Twitter C/D

i only see it on web twitter and not on my phone yet but the new change is good imo

lately this thing has been happening to me on twitter app where it won't show me a full tweet, like the last ~50 characters are a link to the web twitter location of the link, that i have to click if i want to see the whole thing. must be some kind of bug, right? any way i can shake it?

A possibly important consideration for folks who blind link tweets- what happens if/when twitter is gone but ILX is still here?

This is why I've been c/p'ing the text in question lately as well.

lately this thing has been happening to me on twitter app where it won't show me a full tweet, like the last ~50 characters are a link to the web twitter location of the link, that i have to click if i want to see the whole thing. must be some kind of bug, right? any way i can shake it?

― flopson, Friday, March 31, 2017 12:33 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

update the twitter app w/ current version

lately this thing has been happening to me on twitter app where it won't show me a full tweet, like the last ~50 characters are a link to the web twitter location of the link, that i have to click if i want to see the whole thing. must be some kind of bug, right? any way i can shake it?

― flopson, Friday, March 31, 2017 12:33 PM (three minutes ago)

this is infuriating and happens to me too

i don't wanna update tho because i like the old replies lol

thx marcos, updating now

replies/threads have always been the worst aspect of twitter, idk how it could get worse tbh

one really annoying aspect is when a user with a lot of followers does a 'tweetstorm' or more modestly threads a couple tweets, that the thread includes all the mentions and replies. for a 'power user' this can be hundreds of tweets for an otherwise brief thread. there should be some option to like, just see the thread, and it should be the default, not forcing you to read the 'comments section'

idk how it could get worse tbh

― flopson, Friday, March 31, 2017 12:43 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it can always get worse

another one is when you reply to one specific tweet in a thread, your replies appear sorted by time and not by order of which tweet they're referring to, so unless you're replying to the most recent tweet, it's impossible to know who's referring to what. i get that there are no simple solutions but it must be possible to improve this

i don't think this is worse tho cuz u still have the blue lines. having the blue lines and the @ replies was redundant

also sometimes u clickthru on a tweet that is replying to another tweet... and it doesn't show you the tweet it is replying to! wtf

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8MNGCOUMAAH8d4.jpg

This is gonna suck so so bad :-(

And now their ditching the twitter egg ava too, I read?

These should be easily mutable using the regex mute feature in tweetbot.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8QxMNQXUAE-Cgo.jpg

wut

Yeah, that will encourage so many ppl. Their running down the street here, shouting 'I FEEL SO ENCOURAGED NOW THAT THE EGG IS GONE'.

the gray man shall speak

we've replaced the alienating egg with this featureless decapitated silhouette

Who cares about any of this, it's still free

twitter users i guess

i just replied to someone and then after realized i was also replying to a locked account lol

thiss

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8TelgHVwAE3Qso.jpg

People will complain about the dumbest shit about Twitter. Like all those thinkpieces decrying Twitter's replacing of the heart with a thumbs-up. Who gives a fuck?

they replaced the star with a heart

turned face into heart

Whatever.

thinkpiece writers care

Important thread on the smoothness of sharks

https://twitter.com/bransonreese/status/848746940179382272

lmao

when you have a bunch of followers and are addicted to twitter complaining about minor changes gives you something more to talk about and get those likes

far be it from whiney to complain about a trivial topic

these new changes are just objectively bad and actually make it harder to use the site and more difficult to follow conversations

so i guess if you feel there's any value in twitter or are invested in it ux changes that make twitter worse are something to complain about

it was always impossible to follow conversations but i don't see how these make it worse

i put twitter up there with soundcloud, spotify, itunes, etc in terms of how every update seems to just make the product worse

idk i think ppl who use it too much just get used to existing features and are responding to the shock of change. i only started using twitter in in 2014 but recently found out ppl complained about the introduction of Quote Tweets (imagine having to #LRT or manual RT--LOL) and the blue lines(!), things I would never voluntarily give away

Fuck both those things

I got angry when they added the i in twttr

it must have really driven you up the wall when they added the "e"

I just started using it and I'm sure I'm doing all of it wrong

I'm also learning its making me hate humanity more than I already do. =\

Fuck both those things

― stet, Tuesday, April 4, 2017 2:09 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

see??

the 'e' was an inevitability

feel like twitter users are generally pretty sophisticated re design and ive heard some actually fascinating takes on the changes from ppl in non design fields like sociology that understand communication from other povs, and then theres the intrigue of twitter just being a generally fucked up janky lost company which design is an aspect of, in conclusion i think its a good topic

what did SwartyVillain do

it is a ~mystery~

imo arthur chu's squad 51'ed him

idk i think ppl who use it too much just get used to existing features and are responding to the shock of change. i only started using twitter in in 2014 but recently found out ppl complained about the introduction of Quote Tweets (imagine having to #LRT or manual RT--LOL) and the blue lines(!), things I would never voluntarily give away

― flopson, Tuesday, April 4, 2017 12:47 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or maybe people who use a product a lot actually understand it the best and would be a good resource, say, if you were a company that actually ever listened to anything your core userbase said?

I think Twitter's main problem is that it's - IMO - not ever destined to be the dominant social media in terms of userbase, it's a "cold" medium and by nature very random and inaccessible to new users (compared to facebook or instagram). obviously it does a great job of leveling the playing field, it's genuinely amazing when you think of some of the interactions you can have with very well known public figures, so i think it's cultural/political relevance in terms of "the discourse" is pretty striking....

it's basically the most trv kvlt "internet" social media, the least controlled and most open with all the good and bad (which there is a lot of) that implies and the hardest to monetize

i feel like the company doesn't know what to do and just keeps making random UX changes in hopes of attracting this mythical mass audience that's never coming and alienating their base

/*idk i think ppl who use it too much* just get used to existing features and are responding to the shock of change. i only started using twitter in in 2014 but recently found out ppl complained about the introduction of Quote Tweets (imagine having to #LRT or manual RT--LOL) and the blue lines(!), things I would never voluntarily give away

― flopson, Tuesday, April 4, 2017 12:47 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink/

or maybe people who use a product a lot actually understand it the best and would be a good resource, say, if you were a company that actually ever listened to anything your core userbase said?

No. they are the last ppl you want to cater to: they're already hooked and despite the tantrums they throw at every minuscule UI change, will stick with it forever, or go download tweetbot in a huff. also they are short-sighted creatures of habit, who often don't know what's good for them (as exampled by my aforementioned good twitter updates that core user nerds cried bloody murder about at the time of their introduction). plus examples abound of core users looking back and saying, hey u know what those changes were actually good. the main thing twitter should be doing ito UI changes is reducing the alienation and confusion felt by newcomers. i agree with your characterization of twitter as cold and trv kvlt internet tildes, and that it is not going to become the dominant social media (for one, it is just not very fun to follow friends on twitter; they're just never going to be as clever/good at twitter as, like, the good twitter accounts, but so far no social media has successfully bridged those two worlds except maybe ig imo) BUT they still need new ppl to join at a faster or equal rate to ppl who quit, so things like making reading threads you don't participate in easier (whether or not you think new replies succeed at this) are good goals

what did SwartyVillain do
― 龜, Wednesday, April 5, 2017 5:46 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's been posting as 'byyourlogic' for like a year, and still up, unless he was banned for a spell recently

twitter has the prob where they hate the core user base, but those people are content generators who attract the casuals that just show up to scan their faves a little from the website or official apps and may actually click on ads

things like making reading threads you don't participate in easier (whether or not you think new replies succeed at this) are good goals

― flopson, Thursday, April 6, 2017 9:31 AM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

point of fact: i haven't complained about every change, i thought the quote thing was great, and other changes have been good. specifically, i think the changes make reading threads much harder and much more confusing so i think it's actual counter to the goal. (i'm not saying by the way they should stop trying attract new users it's just often the things they do like - "oh hey there's all these abusive twitter eggs making people miserable -- maybe we should CHANGE THE EGG!" - are ineffective at best and detrimental at worst

they just do a lot of dumb stuff which frustrates me because i think twitter in general is the best/most interesting social network