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Also, "The Unstoppable Wasp" is cute (and ties into the same backstory as Black Widow); though it's so gentle as to barely even qualify as a "superhero" comic. The series promotes STEM education for girls / young women -- both in the story itself and back-of-book material (several women scientists/engineers are interviewed at the end of each issue) -- which is an interesting angle, even if not very relevant to me personally (an older dude who's bad at math).

morrisp, Sunday, 30 April 2017 01:59 (seven years ago) link

Also...no mentions of Squirrel Girl?

How many gigabyte is in trilobites (Old Lunch), Sunday, 30 April 2017 03:27 (seven years ago) link

Did USG mean Unbeatable Squirrel Girl?

Frederik B, Sunday, 30 April 2017 06:37 (seven years ago) link

Doreen is chill

a landlocked exclave (mh), Sunday, 30 April 2017 06:53 (seven years ago) link

USG did mean Unbeatable Squirrel Girl. I haven't read Patsy Walker yet, but it's in the hopper. I tried the Riri Williams Iron Man (Iron Heart?) line too, but Bendis's racial blundering put me off.

remy bean, Sunday, 30 April 2017 12:25 (seven years ago) link

Check out the "L.A. Woman" volume of Matt Fraction's HAWKEYE run (it's the book with Kate's adventures in L.A.).

morrisp, Sunday, 30 April 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

(There's also a current/ongoing series featuring Kate, but I have not read it. Waiting for the TPB.)

morrisp, Sunday, 30 April 2017 18:58 (seven years ago) link

Is that where should I start w/ Kate Hawkeye? The Fraction TP? I haven't really ventured into the Avengers universe except for incidentally. The sheer amount of history and number of different titles are pretty intimidating. I don't, frankly, know anything about Hawkeye except that he shacked up with Bobbi Morse, that Jeremy Renner plays him in the MCU, that he wears a t-shirt and has a dog, and that sometimes he is a woman.

rb (soda), Sunday, 30 April 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

also he was dead for a while, is from Iowa, and has a villain brother named Barney

hawkeye series is good, it has comedy russian mobsters and a dog

a landlocked exclave (mh), Sunday, 30 April 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

OT: how do you guys do that thing where you make a humorous pseudonym appear next to your (login handle)?

morrisp, Sunday, 30 April 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

site preferences, under "profile" it's the "display name" you can set

a landlocked exclave (mh), Sunday, 30 April 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link

Thx!

retconned out of existence (morrisp), Sunday, 30 April 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

good pick

a landlocked exclave (mh), Sunday, 30 April 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

also he was dead for a while

He was also deaf for a while (which plays a role in the Fraction series a bit).

retconned out of existence (morrisp), Sunday, 30 April 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link

As a partially deaf person, I love a "conveniently deaf until everyone forgets" style recovery

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 30 April 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link

I'm sure paraplegics were equally thrilled with Professor X's on again/off again disability.

How many gigabyte is in trilobites (Old Lunch), Sunday, 30 April 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link

Kate is really good in the Gillen/McKelvie Young Avengers book as well.

Frederik B, Sunday, 30 April 2017 22:33 (seven years ago) link

Hawkeye (almost wrote Popeye) started out wearing a purple miniskirt and nobody ever questioned it, which I thought was very progressive.

20-lol pileup (WilliamC), Sunday, 30 April 2017 22:43 (seven years ago) link

(x-posts)

There's a klassic FF panel in which Alicia Masters -- Ben Grimm's blind girlfriend -- reads a newspaper.

retconned out of existence (morrisp), Sunday, 30 April 2017 22:51 (seven years ago) link

surely a trap to solicit no-prize letters

a landlocked exclave (mh), Monday, 1 May 2017 00:33 (seven years ago) link

Can someone familiar with "Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows" explain the ontological status of that particular Peter & Mary Jane? It seemed like their story was just another "What If?" concept when they appeared in Secret Wars, but somehow they stuck around and got their own series(?)

Are they established to live in a different "universe" (as with Spider-Gwen or any of the many other alternate Spiderverse-folks)?

retconned out of existence (morrisp), Friday, 5 May 2017 04:36 (six years ago) link

No such thing really because the last Hickman event collapsed pretty much all Marvel Universes into 616,

And then Spider-verse and the Great Web makes it all moot anyway because it established all the Spider-mans all exist in all the MUus. So they have been in 616, still might be and could always have been.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Friday, 5 May 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link

aldo, no... it didn't. the very end was Franklin Richards channeling the Molecule Man's power to recreate a bunch of other universes, so the multiverse is different but extant

the Spider-Verse is still a thing: Spider-Woman, Spider-Gwen, and Silk had a three book crossover that is old enough it just wrapped up on Marvel Unlimited. involved people infiltrating from Spider-Gwen's world to 616 to steal tech, and had a male Jessica (Jesse) Drew

a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

afaict the "Renew Your Vows" post-Secret Wars series is an alternate universe series that implies the Parker family explored in SW is still having adventures in some sliver of the new multiverse

a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

the tangle that is contemporary spider man continuity is really amazing; only matched by superman in its spectacularly unnecessarily convoluted imperviousness to logic

(all allusions intentional i'm sure)

re: Hawkeye's deafness, didn't Tony give him some supertech cochlear implants or something similar?

her squamous hamhocks (DJP), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

probably

I was thinking he got his hearing back after Wanda brought him back, but no... after the bad comics post-Onslaught, he was recreated with his hearing.

I think I just realized a stupid way they could resolve Secret Empire, urgh

a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link

that is, the problem with Steve Rogers having "always been HYDRA" or whatever

nothing's going to resolve the poorly-conceived story telling

a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link

and then The Clown deafened him again during Fraction's run

her squamous hamhocks (DJP), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link

completely forgot or didn't read that

a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link

http://www.avclub.com/article/hawkeye-19-uses-deafness-help-broken-clint-barton--207612

IMO this issue rivaled the Pizza Dog issue

her squamous hamhocks (DJP), Friday, 5 May 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

The pizza dog issue was great, but then they kinda weakened it by going over the same events "for real this time" (i.e., from the human characters' p.o.v.) later.

retconned out of existence (morrisp), Friday, 5 May 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

<i>the Spider-Verse is still a thing: Spider-Woman, Spider-Gwen, and Silk had a three book crossover that is old enough it just wrapped up on Marvel Unlimited. involved people infiltrating from Spider-Gwen's world to 616 to steal tech, and had a male Jessica (Jesse) Drew</i>

That crossover started with Spider-Woman and Silk literally popping over to Spider-Gwen's universe for lunch (and then getting "stuck there") -- that's how easily permeated the line is in the Marvel multiverse these days, it's pretty funny.

retconned out of existence (morrisp), Friday, 5 May 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

Reading a great collection of Dr. Strange stuff from '68-'74 or so. Gardner Fox, Englehart, tons of robert e. howard/lovecraft stuff, v fun. Opens w a couple issues of Gene Colan art that are fantastic.

Οὖτις, Friday, 5 May 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

Sounds great -- Amazon link(?)

retconned out of existence (morrisp), Friday, 5 May 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link

Thought the first issue of Secret Empire was better than expected. Might have been okay as a standalone summer crossover instead of a 3-year-long epic. But at least it'll be over soon.

In other news, I read Revolutionary War, which was Marvel UK's equivalent of the Sleeper/Bluetones reunion tour - I think it came out in 2014? Anyway, it's dumb fun and is a definable story with a beginning and end (remember those?). If it's the sort of thing you like, you'll like it. God knows why but I still have a v. sentimental attachment to Death's Head. (The first one, not Death's Head II, you monsters.)

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 5 May 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

Marvel's generally not giving a fuck about long-term continuity and the consistency of its parallel universes is, I think, one of its strengths.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 5 May 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

the tangle that is contemporary spider man continuity is really amazing; only matched by superman in its spectacularly unnecessarily convoluted imperviousness to logic

― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, May 5, 2017 9:40 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's actually shockingly straightforward*! Spider-Verse was astoundingly coherent, given the millions of balls it was juggling.

*If, at least, you consider the period since Mephisto reset Spidey's reality as its own discrete thing separate from what came before.

Jigsaw Pizzle (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 May 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link

first issue in the collection is here

including hilariously gratuitous Tom Wolfe cameo:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-C4z0Cn4w8Go/Tv-2DQhepoI/AAAAAAAAbAU/pRzpr7FCnGU/s1600/DrStrange-18010.jpg

Οὖτις, Friday, 5 May 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

Haha, wtf (and where's the famous white suit, at the cleaners?)

retconned out of existence (morrisp), Friday, 5 May 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

Circling back to Spidey -- while the fact that they "undid" Peter & MJ's marriage, via the Mephisto thing, is a nonstarter to me; I'm also not interested in reading "Renew Your Vows" (which you'd think would be giving me exactly "what I want"). So I guess there's no degree of "fan service" that will suffice in this case (at least for this "fan") -- and maybe that's unfair. (But in my defense, I read the first ish of the Secret Wars "RYV" and it was really bad.)

retconned out of existence (morrisp), Friday, 5 May 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link

hee hee 'millions of balls'

finger my 60s Soul Pie (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 May 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

yeah, marvel did a thing that month across some of their books where journalists had little cameos - hunter s thompson showed up in avengers, woodward and bernstein were in fantastic four and lester bangs was in amazing spider-man iirc

finger my 60s Soul Pie (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 May 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

It's actually shockingly straightforward*! Spider-Verse was astoundingly coherent, given the millions of balls it was juggling.

*If, at least, you consider the period since Mephisto reset Spidey's reality as its own discrete thing separate from what came before.


This footnote (which I was honestly unaware of!) says a lot about the level of expectations necessary to consider spidey's current continuity "coherent"

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 May 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

Any residual patience I have with Bendis these days comes from my appreciation with him being the last person to do spidey right (in ultimate)
Slott is horrible imo

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 May 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

Heck even miles has been okay this far until the recent poorly considered Claremontesque soap opera direction

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 May 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link

it's not that hard -- again, you can grasp all the basics about Spider-Man and pick up on the few minor changes like his job, current girlfriend, etc and just read an issue where he's stopping a villain and it's fine. it's the issues that are based completely on some aspect of past events, not just using them as a framing mechanism for the story being told, that are completely broken for new readers

a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 5 May 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

To be clearer, I guess I am not saying it's "difficult to follow" so much as I am saying "it is dumb and bad"

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 May 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link


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