Reese and Nicole and Laura and Audrey and Elvis: Thread for BIG LITTLE LIES on HBO

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was really cool to see kidman be so good again, i'd kind of forgotten how good she could be

really the whole cast was great\

<3 little ziggy

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 April 2017 19:05 (three years ago) link

My partner is a 2ndary school teacher and was *fuming* during those scenes and basically praying the teacher would be the murder victim

She teaches at a helicoptery place in the UK and found the parents quite realistic

How fucking awful that Laura gets stuck with that asshole st the end though

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 7 April 2017 19:08 (three years ago) link

Ums otm - they set everyone up as stereotypes so that they can shade them in more meaningfully as individuals as the story unfolds

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 April 2017 19:20 (three years ago) link

and yeah, the therapy scenes are so good. Y'all caught that the therapist is Robin Weigert aka Calamity Jane from Deadwood? I love her. She was great in Sons of Anarchy too. But I loved how direct but sensitive and compassionate she was as a therapist. And Kidman played those scenes so well.

props to Skarsgard too. I was a fan of him as eyecandy because he's so goddamn gorgeous, but I don't know that I've seen him play anything this layered and complicated before. Just goes to show how good material brings everyone to the party.

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 April 2017 19:57 (three years ago) link

Y'all caught that the therapist is Robin Weigert aka Calamity Jane from Deadwood?

i know! that was nuts, it was driving me crazy who she was the whole time, my wife told me this morning...just the characters are so different she's so buttoned up and rational in this role

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 April 2017 20:27 (three years ago) link

yeah it makes you appreciate what she had to do vocally and even physically to get to Calamity as a character

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 April 2017 21:00 (three years ago) link

omg I remember looking her up after Deadwood to see if I'd seen her in anything else. This was the first one, and I didn't even notice that it's her!

Sufjan Grafton, Friday, 7 April 2017 22:00 (three years ago) link

On episode 5, this show is also really funny in its breakdown of human behaviour

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Sunday, 9 April 2017 20:48 (three years ago) link

This was a really solid show

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Monday, 10 April 2017 20:44 (three years ago) link

i get why some people didn't like this; I got 'i'm not interested in privileged white people' a number of times. but I still thought it was good. things aren't bad just because they're about rich white people. fuck.

akm, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 00:02 (three years ago) link

anyone else think the soundtrack was like a boomer's dream come true? Mostly filtered through Chloe as well, which made me laugh..

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 00:15 (three years ago) link

that hurts, I'm only 40 ;_;

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 03:02 (three years ago) link

Ah VG, you're so awesome

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 19:55 (three years ago) link

A lot of it was still boomer music though

It's always (sunny successor), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 15:42 (three years ago) link

A couple of things:

Had Perry and Jane met before the fundraiser (besides the rape, of course)? I cant remember.

Also I was partly convinced the whole time that ed was going to be the killer. Just with the staring at Madeleine's oldest daughter then the quick looks away and whatnot. Seemed like something was going on there.

It's always (sunny successor), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 15:53 (three years ago) link

Also: Ziggy ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

It's always (sunny successor), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 15:55 (three years ago) link

Yeah I totally expected Ed to end up schtupping the stepdaughter, there were a lot of weird lingering looks & furtive glances between them

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 16:10 (three years ago) link

Don't think Perry and Jane met before the fundraiser

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:09 (three years ago) link

Has anyone read one of Liane Moriarty's books? Could def give one a go after this (I've read that it's a fairly literal adaptation)

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 20:10 (three years ago) link

Glad a thread was finally started for this series. I'd be lying if I said I didn't look forward to each episode of this more than anything else I've been watching for the last 2 months. Was really taking back with Kidman's performance.

Darin, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 23:52 (three years ago) link

i'm avoiding this thread but just saying I'M IN - feel sorry for nicole kidman's poor face, and for basically all the kids. really impressive how in just one episode they introduce reese witherspoon as this hateful hosebeast and by the end you just want to hug her and take her home. just finished ep 4 and i have an inchoate theory about the bullying but really no idea where this is all heading. excellent job sowing seeds of doubt and anxiety everyone, A+

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 09:48 (three years ago) link

my inchoate theory was OTM :)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 22:49 (three years ago) link

The parade of Audreys in the intro is creepy. You have those cute kids dancing and then it goes to that. Some weird backlit outdoors thing. Nicole Kidman looks mannish, showing off her adam's apple. At the end it blurs out and cuts off Perry. I wonder if it was just something they put together in a hurry, or if it was carefully planned out.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 12:54 (three years ago) link

i think it was all pretty planned out. i read they initially wrote the gala as happening inside, in a school gym, but changed it when they found that location (which is actually in LA)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 13:02 (three years ago) link

the parade of audreys after the kids doing the same was amazing wtf

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 3 May 2017 13:22 (three years ago) link

The credits end on the main character, cutting out before the bad guy - that seems purposeful surely?.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 13:22 (three years ago) link

laura dern in partic was hypnotic in that sequence xp

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 3 May 2017 13:22 (three years ago) link

holy heck this was good

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 May 2017 02:24 (three years ago) link

man a-list actresses get so much shit for one reason or another and then you watch reese witherspoon and nicole kidman take a tv role and realize they're just light years beyond even a decent tv actor.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 May 2017 02:46 (three years ago) link

my takeaway is how much better roles for women are when the actresses are producers on their own shit and/or collaborate with each other to make great content

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 May 2017 03:05 (three years ago) link

both last posts otm

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 4 May 2017 03:07 (three years ago) link

then you watch reese witherspoon and nicole kidman take a tv role and realize they're just light years beyond even a decent tv actor.

Kidman is reliably amazing basically all of the time but some of the best performances in any medium right now come courtesy of Leftovers and Americans actors

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 03:19 (three years ago) link

Great performances
I feel like I knew these characters almost too well though, like I got bored caring about Madeleine's problems (sorry Reese <3 u), maybe because I watched the whole thing in a few nights.
Great direction, little touches throughout
Less funny than I anticipated though and didn't shake the 'that kind of novel*' vibe.
Felt a bit like a beautiful distillation of mumsnet in a way. Enjoyed it enough though. My OH has been giving me the side-eye for recommending it though :/

*I don't know what you call this kind of novel, focusing on relationships/family/parenting/working mother/class issues - usually with big reveal at the end and someone innocent suffering for the good of others - but I don't think they're my thing, I usually guess the big reveal and get irritated by it. (I guessed one early on here, in part due to the extreme unlikeliness of certain roles acting in the ways depicted - and the other I found too pat.)

kinder, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 14:39 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

amazing to watch a series with a bone fide GOOD ENDING.

great performances. I don't have any preconceptions of Reece W but she's brilliantly, comically, subtle here. what a clever actress she is. kidman was a revelation. its just really great to watch excellent female characters and female actresses be basically the whole thing and the whole point but I agree with kinder there^ - we've had rich white women's stories a lot and i think it needed to breathe out a bit. or a lot.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 03:35 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Fucking great show, just finished. damn. Thought it started off real corny (the interstitials with the parents in the police station were really grating at first - also whoa, Todd Bridges)- but it went way further and into heavier terrain than I was expecting. Everyone was great in it. And yeah the ending ruled. No second season please. It was great.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 05:34 (two years ago) link

honestly, i feel that this show was amazingly thought out and structured, to the point where i think the early episodes purposefully cast all these people as the cardboard cutout stereotypes you're prepared to hate watch then slowly unfurls so much emotional and psychological depth.

Such a great observation, that is an excellent way of putting it. I watched it over 5 days, and as I watched the last couple episodes I thought about how much my perception of Reese's character especially had changed.

i think it's the only time i ever felt like a therapy session in a show or movie felt really authentic to me.


flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 05:51 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

amazed this thread isn't all about the insane wig that nicole kidman wears in every scene.

plax (ico), Thursday, 25 January 2018 07:28 (two years ago) link

So I just finished binge watching this and yeah it was pretty great. Not thrilled by the idea of a second season though as it was so satisfying as a whole, and because the director of S1 won't be helming it this time. But I guess the final shot of someone watching the women on the beach through binoculars was intended to set the scene for the second season (sorry for alliteration), even though they can't have known S2 was in the bag when they included that shot.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Friday, 2 February 2018 10:10 (two years ago) link

oh wait, that Vulture article explains that it was the policewoman watching them right at the end, because she suspects something's not quite right. I hadn't caught that.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Friday, 2 February 2018 10:19 (two years ago) link

I hope the second season isn't about them being re-trialled for what happened in the first. That way lies Broadchurch madness.

Also I don't know why but my head has confused elements of Big Little Lies and Logan Lucky. I guess they both have open-endings with strangely prescient detectives going "hmmmmmm..."

I loved this but is it too late to talk about how bad the high school internet sex plot was

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 2 February 2018 10:24 (two years ago) link

i loved this too but i am starting to be tire of the thrilling, televised escapades of the extremely rich (cf McMafia)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 February 2018 10:40 (two years ago) link

oh man that show is really bad compared to BLL

personally i dug the luxury porn and felt like the characters had some resemblance to people i knew, in spirit if not in wealth

also i used to live near monterey so it's beautiful nostalgia (although i guess mostly filmed in southern california?)

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 2 February 2018 11:01 (two years ago) link

i'm perpetually behind the times but i just watched all of this over the last few days. nicole kidman is just fantastic. i cried my guts out. the therapy scenes (especially the first session in episode 3) were so good that i said "this is some of the best television i have ever seen" out loud as i was watching it. i too am getting sick of extremely wealthy families and neighborhoods being the setting for so many creative works, and i'll spare everyone reading this my trite feelings on that because they've already been expressed upthread and it's a problem that many shows have, not just this one.

episode 3, though. that one just blew my mind. and somehow in the midst of all that wrenching turmoil rising to the surface, it was the "dreams" sequence in the van that tore me up more than anything. what a wonderful show.

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 February 2018 17:25 (two years ago) link

wow people really love this show. i thought it was just all right! potentially i just really dislike the director

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 17:27 (two years ago) link

also, when laura dern is one of the leads and she's not the first person you think of in terms of standout performances (and she was so good! god, that part where she throws the phone in the pool and then raises her hand up to signal to her partner that she's ok...she can do no wrong), you know you are in the presence of a ridiculously good ensemble

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 February 2018 17:28 (two years ago) link

the therapy scenes (especially the first session in episode 3) were so good that i said "this is some of the best television i have ever seen" out loud as i was watching it

otm this scene was absolutely extraordinary

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 5 February 2018 17:29 (two years ago) link

i may be a total weirdo but if the entire show was just 7 hours straight of those therapy scenes i'd still be happy. i'm not sure if anyone's mentioned how good the therapist is but she goes toe-to-toe with kidman, which is saying a hell of a lot.

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 February 2018 17:33 (two years ago) link

I think the fact that this wasn't all just about rich people problems helped alleviate a lot of the issues I might've otherwise had with the setting. It's mostly a very human story that could've been dropped into a different setting without losing a whole lot.

How does boy sound like? (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 February 2018 17:40 (two years ago) link

i'll stop serially posting, but it's interesting that those counseling scenes weren't in the book the show is based off of -

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 February 2018 17:41 (two years ago) link

honestly this show is just bad

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:43 (one year ago) link

I assumed that Madeline came clean to Ed offscreen. I mean you figure her confession to the police would probably get back to him.

The show wasn't mindblowing but my expectations were tempered from go and it was fine.

Y'all need to maybe see some legitimately bad tv or something, I think.

she didn't confess to the police?

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:46 (one year ago) link

Didn't she?

I wasn't clear whether she did confess or just went with Bonnie out of solidarity or something. (Like, does that mean Celeste also came clean? Even though she just fought a big battle to keep her kids?) I figured they would have shown Madeline talking to Ed about it, since it seemed like a big conversation to have considering their whole plot was about trust, and that Ed would not have been particularly receptive to "So, I know you gave me all those chances to come clean, but let me slip one last thing in here..."

blatherskite, Monday, 29 July 2019 18:57 (one year ago) link

bonnie didn't go with madeline to the police station?

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:06 (one year ago) link

i mean the other way around

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:06 (one year ago) link

like the text she sends "hey guys I'm confessing" happens at the time the ceremony is happening?

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:07 (one year ago) link

just seemed like a straight bit of dramatic irony "oh things are all happy and great with everyone (apart from bonnie)" oh no here comes this news to undercut it for all of them

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:07 (one year ago) link

didn't seem to me like things were happy and great for everyone, despite the resolution of some story lines. I thought the final scene of them going to the police station together to confess was the absolutely necessary ending, they needed to put all of the lies and related misery to rest

Dan S, Saturday, 10 August 2019 00:54 (one year ago) link

yeah these bitches needed to go to jail for killing that upstanding young man

akm, Saturday, 10 August 2019 17:36 (one year ago) link


Number None, Saturday, 10 August 2019 18:33 (one year ago) link

Won't read anything till I get through the rest, but I thought the first two episodes were fine--although I died a little when "Down by the River" was cut short after 30 seconds at the precise moment the volume should have been turned up.

clemenza, Sunday, 11 August 2019 03:38 (one year ago) link

Two episodes left. Streep is so creepy (Streepy?)--and definitely, at least in part, based on Kael.

clemenza, Monday, 12 August 2019 21:32 (one year ago) link

I liked most all of the second season. The finale for me was probably the weakest episode--not terrible, but a little pat in spots, and Dern with the baseball bat seemed redundant (her rage had been made quite clear by that point). Kidman is such a great actress sometimes. Streep, Dern, Witherspoon, even Adam Scott I'd say, all excellent. Somebody posted something earlier about Arnold having control taken away from her...I don't doubt it, but I've liked/loved three of her movies, and this seemed to fit with her earlier work.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 01:38 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

finale was trash, the entirety of the courtroom stuff was a joke

every time nicole kidman insisted on what a good mother she was i was like... wellllll...

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 October 2019 23:22 (ten months ago) link

Yeah! Obviously Streep was conniving and awful re: her son, but it's not like there wasn't cause for concern, from the pills to the slapping. (I haven't seen the show since it aired--did any character express more than a passing concern about all that? I mostly recall Witherspoon treating it like not that big of a deal.)

blatherskite, Thursday, 3 October 2019 23:38 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

i thought i had no interest in this show (rich white people, parenting, women who snipe at each other) but i actually really thought it was good! i thought S2 gave Bonnie a lot more depth and her moments of intrusive memories were very realistic. I also identified with her aimlessly walking through the woods looking dour.

and lil Ziggy <3 i figured whoever wrote the screenplay (and maybe the original author) had read Far From the Tree, where there is a long and difficult-to-read chapter about children of rape.

anyway, i enjoyed both seasons in spite of my original misgivings. the theme song grew on me too.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 20:28 (eight months ago) link

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