's dialogue; but it is one of those stories that would have taken up a single issue in the old days (or two-parter, at most), and is now stretched out over an entire year-long arc.

morrisp, Friday, 24 March 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link

http://www.cbr.com/no-diversity-didnt-kill-marvels-comic-sales/

Kind of a hubbub right now

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 6 April 2017 19:34 (seven years ago) link

I'd argue that releasing 472 titles per month might be a bigger drag on sales.

Break the meat into the pineapples and pat them (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 April 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link

if you're the VP of sales and marketing, maybe don't obviously shoot yourself in the foot when you're doing an interview

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Thursday, 6 April 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link

This was a good response:

http://gwillowwilson.com/post/159094504658/so-about-that-whole-thing

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

In the past five years Marvel's lost Fraction, DeConnick, Brubaker, Hickman, Gillen, Remender - but even in the comics press, no one's like "oh yeah, the writers"

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link

b-b-b-b-but BENDIS tho

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link

what writers? the characters are real and the sales reflect whether people like them or not. i am confused

iris marduk (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link

They were onto something with that whole 'architects' idea. Particularly when they had such solid people at the helm.

Break the meat into the pineapples and pat them (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

What is DC Rebirth doing that's giving them so much competition?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link

I have the suspicion someone noticed that sales go up for an issue #1, then diminish a little, and in the face of lower sales the proclamation was to put "#1" on as many things as possible

even the series that aren't getting renumbered have had a "#1" somewhere on the cover lately, whether it's an indicator an event is over, new creative team, etc

it's impressive this isn't the dumbest thing about marvel's sales tactics

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link

the other thing that blows my mind is the lack of cross-sales. the "agents of shield" tv show is still running, they've put analogues of the characters in a comics series, and I've never seen any "follow the further adventure of Agent May this month in the comic!" promos. ever!

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

The synergy between the Marvel media divisions is...lacking, generally speaking. But I'm happy to blame any and all tv-related shortcomings on Jeph Loeb.

Break the meat into the pineapples and pat them (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 April 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link

the other thing that blows my mind is the lack of cross-sales. the "agents of shield" tv show is still running, they've put analogues of the characters in a comics series, and I've never seen any "follow the further adventure of Agent May this month in the comic!" promos. ever!

Srsly -- almost everyone has an iPad; millions of ppl must be fans of the Marvel movies & TV shows who have never read a comic... I'd think Marvel would be pushing the h-e-l-l out of the comics. This is their big chance to expand the readership, right? But it's like someone has done the math and figured it's not worth trying. If new readers are coming in, where do they come from? How are comics marketed these days... do kids just stumble on them, or get initiated by older friends / family members? I have no idea.

morrisp, Friday, 7 April 2017 04:51 (seven years ago) link

G. Willow Wilson mentioned something key in that linked article - the direct comics market/Marvel/DC etc. generally ignore the huge rise of YA/teen/female-oriented comics, similar to manga a while back. At my local library, Raina Telgemeier's books are very popular. Another source is, frankly, tons of licensed stuff from TV and movie properties like LEGO, Batman, Star Wars, etc., and Marvel is cashing in on the kids' MCU tie-ins like Guardians and Avengers AFAICT, though I don't know the sales numbers.

Nhex, Friday, 7 April 2017 07:06 (seven years ago) link

The iPad thing is a conundrum because Marvel doesn't think digital comics sales count as comics sales. Even day-of, same price as in the store sales. I think it's out of solidarity with the direct market store owners and some sort of notion that those are the sales that "count" but it's ridiculous. They supposedly don't count digital when it comes to deciding which series to continue or collect in trade paperback, only paper monthlies.

Which makes even less sense when it comes to the licensed cartoons, because nearly every one of my friends' kids has access to a tablet of some sort and a kid wanting to read more Spider-Man adventures after watching the show seems like a win

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Friday, 7 April 2017 13:44 (seven years ago) link

holy crap that is eye-burningly stupid

iris marduk (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 April 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link


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