also I've accepted the cw that twitter cld be profitable if it scaled down its ambitions and expect it to eventually do so once vc $$$ dries up. the targeted ads are way better than their facebook equivalents imo
― flopson, Thursday, 6 April 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link
theyre a public company man
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link
which is a similar tho really much worse bind than being beholden to vc $$$
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:13 (seven years ago) link
i've noticed politics tweetstormers including a patreon or paypal link as the last tweet on each rant, and/or pinning a payment tweet on their feeds. seems like a pretty kludgy way for a medium to sustain its content creators. particularly when that medium is a laughingstock for failing to monetize its users. can't micropayments be built-in? twitter could even take a cut. i'd break adam khan off a little if it was as easy as fav'ing
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link
its interesting youtube is the only social network that really works to get its super users money
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
sry obvs its public i just meant its valued + it spends like a big social media giant most know it's not gonna be, i always figured a slimmer less ambitious twitter could turn a profit. cld totally be wrong
― flopson, Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link
the thing with twitters constant futzing around with its product is theres no discernible thread in what theyre doing, each change may be defensible on its own but like what are they up to on a more general strategic level, its not clear, this prob stems from the fact that they wld like to a. get more users and b. retain their current users, which are at cross purposes because their current users are hardcore feed junkies who have different preferences than the ordinary users they desire, theyre still chasing big growth even tho they are a mature company that should be weighing costs and revenue like mature adults, which if they did wld lead them to the conclusion that their product is fundamentally for power users, once they came to terms with this obvious truth then it wld not be hard to make a good sensible product, but of course wall street has a lot of growth priced into their stock and if they announced that they were going to be a normal company now shareholders wld replace their leadership with people who want to do growth, the best path toward an alignment of twitters business and product interests is prob to wait until the stock drops to a price in line with the company they actually are then take it private, at that point they cld prob cut their payroll by 3/4 and start being a good normal company for internet obsessives
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link
otm
didn't u have some idea about a parallel twitter for noobs? i think that's a good idea
― flopson, Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:48 (seven years ago) link
ha i just reread it, the diagnosis of the problem is sound imo the product prob wldnt work, most dont, might be worth a try tho, twitter is kinda unique in how its reach is so much bigger than its app, like u see tweets on tv all the time, there must be some way to —monetize— that lol http://joe-sch.kinja.com/i-fixed-twitter-totally-algorithmic-twitter-1631099310
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link
last time i listened to npr it was just ppl reading tweets
― flopson, Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link
sports center is like 90% tweets
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 April 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link
I'm going to start putting payment links at the end of my longer ilx posts
you can pay out of appreciation, or check the box indicating you're paying me to post less
― a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link
lol
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 April 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/327677-twitter-alleges-trump-administration-tried-to-unmask-critical-account
― maura, Thursday, 6 April 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link
Jesus Christ
― The Jams Manager (1992, Brickster) (El Tomboto), Thursday, 6 April 2017 22:25 (seven years ago) link
― flopson, Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:28 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i remember this hedge fund dude pretty much saying that - http://brontecapital.blogspot.com.au/2016/10/some-comment-on-twitter-buyout-rumours.html
― just sayin, Thursday, 6 April 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link
good link!
― The Jams Manager (1992, Brickster) (El Tomboto), Friday, 7 April 2017 00:26 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/carterjwm/status/849813577770778624
i cannot believe how quickly this got to 1 milion retweets
― 龜, Friday, 7 April 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link
i'll help him out down that last 1m stretch if he gets to 17m
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 7 April 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
I unfollowed someone recently and I'm still getting info about the dude liking all kinds of tweets... I feel lied to. how do I shot twitter?
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 7 April 2017 21:15 (seven years ago) link
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/brace-belden-pisspiggranddad-syria-isis.html
― The Jams Manager (1992, Brickster) (El Tomboto), Sunday, 9 April 2017 14:06 (seven years ago) link
why was pisspiggranddad suspended?
― 龜, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 20:32 (seven years ago) link
aggressive bullying of that shortass nazi idiot in berkeley iirc
the pepes flagged him
#freepisspig
― a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link
Based stickman or whatever? SheeshThe alt right continues to win Twitter
― The Jams Manager (1992, Brickster) (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link
the short dude who punched an anti-fascist woman in the face. think that's different than the one you mentioned
― a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link
A guy who hits women sounds exactly like Twitter's preferred customer so that makes sense
― The Jams Manager (1992, Brickster) (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link
tbf I think he thought there was going to be a melee and the only antifascist who was around his size to pair up against just happened to be a woman
― a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/berkeley-protest-video-of-woman-getting-punched-sparks-outrage/
So how many times does an unprofitable shit show of a company have to side with violent, misogynistic, racist bigots before the dirtbag left finds a better place to talk shit?
― The Jams Manager (1992, Brickster) (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link
we all moved over to mastodon last week
― a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:08 (seven years ago) link
pfft no one knows how to use mastodon
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link
just lean into the bass
― a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link
Down?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 19 May 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link
hacked?
i should have been suspicious when i had nothing new in my feed for a whole 20 minutes.
― evol j, Friday, 19 May 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link
deleted twitter off my phone last week, recommended. now i check facebook, ig, and my lol emails every 5 min to compensate, but they're so much more boring that i don't get sucked in for as long. also I'm pretty sure it's mostly residual muscle memory/nervous tic as I can already feel the reflex slowing down
― flopson, Friday, 19 May 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link
Down, looks like.
― Mark G, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
No problems here
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
Is better again.
― Mark G, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link
the most recognizable progressive publication in the country doesn't give a shit if you die. love our robust american left pic.twitter.com/IY6zPO8b1m— matt ◉ lubchansky (@Lubchansky) May 24, 2017
^ a good example of what i hate about twitter
― flopson, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
they're not wrong, though, mother jones has shit editorial direction now
one of the editors is among maybe five people I have muted because I get pissed off when I see people retweet her
― mh, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
the actual post: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/05/health-care-expensive-deal-it
― flopson, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link
that is tbf a deeply awful post
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
why?
he's not saying 'deal with it' to individuals unable to pay their health care bills, as the tweet implies. he's saying, in the context of the california single payer plan's cost, that it shouldn't be a surprise that health care is expensive. that's just a mean, shitty misreading that takes advantage of the fact that people won't read past the headline. he even adds "If we're lucky, a good single-payer system would slow the growth of health care costs over the long term, but it's vanishingly unlikely to actually cut current costs."
― flopson, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/686/Deal_with_it_dog_gif.gif
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
the framing is bad, and it ignores the fact that everything in the US, not paid by medicare, is paid in *terms* of medicare
the main negative articles coming out are talking about implementation plans, he went with a different tactic and tried to claim total costs won't be hot either. it's the same doomsaying talking point
also from a leftist standpoint emphasizing costs might be the same and just eliding the fact *people would be fucking covered for health care* is ridiculous
like for the same amount of money we could have everyone covered? fucking go for it
― mh, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link
if only the misleading and sensationalized headline hadn't been forced upon poor mother jones
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
idk it's one to be broken down on the healthcare thread. I hate potshots on twitter usually, but taking potshots at one of the few left publications in the US for being fucking defeatist, even in headlines, is bullshit
― mh, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link
lol thank you Mr. Spirals
― mh, Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:49 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that's what he's saying
― flopson, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link