Better Call Saul

That wasn't a polos hermanos truck, that what one of Hectors. He as doing that for Gus.

And i figure he was giving them the sense that it was hunters so they wouldn't be suspicious hearing the shot on the way off.

I guess also maybe he was training his scope on them to try and gauge from their expressions whether his ruse was working xp

that whole scene was brilliant. the acting in this show is great too, but the entire thing has a feel and a world of its own that's just incredible, and similar to breaking bad. the colours, the timeshifts, the montages, the fact that the setpieces have a slight touch of ludicrousness to them, everything is in harmony.

yes sorry, i understood the firing in the air part of it -- and that he was encouraging them to think it was hunters so they wouldn't be suspicious if they heard the single final shot as they drove off

it was the training the scope on them that puzzled me, but yes, the scope is of course a telescope so it was a way of checking up on their responses after the first couple of shots (and you can't point the scope w/o the gun pointing underneath it)

to localgarda: yes, the joy for the viewer in these two series -- which is slightly a vicarious psychopath's joy i suspect -- is how funny a lot of it is, even as objectively ghastly things are happening, absurdist schemes, slapstick tableaux, a ghastly layer of life as an intricate sitcom

Its interesting that he had his binoculars with him too. But I guess with the scope he had the option of shooting them if things got out of hand.

I mean, if you're in a situation that could go wrong and lead to your life being in danger, you want a backup plan. And his backup plan is actually shooting Hector's goons.

Mike as the competent man archetype is one of my favorite things so far

Jimmy describing Chuck's likely demise on the curb was such a great shot/moment (Chuck clenching his fists in the out-of-focus background). Ulysses prediction upthread re: Chuck forcing Jimmy to give up the family name in lieu of charges, looks likely but I suspect Chuck actually dying will tie into it as well. Both Chuck and Kim have to be taken out of the picture somehow...

I would love for Kim and Jimmy to reconnect in Omaha.

Viktor and Giselle riding off into the sunset at the end of the last season.

I feel like there's the possibility of some Jimmy/Chuck reconciliation, but Chuck completely had that coming.

he had something coming, but that was such a knife to the guts. bb and better call saul are so good at creating characters who do horrible things but still feel entirely sympathetic.

yes, the joy for the viewer in these two series -- which is slightly a vicarious psychopath's joy i suspect -- is how funny a lot of it is, even as objectively ghastly things are happening, absurdist schemes, slapstick tableaux, a ghastly layer of life as an intricate sitcom

there's a comic feeling to the colours and light and stuff - like just a slight sense of unreality. i remember a friend criticising breaking bad for being "far-fetched" which seems like a colossal misunderstanding. but you know, obv something like the wire got praised so much for being realistic, because it branded itself such and tried to be so, despite some characters whose actual behaviour and personalities along with the performances of the actors are completely farcical in that context.

<3 Kim's bedhead.

I caught up with the insider podcast. I could listen to vince gilligan speak for hours (and apparently, so could he). I didn't clock that the doctor who gives mike the meth is the same one who took in gus & mike after the cartel poisoning!

I just got to see a bit of w/ Bob & David cos it turned up on netflix. Does it get any better?
Had wanted to see Odenkirk in something outside the role I mainly know him from. So hoping he did do some good stuff elsewhere.

I haven't heard anything good about that one but I recommend going back & watching mr show, the original sketch show they did

parts of w/ bob and david are great but i think i mainly enjoyed it mostly in the spirit of "hooray there's more mr. show"

og run of mr. show one of the greatest shows of all time ofc

The original run of Mr. Show is genius and one of the greatest things ever. It's a keystone of contemporary comedy.

Yep...also maybe worth noting that one law-school sketch with Odenkirk and McKean

i loved the old mr. show. i was not able to get through the first episode of bob and david, and i do not plan on trying again.

he's all over tim and eric's stuff, the show, movies, shorts, etc. he also guest starred as Rev. Richie Porter on an episode of the NBC "sitcom" Ed in 2001, and that sounds hilariously bad

Man u guys are harsh on the last bob n david eps! There was some great stuff in there (dry cleaners/house the musical esp)

Seriously. W/Bob & David had about the same hit/miss ratio as Mr. Show.

kim helping jimmy is super out of character. and her representing him is even weirder!

also not sure if it's just because i'm watching 30 rock at the same time so everything looks slow in comparison but the pace of this season really seems to have slowed to a crawl.

Loved last night's episode.

1) the contamination ad on TV when when Mike goes to his daughter's for lasagna, fearing that he has contaminated her new safe-house with the visit

2) parking lot shot with yellow striped gate behind them angled according to Gus's sight-line, increasing in intensity as it appears to penetrate and "see" through Mike or into his heart

Actually hoping next ep is actually an hour-long legal procedural as teased

At the end of the opening scene, when Hector is standing there in his Fringèd humiliation, who else heard the wind chime going ding ding ding ding?

ha nice

kim helping jimmy is super out of character.
― k3vin k., Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:03 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If by that you mean helping him with one of his schemes, then I agree. How could what they did with Mike have been legal? Why would Kim go in for that? Plus, I don't yet see how those photos could be used in a legal proceeding without Chuck figuring out what they did.

That said, I really enjoyed this episode.

if anything could turn someone to illegal activity, it's the necessary and just ratfucking of Chuck

her representing him seems out of character too! not a lawyer but isn't it considered unethical to represent a family member?

wait are they married, i forget. anyway, a loved one

they're on-again, off-again but they're at the very least business partners now

I think their actual relationship status is "doomed to failure"

can anyone work out what kim and jimmy are up to? dunno if i'm being dense or if it's not possible to know just yet.

It seems impossibly unfathomable, but that's what I like about it. As already mentioned, the covertly taken photos pose more problems than they solve.

it seems like they're going to paint Chuck as unstable or mentally ill? it sounded like Kim recorded Chuck admitting he set Jimmy up in regards to the break-in -- who's to say that Jimmy didn't admit to something he didn't do in order to soothe his mentally ill brother?

obviously Chuck is a danger to himself with the gas lantern on top of newspapers, his seclusion, and his medically improbable condition. it makes sense Jimmy would lie about falsifying something dumb in order to make him feel better. so Chuck comes off as paranoid, and Jimmy seems at the end of his rope when it comes to caring for his ill brother. the contents of the tape become suspect, and his admission of guilt had nothing to do with falsifying documents

the admission of guilt in court -- the legal proceedings had nothing to do with the tape, and it won't even be heard by the bar because Chuck acted unethically to make it

This thing about Kim being in on the scheme is nagging at me. Earlier in the series she was practically begging Jimmy to clean up his act, and insisting that if he ever do something illegal again, he can't tell her (this was after he revealed that he manufactured evidence--the peach cobbler tape--to help out Mike and his hapless pharma-nerd associate).

Now she's fully in on a plan that involves impersonating Chuck's assistant on the phone, sending someone into Chuck's house under false pretenses to take photos without his knowledge, and who knows what else. We've seen her enjoy being in on a con before, but for her to suddenly be comfortable doing so as a lawyer is new and abrupt.

Unless, of course, everything in that episode is completely legal. But that would surprise me.

jimmy drags everyone down into shit with him, which is the one thing chuck is kind of right about

Sure, and I'm not opposed to that direction for the character. As I said, there's precedent. But it seems like there's been a transition with Kim that should have been shown, rather than just presented as having happened sometime between this episode and the last.

it sounded like Kim recorded Chuck admitting he set Jimmy up in regards to the break-in -- who's to say that Jimmy didn't admit to something he didn't do in order to soothe his mentally ill brother?

I thought it was also notable that there was the implication the judge who was brought in might be sympathetic to Chuck. She had that aside where she mentioned someone who was sensitive to high-pitched noises in her extended circle. Is everyone going to be as sympathetic to Chuck's condition, or believe him?

I wouldn't put it past Jimmy to have a prior doctor's report in his back pocket where someone had deemed Chuck's condition as psychosomatic. Rather than believe them and seek treatment, he's gone down the rabbit hole with his perceived illness to the point he's actively endangering his well-being

It's never been explicitly tackled, but past Chuck had obsessive-compulsive tendencies when he had a partner, and I wouldn't doubt some psychologist pegged his condition on his need for complete control of his environment. When he's lacked control over Jimmy or felt his standing with the firm was threatened, he has been better enough to go into the office, use a tape recorder, or steal a newspaper when deprived of his own

I think the fact that Chuck emphasized that there is a lower standard of evidence admissibility for the bar hearing is setting things up for it to cut both ways. They are going to use that standard against him.

Yeah, my general thought (although I'm not sure what steps it'll take to get there) is that Jimmy is angling for Chuck's disbarment.

I think it's a long shot but I'd probably stand up and applaud if he gets Chuck disbarred

more likely to die i'd say

I wouldn't put it past Jimmy to have a prior doctor's report in his back pocket where someone had deemed Chuck's condition as psychosomatic

He does, doesn't he? From the time Chuck was hospitalized in Season One?

Die because he gets disbarred is my vote. He doesn't have much else going.

SO good. This show just keeps getting better and better.

And yeah . . . FUCK Chuck.

Chuck completely breaking, ranting, turns to the panel and they're just staring

beautiful