thread for ppl who aren't watching Twin Peaks Season 3

criticizing the larger culture/market/audience instead of the actual product eh

welcome to the black lodge

this also crosses over into the sickness that is binge-watching

actually they are going with a classic weekly rollout with this new season

what i love is how this isn't about twin peaks

Your critical concerns in that arena have some merit, Whiney, but I wonder sometimes if you remember laughter.

https://media.giphy.com/media/zDblGyoaNqwLu/giphy.gif

i look fwd to seeing this series for free someday, but i'd bet most of the costume ppl watch no other weird filmmakers' stuff, just MARVEL movies.

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, May 22, 2017 11:01 AM (fifteen minutes ago)

How much would this bet be, and are you talking Monopoly money or real money?

Remember when a band called themselves "Twin Peaks" and websites covered them instead of laughing at them

whiney you'd be into this the soundtrack is 90 percent static drones

can't wait to read 700 thinkpieces about it

How much would this bet be

i've seen more Bushwick millennials at close range than you have; trust me

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&ictx=2&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikrcTJ8IPUAhVLRCYKHbbOBpsQPQgD#hl=en&q=%22how+twin+peaks%22

can't wait to read 700 thinkpieces about it

― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 22, 2017 9:21 AM (thirty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree that the context in which this show is airing sucks

it is best to focus on the thing and not the fans, as with Jesus or Fight Club

Just let the resurgent phenomenon die out on its own. The casual fans will drift away as soon as they recognize Lynch's steadfast resistance to giving them what they want.

https://cnet3.cbsistatic.com/img/7TzPMbcPZ2GB0Hr0v2Moy7-qfPs=/fit-in/970x0/2017/03/16/7a165371-3961-4652-b4a4-59792d28b3f3/feliciamst3k2.jpg

https://www.google.com/search?q=rollingstone.com+twin+peaks&oq=rollingstone.com+twin+peaks&aqs=chrome..69i57.3591j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

"I don't want to know anything when I go into a theater. I like to discover it, get into that world, try to get as good of picture and sound as possible, no interruptions – so you can have an experience. And anything that putrefies that is not good."

man, dude not into liveblogging

I'm into that method

i can kind of see where OP is coming from, the marketing and social media aspects of this revival are kind of cheapening it to some degree, but that really doesn't matter when Lynch is given a budget and full artistic control.

imagine if Seinfeld came back and Larry David could do whatever he wanted, people would be psyched. a perfect storm of 90s nostalgia and tv idolization. but it doesn't really matter, it's just marketing, they have always had this for any tv show. it will pass. what does annoy me is people saying "casuals" unironically. as if there is some hierarchy to you understanding Twin Peaks by watching more of it or reading more about it. i don't think that is necessarily the case nor the way Lynch structures the symbolism in his works. he works on a subconscious level, his symbolism is instantly spellbinding on a moment to moment basis, it is not dependent on narrative or linear cohesion. anyone who has seen his last 2 movies would know this. i'm most excited for the casuals who are just bandwagoning tbh.

are you literally posting "what if seinfeld present day" tho

Lunch was, uh, six dollars and thirty-one cents at the Lamplighter Inn, that's on Highway Two near Lewis Fork. That was a tuna fish sandwich on whole wheat, slice of cherry pie, and a cup of coffee. But if you want a good cronut and macchiato, brother

"Diane, it struck me again earlier this morning, there are two things that continue to trouble me. And I'm speaking now not only as an agent of the Bureau but also as a human being. Why were the anime nazis so quick to adopt Pepe, a cartoon frog invented by a liberal cartoonist?"

Also Diane is the memos app on his iPhone

What if it turned out that he sent all of his tapes to the Cheers set and Shelley Long ultimately had to take out a restraining order against him?

so in that alternate universe you would have posted a thread declaring you are not watching the new Seinfeld?

if Seinfeld came back and Larry David could do whatever he wanted

tbf this already happened

I mean, for all of Seinfeld's transgressive and revolutionary things, it was still, for a good five years, one of the most popular television shows on the planet.

Twin Peaks was a cult phenomenon being elevated by time and probably, through no small measure, by the type of traditonally privileged people who inherited all the media jobs. This feels more like if Husker Du reunited and the media went on an all-points bulletin

Smiths would probably be a better comparison

This feels more like if Husker Du reunited and the media went on an all-points bulletin

I look forward to your day job totally ignoring their forthcoming Numero Group box set.

there are some similarities between this thread and the things that it's criticizing

Twin Peaks was a top rated show during its first season. It was not Freaks and Geeks-level cult.

lol also KM otm

xp

it's also been hugely influential on subsequent shows - X-Files, Sopranos, Mad Men, etc.

but you know all this shit Whiney

(also Seinfeld was garbage fyi)

Thanking u for the information.

If you like films tho, David Lynch films... are good

I feel like this thread sentiment would have shone as a single post in the garbage thread "things you just don't care about" but I understand that a whiney gets parched and I 100% genuinely endorse the bad sociology

I'm in this club but I'm sure I'll get around to seeing it in ten years or so

whiney should go full seinfeld and open up any future criticism/analysis product with a more polished version of himself workshopping this hot topic shirt material on ilx

Also, I think there's gonna be like a different indie rock band in the Bang Bang Bar every week, like Flaming Lips stopping by the Peach Pit on 90210

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJC6GWZGswY

David Lynch is great though, and season 1 of Twin Peaks was such a great run of episodes. the nostalgia comes from that (not S2, when the network got overly involved with demands), when it was one of the highest rated shows on TV. however i think what i look forward to most is the show going full weird Lynch and losing a lot of the cherry pie fright rags t shirt brigade.

is whiney a parody of whiney the ilx poster of yore, a parody of the actual person whiney g is behind the whining, a parody of something else, or just something else?

the cherry pie fright rags t shirt brigade

how many of these people are there, really? this is such a strawman. I don't know any of these people irl. in my experience people are either on the Lynch train or they're not, there isn't really this middle ground of people who only love this one oddly popular thing he did once.

the number of people who are on the Lynch train, meaning willing to go all the way with him, is far less than the number of people who watched Twin Peaks and enjoyed it during its first season, and far less than the number of people who are excited for its return. I imagine there are a lot of people who loved the series who never saw FWWM, Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, Inland Empire, etc. I mean that's just obvious. so yeah, i guess i mean the people who like the ephemera of the show but not the complete content or odd subtexts and so on.

you mentioned Herzog before, it's kinda the same thing to a much lesser extent right? The group of people who like Herzog as a meme (probably due largely to Grizzly Man) doesn't overlap fully with the people who watched Fitzcarraldo or Cobra Verde.

ha that's not a bad point

(tbf the reason I brought up Herzog was this thread tho: Gummo: Classic or dud?

(tl,dr summary = Whiney slags off Korine and Gummo as poseur bullshit, I point out that Korine is v much a student of Herzog, Whiney says he's never seen a Herzog movie)

Of the 8 ppl I watched 1&2 with last night, 6 are TP fans mostly perplexed and disappointed with the new direction. Lynch's late (and early, which this feels like a return to) style's distance from the rhythms of classic soaps/noir are a big part of this imo.

heh let people enjoy things

i never really loved anything Lynch did til Mulholland Dr, so the late-period gravy might be my nectar.

(in retro, i rather loved The Straight Story last time i watched -- again, post-TP)

And if this is what Showtime thinks of my demo then I feel disgusted

That seems a measured and reasonable reaction.

lol circa

I never had any plans to watch this (never even saw season 2 when it was new) but I am somewhat more sympathetic to Whiney's position after being sent a promo of an album by a band called Dale Cooper & the Dictaphones.

From the orbit of bands that gave us Free Nelson Mandoomjazz

I used to enjoy eating food with a spoon but then that band went and called themselves Spoon and now just looking at silverware makes me throw up in my mouth. What exceedingly-fragile components of my self-identity are people going to demolish next?

Do you just look at the epic bacon mustache zombie threads in mystified confusion?

"I don't understand, bacon is rather epic?"

epic bacon mustache zombie threads

the what now?

get on 77

no

Ppl pretend otherwise but the original twin peaks did badly in the ratings after the pilot

wins is not entirely wrong... the "first" (post-pilot) episode had a big dropoff vs Cheers

http://www.angelfire.com/in2/judesmovies/papers/twpe.htm

Remember when a band called themselves "Twin Peaks" and websites covered them instead of laughing at them

out of all the dumb shit in this thread this one hits me the most. i was pulling my hair out when ppl were treating this band as legit. you cant just name your band twin peaks, fucking idiots!

Isn't one of your American knockers restaurants called that

Is there anyone else besides me, Morbs and Sara who are like "Yeah, I can wait, thanks"

― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 22, 2017 5:56 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love the original show and i'll see this eventually, but in no hurry. i mean it's been long enough in coming so what's a few more months or w/e? i only got exposed to the original show six years ago so i haven't been waiting as long though.

there was a big thing a bunch of my friends were going to on Sunday to see it open at a movie-screen bar and i skipped it. unconsciously part of the reason probably lines up with whiney's thread-starting issues, where this is basically like the force awakens for a slightly different (but overlapping) lifestyle submarket. but it's also more like, man, there is NOTHING about o.g. twin peaks that says to me "this would be better watched in a crowded, sweaty bar with people cheering over the dialogue when familiar old faces and catch-phrases show up." so much of it is about solitary creepiness and being deeply unsettled by things. not to say that can't happen in something that is also 'entertainment' - that's obvious given the success of the original show! - but the particular culturally-embedded form of entertainment-eventness that we have before us in 2017 just isn't going to enhance my watching of this thing.

Yeah "viewing parties" and pies and whatever are a terrible way to go about things (but are a holdover from 1990 & not really anything to do w 2017 media consumption), but it's like how people dress up to sit in the dark in a cinema: it's not my business if ppl don't know how to watch things (Star Wars sucks for different reasons)

Isn't one of your American knockers restaurants called that

― in a soylent whey (wins)

it is and it confuses me. i would assume there are double entendres for knockers that don't evoke backwards-speaking dwarves.

Do you just look at the epic bacon mustache zombie threads in mystified confusion?

― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:51 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, but possibly for different reasons than you might assume.

a middlebrow shitstorm that lets you buy dick joke T-shirts at Hot Topic.

― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 22, 2017 9:11 AM (one month ago)

^ NEVER FORGET

David Bowie

i hope the next generation of privileged hipsters get really into nerd-ass SpazzNoiz rap rock and write thousands of fawning braindead thinkpieces about it and bingewatch middlebrow prestige tv about like, the Anger Management Tour so that Whiney is forced to disavow it

i hear there's a guy named Dougie

There is!

Also, tonight's episode was mind-blowing and maybe the most experimental thing Lynch has ever done and had almost zero explicit reference to the Twin Peaks people were familiar with before this year. Many a Showtime subscription was cancelled on this night, I'm certain.

But for every person who unsubscribed , another five people stood around and pointed and laughed at them

at least two things in this episode made me think whiney NEEDS to see this

Seriously, it's like the scene of the bronies scarfing platefuls of bacon at the RR was written just for him.

if you're all too cool for twin peaks, this episode was the exact opposite of twin peaks, which means you're also too cool for the exact opposite of twin peaks

MOR

You pricks this thread is for the non watchers fuck off

TBF, I am not watching Twin Peaks season 3 at this moment.

am i the only one that is so sick of the teens in hot topic wearing bright green gardening gloves and making Dougie Jones references? Twin Peaks is not a passing fad, teens, this shit is important and should be treated with respect

This too will fold in time into its allotted place in the texture of the living story

Twin Peaks:Whiney Stranger Things:Me

If you like films tho, David Lynch films... are good

I feel like this thread sentiment would have shone as a single post in the garbage thread "things you just don't care about" but I understand that a whiney gets parched and I 100% genuinely endorse the bad sociology

― in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 18:53 (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

literally just shat an "oh is sportsball on??" tweet onto the rug and mewled up at us expecting a treat

I finally watched Stranger Things. It was cute!