Amazon Kindle (ebook thingy)

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Yeah, i always break the DRM on stuff i buy, so can read on ipad without amazon monitoring/monetising my reading, and so can keep book if amazon deletes or changes it. Had to do the same thing as calzino and get an old version of the kindle software. You need go tell it to not check for updates, too, otherwise it keeps updating itself to the new calibre-frustrating version.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 30 April 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Anyone else can't watch certain youtube videos on their kindle? It's been like this for months and I fucking hate it, none of the directions to fix it seem to work.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 21 May 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

"Also a feed tube pusher for a cuisinart but that's another story."

yes but I think this is a story that needs to be told so we can understand the depths of your criminal malice

akm, Sunday, 21 May 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

I pay for some e-books but I'm honestly using it mostly to read shit that is out of print or otherwise unavailable (like loads of dr who target novelizations etc; I'm not going to go pay $400 for Lungbarrow on the second hand market). most of them are formatted pretty shittily.

akm, Sunday, 21 May 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

Man, Lungburrow shouldn't be read at any price

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 21 May 2017 23:55 (six years ago) link

I read it a couple of months ago (via OCR on Kindle) and it's kinda fun. Approximately 100x better than Cat's Cradle.

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Monday, 22 May 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

the vonnegut book? are you insane?

Also, a question: why in the world doesn't amazon make digital versions free when you buy a hardcopy?

akm, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link

Books with multiple translations are a fucking nightmare to buy on the Kindle store - they just get listed together as different versions so the cheapest that pops up first is some badly formatted public domain shit.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

translations editions of any kind are a fucking nightmare to buy on the Kindle store - they just get listed together as different versions so the cheapest that pops up first is some badly formatted public domain shit.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

p. true of any kind of book with a complicated publication history, kindle or no - amazon's catalog management is really garbage for such a ~cutting edge~ company

j., Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

It isn't right that you get free mp3 downloads with physical music purchases and these rapacious fucks are charging twice for a book.

xxp otm, Cat's Cradle is classic.

calzino, Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

why in the world doesn't amazon make digital versions free when you buy a hardcopy?

This. Been driving me nuts. I still fetishize paper copies and like to have certain books on a shelf, ready to be rediscovered - and yet I do most of my reading on a kindle in the dark so as not to wake up my wife. Why can't I have both

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 26 June 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

Re: why not physical + digital packages for books, this link is from Reddit, but has a lot of enlightening input from people who work for publishers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/1xtpee/why_dont_publishers_include_a_free_digital_copy/#bottom-comments

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 26 June 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

I usually, er, "source" a MOBI file online if I've bought a book and send it to my phone and Kindle. (It's easier to get away with reading at work that way.) (Also I can use my Kindle version to carry on reading in the dark when my partner's asleep.)

It's obvs v. difficult to source stuff if it's not popular lit, though.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 26 June 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link

http://bookos-z1.org/?signAll=1

this is an excellent dd source for back-up mobis/epubs etc

calzino, Monday, 26 June 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

I usually end up buying a digital copy if it's a favorite book and I know I'll read it more than a couple times... it's not like I haven't bought a lot of my favorite albums four or five times. Of course this is usually after I've read a pirated digital copy and established the publisher didn't do a shitty OCR job and include jpegs of the book illustrations that are like 3MB each.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 26 June 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

is there any reason not to upgrade windows calibre to v. 3.3?

j., Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

just started running, for some reason (since i just got it), 2.85.1.

j., Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

I might be behind the times here, but I thought all versions of Calibre beyond 1.17 don't let you strip DRM from Amazon purchases.

calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

That is the Kindle for PC app version that introduces better drm

koogs, Sunday, 9 July 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

ah yeah, getting it all mixed up!

calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link

I'm on Calibre 3.1.1 and have no problems

groovypanda, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link

Me too, but I have problems. Not with Calibre, just in general.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

bit of a scare earlier when my kindle-for-pc auto-updated to the new version with the default new amz format. the last 4 books i'd bought hadn't been converted for my kobo. but i just reinstalled 1.17 and quickly used that before it had a chance to re-update (and turned off the update option).

(i only boot into windows once every couple of months, mainly to do exactly this)

koogs, Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

I hope the update option stays off and behaves itself when I make a purchase later this month.

calzino, Thursday, 5 October 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

I don't know if it has filled my computer with trojans + spyware, but I tried the 14 day trial free version of Epubor DRM Removal for a protected epub that calibre couldn't deal with and it worked perfectly.

calzino, Sunday, 5 November 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

Did you use the Apprentice Alf plugins in Calibre? They usually work for stripping DRM. Does Epubor do the same thing?

NI, Sunday, 5 November 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

The plugins on Calibre didn't work on this particular ebook file, but I just dragged and dropped it into Epubor and instantly it created a DRM free version.

calzino, Sunday, 5 November 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

it's using stock images for its 'customer' photos. but i'm not sure if that's enough not to trust it.

http://www.nataliantonovich.com/photography/ln/eng/photostock-image/10846?d0=photostock&d1=0a07a802_9756_4b79_9173_057daaedfa5f&renderAction=original

koogs, Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

spent a couple of hours last night trying to get adobe digital editions installed because when i synced the kobo the other day it updated some epubs and i was curious about what it had changed. no joy. it wouldn't let me authorise the computer, wouldn't let me unauthorise the computer.

tried it again this morning and it worked first time. there was chatter on the web about their auth server having problems.

anyway, what they'd changed in the one epub, i think, was to make the cover image shitty. it's 1/5th the file size of the original and it shows.

amazon daily deals have been rocking it recently, have bought 5 in the last fortnight.

koogs, Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

Like what?

Bazooka Jobim (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

Oh, “fortnight.” You must be Britishes. Never mind

Bazooka Jobim (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

yeah we say two sennights

erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

Lol.

Bazooka Jobim (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

(of mice and men, we have always lived in the castle, (alan partridge's) nomad, the most recent rebus, ready player one, the martian. and there are a couple of vonneguts i fancy in the current monthly deal)

koogs, Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

(it's not letting me see the american version of the daily deals so i can't compare. there is tons of the usual shovelware in the uk version but there are also seams of quality from time to time.

odd to see this prominent in the US lists - he was in the year above me at school, lived opposite my gran:
https://www.amazon.com/Fragile-Thing-thriller-Kevin-Wignall-ebook/dp/B01N9SZBL2/ref=sr_1_19 )

koogs, Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

I like my kindle, but recently I have been reading actual books again, and I find I get through them much faster.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

Daily Deals in Australia are universally awful: just an endless stream of self-published balls

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 5 November 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

huh, apparently amazon updated the send to kindle add-on because mine is working again in firefox

j., Monday, 18 December 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link

Can anyone recommend good Amazon Fire games for 9 year olds? Paid or otherwise?

Thx

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Sunday, 24 December 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link

Actually, just paid ones will suffice - after three minutes looking at these things all the 'free' ones are cancer

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Sunday, 24 December 2017 11:59 (six years ago) link

My 11-year-old played Geometry Dash from about age 7 until now.

DJI, Sunday, 24 December 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

Since this thread is bumped, just curious... is kobo still in business?

twitter feed sez so

j., Sunday, 24 December 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

I've recently read a few ebooks on my phone, can't really see myself buying a Kobo or similar ebook reader - phone did a pretty good job imo, and I almost always have it on me, very easy to sync etc

niels, Monday, 25 December 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste) at 11:59 24 Dec 17

Actually, just paid ones will suffice - after three minutes looking at these things all the 'free' ones are cancer
Amazon Underground is pretty decent. All the apps on it are free with all in-app purchases unlocked.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 12:14 (six years ago) link

Okay that is actually quite cool. cheers

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Thursday, 28 December 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

I knew nothing about this but seems all is not well in the world of Kindle Unlimited.

From another forum:

There are massive goings-on in publishing atm. As a reader, you may not think this affects you, but it does - it's turning the bestseller charts into complete nonsense.

It all kicked off with #Cockygate - where one romance author called Faleena Hopkins trademarked the word 'cocky' and then started issuing cease & desist letters to any author using the word, plus contacted Amazon and others instructing them to remove the books due to trademark infringement, then attempted to get a restraining order against those protesting. Others have followed suit and tried trademarking other, common words - 'Dragon Slayer' being one.

While this went on, #Tiffanygate emerged - an author called Chance Carter offering jewellery to anyone leaving reviews for his books. This is totally against Amazon's T&Cs, and something they've been feebly trying to clamp down on. He was revealed as a 'book stuffer', and that's when things really kicked off.

The route of most of the scams is Kindle Unlimited - where the reader pays a monthly subscription to access or 'borrow' over a million books. The money went into a pot out of which Amazon paid out per book purchased. Which meant that books of 100,000 words or 100 words earned exactly the same.

Strangely, some really, really short books popped up. Single novels were chopped down to a-book-per-chapter.

In order to stop the scammers, Amazon changed their payment system to per page read.

The scammers then inserted dodgy links and gobbledegook into the 'books' to increase their payout.

Amazon did the bare minimum to stop this.

In response, the scammers starting stuffing their books with extra books, some previously published, some bought from ghostwriters, and instructed their followers to flick through all of these. Explained here, but there could be up to twenty or more in there.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfTLKp1U0AAvZSB.jpg:large

They also paid them to leave gushing reviews, using the massive payouts they were receiving from KU and from being 'All Stars' for being so popular. B-|

How does this affect the reader - they get free books? Several ways:
- the stuffed books are usually low quality and poorly edited, if at all.
- the Top 100 charts are so full of bookstuffers, that genuine authors aren't visible (Amazon's algorithms ensure KU books have higher visibility).
- most of the scammers aren't who they say they are (e.g. Santino Hassell, supposedly a gay male from a troubled background who was actually a middle-class couple), and there's been some really awful disclosure of personal details and doxxing of those who've tried to uncover the scams. Men pretending to be women asking for details of how their followers lost their virginity. Really creepy stuff.
- for greater visibility, these books also pop up in every possible genre. They're everywhere.
- many popular authors have had enough of their payouts dropping so have withdrawn their books from KU. Bookstuffers take their places. And so on.

Therefore, the reader suffers too.

There's a summary of the above here, showing how it's been polluting the romance genre, though it's believed it's affecting others:

davidgaughran.com/2018/06/02/cockygate-faleena-hopkins-tiffanygate-chance-carter/

(btw, the transcript of the first court case is hilarious in parts)

More detail about KU and the scams here: chrisalmeida-ceciliaaubrey.com/288-getloud-and-stayloud

And what are Amazon doing? Very little. It's not affected their bottom line as they're not seeing the readers' frustration. Authors have tried complaining, but they do nothing. A few scammers have been hit, but they have masses of different names and accounts. A load of reviewers and bloggers have been hit, but none of the main offenders, and lots of innocents have been dragged in, their reviews deleted and accounts closed.

Amazon have confirmed that 10% or less should be material not part of the book. In response, the scammers are now calling their books, 'compilations'. This is still not permitted as the books are duplicated elsewhere, but muddies the waters enough.

It's a fucking mess.

Anyway, if you're reading digital books and you come across anything that doesn't look right, report it to the bookseller. Report it here. Don't just think how weird it is and ignore it - that's what I did before I understood how the scam works.
If there's a book in the wrong category, report it.
If there's suspicious reviews, report it.
Review the books you read, and try to do it truthfully - reviews are appreciated and the real ones are easy to spot.
And don't rely on the bestseller charts - if scammers haven't manipulated them, publishers or booksellers will have.

groovypanda, Friday, 15 June 2018 07:04 (five years ago) link

If they're shitty, unedited books, who are their followers that page through the books to build their numbers?

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 15 June 2018 07:20 (five years ago) link


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