again, some jingoistic and elitist nonsense from you.
and what the fuck does 'living' dance music mean? if it means what i think you think it means, i'm glad that i don't live it. and even beyond that, who the fuck are you to say that i don't live it? you don't know anything about me.
finally, it seems you can't read: i wasn't really criticising Ellen Allien OR people who don't know much about dance music, though that is the way it came out. her sound and her structures are undeniably more poppy than many other producers considered in the same league. a lot of people that i know who aren't really into dance music quite like and actively listen to Ellen Allien (along with a couple other bigger names).
― the table is the table, Saturday, 2 May 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
and that isn't a judgment on them, is really what i mean. it is just fact.
― the table is the table, Saturday, 2 May 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link
yes but you said what you said and people responded thusly. easy to climb down afterwards. you don't seem to enjoy someone else casting aspersions on who you are/what you know based on an arbitrary piece of info so maybe in future you might give other people a bit more credit.
i've no desire to get in a slanging match as i'm mostly playing devils advocate, i think the whole idea of someone "knowing more" is idiotic. music is not a competition. if someone likes ellen allien they do know about dance music, she has tiny sales and the vast majority of people don't know who she is. equally if someone likes whatever's top of beatport's hard house chart they know about dance music.
― Local Garda, Saturday, 2 May 2009 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link
so to "know" about dance music someone has to conform to your defn/taste. you really are a retard.
again, never said that. just you creating some twisted version of me by casting shit on me.
― the table is the table, Saturday, 2 May 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link
only GERMAN ellen allien fans have ever really LIVED IT, guyz.
and this comes after someone stating that people in europe are so much less obnoxious than americans?
― i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Saturday, 2 May 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
for real-- i don't understand how i'm the one being called retarded.
also CLARIFYING is NOT 'climbing down,' ronan.
― the table is the table, Saturday, 2 May 2009 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I was playing devils advocate psychspawgle, and in any case I meant people actually making a living from techno for years and years might v well claim to know about it, it's not as though Allien is Kylie Minogue, she prob counts some people who have fairly serious claims to "knowing about dance music" above and beyond anyone on this thread as her fans (what about eg people recording for her label etc, they like ellen allien presumably). if you want to do the whole competitive thing. i already said i don't.
your opinion is fact? prove it.
― Local Garda, Saturday, 2 May 2009 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean just look at the discography for Bpitch, would be hard to say all of those people know nothing about dance music.
― Local Garda, Saturday, 2 May 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
again and again you completely misinterpret what i'm saying-- i never said ANYTHING evil or bad about BPitch, its artists, or Ellen Allien. i really enjoy ellen allien's work, actually. what i was saying, and will say again, is that Allien's work has some more mainstream cachet, mostly with people who aren't necessarily as embroiled in the dance music world as anyone on this thread. this is not a judgment-- pipecock might have made it seem like one, but it isn't. only YOU are making it into something it isn't.
finally, don't fucking dis on Kylie Minogue. she's awesome.
― the table is the table, Saturday, 2 May 2009 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I was actually just thinking yesterday about how even some serious technophobes I've known have loved Ellen Allien and Apparat.
― formerly: mehlt (Edward Saroyan), Saturday, 2 May 2009 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
To be fair you said: i guess that i never really saw Ellen Allien as anything but a populist and a favorite, especially among people who know little about dance music.
I think most people who were subject to such a statement would see it as a judgement, even if you claim it isn't. Who would like to be told they "know little" about dance music because they like act x? And to be fair there are so many levels of strawman above Ellen Allien, I mean she at least is a DJ and is connected to lots of good stuff.
Anyway I apologise for attacking you here (I don't specifically pick on you, I just genuinely often disagree with you) but it is just your opinion, not a fact, that was what really got me.
― Local Garda, Saturday, 2 May 2009 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
ANYWAY so what about that bill brewster, eh?
up there with the disco bloodbath and linkwood/house of traps as my favorites of these so far this year
― i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Saturday, 2 May 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
The Bill Brewster one is totally enjoyable.
― Matos W.K., Saturday, 2 May 2009 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
hey, this weekend is a bank holiday!
― jed_, Saturday, 2 May 2009 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link
hope you die!
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 2 May 2009 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
tx
― jed_, Saturday, 2 May 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
going out for a death now, enjoy yourselves guys
― Local Garda, Sunday, 3 May 2009 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link
poor ronan, mainstream indie mnml too loud on the iphone headphones too loud to hear the approaching bus
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 3 May 2009 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link
"in the end the irony was the music was not minimal enough for him to hear that bus"
― Local Garda, Sunday, 3 May 2009 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link
nice knowing you.
― jed_, Sunday, 3 May 2009 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link
actually kind of scared now
― Local Garda, Sunday, 3 May 2009 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link
when i used to work in a bank we didn't get bank holidays off. it was lame. i didn't die tho.
― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Sunday, 3 May 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
OMG MOONSTARR!
Definitely wasn't expecting to see this! Downloading now ...
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link
somebody might have mentioned this but that Linkwood podcast is sick!
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 17 May 2009 06:31 (fourteen years ago) link
actually talking of the bank holiday I see Tobi Neumann has replaced Onur Ozer at secretsundaze next bank holiday weekend because of work visa issues again. I don't think I can go out that weekend though:/
Steffi and DJ Qu soon tho!
― cherry blossom, Sunday, 17 May 2009 07:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Jus Ed at secretsundaze last summer
― cherry blossom, Sunday, 17 May 2009 07:16 (fourteen years ago) link
not sure i "get" this one but beat happening into "in the city" was lulz
― Lamp, Monday, 25 May 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link
louderbach's is brilliant
― pleased ass punch (braveclub), Monday, 8 June 2009 12:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Levon Vincent is excellent.
― matt2, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
took me forever to come around to listening to it, but that surgeon mix is as good as everyone said it was months back
― psychgawsple, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
so, people are wigging out about this levon vincent mix ... hmmm, i'm going to use it as my next workout mix and get back to you
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 12 June 2009 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
BTW i lost all of my podcasts when my hard disk crashed, except the ones i'd burned to disc, which were
joakimalexander robotnickfour tetlaurent garniermark elinkwood
with this as a snapshot of my taste, which ones should i go back and download?
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 12 June 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link
on another note, is anyone else frustrated with the RA 160kbps standard? i don't wanna be a churl cuz it's a pretty amazing service, what with all these free mixes which are frequently better or more interesting than commercial ones, but...it still sounds suboptimal :(
And now it's down to 128...
― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
levon vincent and giles smith both vv good
also can't believe they're LOWERING the sound quality. who knew we were lucky to have 160 kbps?
― psychgawsple, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
There is (was) kind of a heated debate on RA about it.
Randomly came across the Ame one.
Reposting in case anyone's interested.
― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Listening to, and really liking, the nsi. podcast right now. Funny reading all the people bitching about it in the comments.
― the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
whats the deal
― Michael tapeworm much talent for the future (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i think its from some sound engineers at a planetarium? like some birth of the cosmos shit? i couldnt even make it through the whole thing tho
i had forgotten id saved the four tet mix on my ipod and was listening to it again - crazy good
― ♥/b ~~~ :O + x_X + :-@ + ;_; + :-/ + (~,~) + (:| = :^) (Lamp), Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
xp to vahid
riton and redshape both have had staying power round my place
― andrew m., Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
and more recently, marco passarani
― andrew m., Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
New Pisco Sour mix is great, Dandy Jack and Butane collab as far a I know.
Reminds me a lot of Mariel Ito/Maetrik, or Lusine only very fun and summery.
― Ecchi Sketch, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I really like this nsi. mix.
― Matos W.K., Saturday, 18 July 2009 07:26 (fourteen years ago) link
good work ms fitz!
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit THE REVENGE
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link
no seriously, this is like everything good about roman flugel's recent HIAF mix x 1000
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 03:05 (fourteen years ago) link
no seriously
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 03:58 (fourteen years ago) link
yes this revenge mix is fantastic
― psychgawsple, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link
<3
― avuenjo, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link
man i hope my ipod synced this this morning
― W i l l, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link