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Finder is bad yes this is true

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Saturday, 1 April 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link

i started a new job on monday and they use macbooks. the keys are slightly wider apart than the acer laptop i'm used to.

spent monday and tuesday typing 'o' when i meant 'p' on the macbook. spent wednesday and thursday typing 'p' when i meant 'o' on my acer.

decided i didn't want to sacrifice the one for the other and started using an external pc keyboard at work on friday, which is better, but the various modifier keys seem to be different from both the macbook and the acer (and differ depending on the application in use). and despite being a bog-standard (microsoft) pc-105 keyboard, some keys just don't exist. i can't be the first person to plug a pc keyboard into a macbook.

koogs, Saturday, 1 April 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link

I used a PC keyboard forever with my Mac at work until finally, I just couldn't take it anymore.

pplains, Saturday, 1 April 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link

I just realized I immediately get disgusted at the all files view because it sorts a bunch of stupid JavaScript files beginning with an underscore first

why do I not have it sorting by last modified, which would turn it into an insanely useful view

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Saturday, 1 April 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link

Don't get the finder hate tbh, I think finder is better than all the alternatives, cross platforms. Finder lets you sort by date last opened/edited, date file was created, even if said file wasn't created on your own computer it keeps the original date the file was created (when copying stuff from an USB to Mac, say),, unlike any Windows pc. Give me Finder and Terminal over Spotlight any day.

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 April 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link

A columnist for my paper recently asked for me to send all his columns (hundreds, dating back to 2000), because he lost his stuff and backups in a fire. Finder made it very easy for me to sort his docs on date created. I zipped it all and wetransfered it, but on his pc he couldn't sort them by creation date. On my personal MacBook at home I could.

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 1 April 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeESbGPl_Dw

DJI, Saturday, 1 April 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link

I don't have finder at all. I use spotlight because it's faster much of the time, but I have everything very well organized via finder and dropbox.

dan selzer, Saturday, 1 April 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link

xxp thats weird, there used to be a date created field in windows explorer... unless they got rid of it?

just sayin, Saturday, 1 April 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link

of course you can sort by date created in windows, don't know wtf that guy was smoking

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 1 April 2017 23:09 (seven years ago) link

The people who complain about the finder are almost always pre OS X mac users. For them "better than windows" is damning with faint praise. They are otm

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 1 April 2017 23:23 (seven years ago) link

9.2 4lyfe

DJI, Sunday, 2 April 2017 01:42 (seven years ago) link

No way, 7.1 was the shit. Multitasking! Stability!

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Sunday, 2 April 2017 01:52 (seven years ago) link

7.1 was the shit. Multitasking!

Um, until you opened a menu and the entire machine paused to see what command you'd choose!

attention vampire (MatthewK), Sunday, 2 April 2017 02:36 (seven years ago) link

No tabbed Finder windows no cred
xp

DJI, Sunday, 2 April 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link

I haven't checked to see if anyone's had problems but I have to give them some respect for rolling out an entirely new filesystem as a point release

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Sunday, 2 April 2017 03:02 (seven years ago) link

Plain cigs, zappi. Why I meant but didn't make clear: if I copy the files from Mac to pc the creation date is set to the time of copying said files, aka right now. That's what the columnist told me anyway, he couldn't sort them on the original date created any more, because it is replaced with date of copying. But I don't know pc's very well, so maybe that info isn't lost in the process of copying?

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 2 April 2017 10:44 (seven years ago) link

ah ok that makes sense, never copied from mac to pc but that is maybe what happens. wouldn't be surprised if the same happened from pc to mac as you are dealing with different file systems.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 2 April 2017 11:25 (seven years ago) link

depends how you copy iirc
network, disk drive, w/e

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Sunday, 2 April 2017 12:13 (seven years ago) link

I don't remember the pre-OS X MacOs finder because whenever I tried to use it I just lolled at the Chicago everywhere.

I don't know how I would do my were it not for hierarchical file structures, because things like sets of lecture notes with the same name save their year are hard to find in spotlight, and I don't see a way to make that easier except by using a user-imposed structure like a hierarchical file system.

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 2 April 2017 13:46 (seven years ago) link

a metadata tag with the year, you'd think

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Sunday, 2 April 2017 15:26 (seven years ago) link

but if I have to enter the tag, how's that easier than just creating the folder?

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 2 April 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link

they're equivalent

folders aren't even used to show hierarchy but relation most of the time

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Sunday, 2 April 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link

I guess tags would be cool if I could tag files wrt my projects, and then search by project, but then I'll have a bear of a time thinking up a name for a project, and I'll forget those names.

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 2 April 2017 15:38 (seven years ago) link

I'm a fan of robust file names. At work I make the file names essentially little paths.

dan selzer, Sunday, 2 April 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link

apple made "tags" a huge thing in save dialogs and the finder sidebar but does anyone actually use them? i hid them years ago and frankly forgot they existed

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 2 April 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link

I think every 18 months I decide that I'm going to use tags and tag a bunch of things and the next day think wtf are all these dots for? I never tag everything I want, never remember what each color is for, etc.

I'm much better off with hierarchical folder structures, the find command in iterm, and spotlight so long as you hold command to show the file path (which at least is possible to do even if you have to press a key to do it).

joygoat, Sunday, 2 April 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link

i finally surrendered to the chaos of letting things file up on the desktop/downloads/documents and you know what it's fine

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 2 April 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link

I hate tagging, in general.

pplains, Sunday, 2 April 2017 17:33 (seven years ago) link

Never use tags in Apple and forever mad that the creation of tags made "labels" not work the same way anymore, it's one thing to have 1 or multiple little colored dots next to a file name. It was much easier to have the entire line colored so you could label something and really SEE the difference. The little colored dot tags are too subtle. And they could've kept the full line colored if tagged only once.

The only place I use tags is to replace folders in gmail and in fact that is why I switched to gmail. After using mail and yahoo years ago and never knowing exactly where to file something I'm grateful I can tag an email more than once and then later sort it.

dan selzer, Sunday, 2 April 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

imo they fucked up the file system tags/labels/etc. shit and are going to avoid it until they come up with a user-facing solution in iOS that they can backport

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Sunday, 2 April 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link

iPhone 7 headphone debacle continues. I just keep finding scenarios where I am cursing out the designers. Like when I have my laptop and phone, listening to something on my phone and want to switch to listen to something on my laptop. CAN'T DO IT

calstars, Sunday, 2 April 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

i lost my 64go iphone a couple days ago, luckily my gf has an old iphone i can use. problem being that it's a 16go iphone so i can't restore from backups of my previous phone as they're too big. unless i'm mistaken there's no option to allow me to restore only my contacts and text messages from the backup?
anyone know of a way to retrieve only contacts and messages from my backup? ideally one that wouldn't cost anything

Jibe, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 08:44 (seven years ago) link

you can deselect what you want to restore i think. take a look at this post:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/had-64gig-iphone-5-now-16gig-not-enough-space-to-restore-backup.1631639/#post-18639238

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 09:01 (seven years ago) link

thx, i'd seen this but it looks like apple fixed this issue as i can't click through the tabs when i get the warning message

Jibe, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 09:19 (seven years ago) link

this is probably a really basic question but is there a way of getting microsoft word on a macbook without paying??? i need to do editing work that involves tracking changes and openoffice isn't compatible with the client's end :((((

lex pretend, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link

steal a copy is all i know

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 22:51 (seven years ago) link

office 365 free trial https://products.office.com/en-US/try

just another (diamonddave85), Thursday, 6 April 2017 04:06 (seven years ago) link

The people who complain about the finder are almost always pre OS X mac users. For them "better than windows" is damning with faint praise. They are otm

yeah i still feel like a permanent moron about the whole file-browser-window paradigm yet persist in treating everything as much like finder folders as i can vaguely recollect, bc dammit things were better then

j., Thursday, 6 April 2017 04:17 (seven years ago) link

holy crap. just randomly noticed Apple finally put the "open playlist in new window" feature back into iTunes.

dan selzer, Monday, 17 April 2017 03:39 (seven years ago) link

Oh nice

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Monday, 17 April 2017 03:51 (seven years ago) link

i can't drag a photo from Photos to Twitter

wtf is the point of an operating system in 2017 if it can't do this

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 17 April 2017 16:30 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

All anyone wanted was a MacBook Air with a Retina Display, and Microsoft gave it to β€˜em. https://t.co/pGXmL4dQbi

— nilay patel (@reckless) May 2, 2017

stet, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link

https://9to5mac.com/2017/05/01/siri-speaker-kgi-wwdc-home-ai/

KGI’s Ming-Chi Kuo has published an industry report today claiming that Apple will likely announce a Siri Speaker product (branding unknown, Kuo calls it β€˜Apple’s first home AI product’) at WWDC in June. The device will compete with the Amazon Echo and go on sale in the second half of the year.

finally apple will have a specific device wholly dedicated to being totally fucking useless

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:54 (seven years ago) link

Surely that is already the Apple Watch.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:59 (seven years ago) link

would you believe i completely forgot about the apple watch

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 05:22 (seven years ago) link

changing keyboard ON IPHONE triggers the control centre at least 50% of the time and it's really

fucking

annoying

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 01:10 (six years ago) link

I upgraded to OS Sierra! Everything is faster!

Except TextEdit ie the program I do all my work in. Every time I save, I get the spinning beach ball, sometimes for a few seconds, sometimes a crash that necessitates forcing quit. How do I fix this? Why would TextEdit of all things be screwed by an upgrade?

lex pretend, Friday, 19 May 2017 09:35 (six years ago) link

(on a Macbook Pro)

lex pretend, Friday, 19 May 2017 09:35 (six years ago) link

I have used a Mac for 5 years at work and still squirm with rage daily at how annoying these fucking things are to use.

A MAJOR source of irritation is using two screens and switching between different windows. I realise I have no right to expect Mac OS to work like Windows, but it's always annoyed me that I cannot choose to have CMD/tab to switch between different windows rather than applications. But whatever, I'd be fine using CMD/` to switch between windows of the same app if it actually fucking worked. Instead, I've got Chrome focused on one screen, Chrome on another, but CMD/` takes me to Word and then flips between Word docs. Maybe there is some logic to this that has escaped me over all these years, but how I hate these shitty machines.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 19 May 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link


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