thread for ppl who aren't watching Twin Peaks Season 3

"Diane, it struck me again earlier this morning, there are two things that continue to trouble me. And I'm speaking now not only as an agent of the Bureau but also as a human being. Why were the anime nazis so quick to adopt Pepe, a cartoon frog invented by a liberal cartoonist?"

Also Diane is the memos app on his iPhone

What if it turned out that he sent all of his tapes to the Cheers set and Shelley Long ultimately had to take out a restraining order against him?

so in that alternate universe you would have posted a thread declaring you are not watching the new Seinfeld?

if Seinfeld came back and Larry David could do whatever he wanted

tbf this already happened

I mean, for all of Seinfeld's transgressive and revolutionary things, it was still, for a good five years, one of the most popular television shows on the planet.

Twin Peaks was a cult phenomenon being elevated by time and probably, through no small measure, by the type of traditonally privileged people who inherited all the media jobs. This feels more like if Husker Du reunited and the media went on an all-points bulletin

Smiths would probably be a better comparison

This feels more like if Husker Du reunited and the media went on an all-points bulletin

I look forward to your day job totally ignoring their forthcoming Numero Group box set.

there are some similarities between this thread and the things that it's criticizing

Twin Peaks was a top rated show during its first season. It was not Freaks and Geeks-level cult.

lol also KM otm

xp

it's also been hugely influential on subsequent shows - X-Files, Sopranos, Mad Men, etc.

but you know all this shit Whiney

(also Seinfeld was garbage fyi)

Thanking u for the information.

If you like films tho, David Lynch films... are good

I feel like this thread sentiment would have shone as a single post in the garbage thread "things you just don't care about" but I understand that a whiney gets parched and I 100% genuinely endorse the bad sociology

I'm in this club but I'm sure I'll get around to seeing it in ten years or so

whiney should go full seinfeld and open up any future criticism/analysis product with a more polished version of himself workshopping this hot topic shirt material on ilx

Also, I think there's gonna be like a different indie rock band in the Bang Bang Bar every week, like Flaming Lips stopping by the Peach Pit on 90210

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJC6GWZGswY

David Lynch is great though, and season 1 of Twin Peaks was such a great run of episodes. the nostalgia comes from that (not S2, when the network got overly involved with demands), when it was one of the highest rated shows on TV. however i think what i look forward to most is the show going full weird Lynch and losing a lot of the cherry pie fright rags t shirt brigade.

is whiney a parody of whiney the ilx poster of yore, a parody of the actual person whiney g is behind the whining, a parody of something else, or just something else?

the cherry pie fright rags t shirt brigade

how many of these people are there, really? this is such a strawman. I don't know any of these people irl. in my experience people are either on the Lynch train or they're not, there isn't really this middle ground of people who only love this one oddly popular thing he did once.

the number of people who are on the Lynch train, meaning willing to go all the way with him, is far less than the number of people who watched Twin Peaks and enjoyed it during its first season, and far less than the number of people who are excited for its return. I imagine there are a lot of people who loved the series who never saw FWWM, Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, Inland Empire, etc. I mean that's just obvious. so yeah, i guess i mean the people who like the ephemera of the show but not the complete content or odd subtexts and so on.

you mentioned Herzog before, it's kinda the same thing to a much lesser extent right? The group of people who like Herzog as a meme (probably due largely to Grizzly Man) doesn't overlap fully with the people who watched Fitzcarraldo or Cobra Verde.

ha that's not a bad point

(tbf the reason I brought up Herzog was this thread tho: Gummo: Classic or dud?

(tl,dr summary = Whiney slags off Korine and Gummo as poseur bullshit, I point out that Korine is v much a student of Herzog, Whiney says he's never seen a Herzog movie)

Of the 8 ppl I watched 1&2 with last night, 6 are TP fans mostly perplexed and disappointed with the new direction. Lynch's late (and early, which this feels like a return to) style's distance from the rhythms of classic soaps/noir are a big part of this imo.

heh let people enjoy things

i never really loved anything Lynch did til Mulholland Dr, so the late-period gravy might be my nectar.

(in retro, i rather loved The Straight Story last time i watched -- again, post-TP)

I don't know any of these people irl.

too old, mate

6 are TP fans mostly perplexed and disappointed with the new direction

baffling. New eps felt v much in line w series finale + FWWM to me, w a slightly different/updated look

this is not the thread for making the case for David Lynch as a director worth paying attention to, this is a thread for whiney g weingarten to post that something is just the equivalent of something for people that like something, + a bizarre number of replies to same

no, whiney likes things, other people pretend to like things

― harbl, Tuesday, June 8, 2010 2:04 AM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

basically this reminds me of an Ivy League friend who wore an Indy Jones costume to opening night of Temple of Doom

lol harbl otm

What fascinates me is that despite broadcasting a rather unhealthy portrayal of violence towards women, Twin Peaks has so far never really received a backlash that other more recent shows got (thinking Game of Thrones). I wonder if over the course of many episodes those groupies will realize that Lynch, despite his genius, remains a 70 years old men who filmed a lot of abuse for the sake of shock. Especially considering a lot of Twin Peaks fandom consist of women... I don't know, putting it out there.

for the sake of shock

this requires some unpacking imo

half the anticipation thread is ppl saying "the marketing is annoying as shit but Lynch is getting 18 hours of creative control so wgaf"

this thread seems to live in a world where last night was 2 hours of the cast dancing while shoveling pie into their mouths.

xpost Nah, that sounds about right. It's why they call him the Shockmeister, iirc.

Shakey the finale and fwwm are pretty distant from the soap/noir style of the first 14 eps, which is what the TP fans I watched with wanted to see--the sweetness and comraderie amongst the dark and baffling stuff.

despite broadcasting a rather unhealthy portrayal of violence towards women, Twin Peaks has so far never really received a backlash that other more recent shows got

related:

https://newrepublic.com/article/117323/twin-peaks-and-origin-dead-woman-tv-trope

http://www.wnyc.org/story/beautiful-dead-girl-trope/

Of the 8 ppl I watched 1&2 with last night, 6 are TP fans mostly perplexed and disappointed with the new direction. Lynch's late (and early, which this feels like a return to) style's distance from the rhythms of classic soaps/noir are a big part of this imo.

― sciatica, Monday, May 22, 2017 2:27 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was just thinking too like how rooted in time this was, like, 1990 was such a perfect distance from 1950s soap operas and the Roy Orbison-y songs like "Just You" to make it feel so much more uncanny/dreamlike, and now we're so A) further removed from that era and B) Any use of it would just lose similar meaning and just become an aesthetic

Did any of my tr00 peak freaks buy the cool dead woman doll

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0552/1401/products/12696_TWIN_PEAKS_Laura_Plamer_GLAM_HiRes_1024x1024.jpg?v=1485796476

our own tuomas has repeatedly charged Lynch re: misogyny and conservatism, while still (I think?) being nominally a fan, I don't think that stuff has been overlooked in the discourse about this show in particular

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I don't *personally* know anyone into waterlogged dead women tbh

Also, Οὖτις, I've seen Cave of Forgotten Dreams and Nosferatu by this point.

*whew*

I mean, this also crosses over into the sickness that is binge-watching, the generational lie that is "prestige TV" and the worst impulses of consumptive-capitialism-as-identity-signaling; all joining forces for a middlebrow shitstorm that lets you buy dick joke T-shirts at Hot Topic.

― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 22, 2017 9:11 AM (two hours ago

I preferred Whiney Season 2 with the OI MATES BIG BOTTOM BIRD NEWSIE-WEWSIES aesthetic

https://s3.amazonaws.com/coatandtails/img/blog/loglady.jpg

HAHAHAHAH and thanks for including "Perfect Shayna" as an illustration of your rant -- that was mildly cathartic

lol sarahell

i hear there's a guy named Dougie

There is!

Also, tonight's episode was mind-blowing and maybe the most experimental thing Lynch has ever done and had almost zero explicit reference to the Twin Peaks people were familiar with before this year. Many a Showtime subscription was cancelled on this night, I'm certain.

But for every person who unsubscribed , another five people stood around and pointed and laughed at them

at least two things in this episode made me think whiney NEEDS to see this

Seriously, it's like the scene of the bronies scarfing platefuls of bacon at the RR was written just for him.

if you're all too cool for twin peaks, this episode was the exact opposite of twin peaks, which means you're also too cool for the exact opposite of twin peaks

MOR

You pricks this thread is for the non watchers fuck off

TBF, I am not watching Twin Peaks season 3 at this moment.

am i the only one that is so sick of the teens in hot topic wearing bright green gardening gloves and making Dougie Jones references? Twin Peaks is not a passing fad, teens, this shit is important and should be treated with respect

This too will fold in time into its allotted place in the texture of the living story

Twin Peaks:Whiney Stranger Things:Me

If you like films tho, David Lynch films... are good

I feel like this thread sentiment would have shone as a single post in the garbage thread "things you just don't care about" but I understand that a whiney gets parched and I 100% genuinely endorse the bad sociology

― in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 18:53 (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

literally just shat an "oh is sportsball on??" tweet onto the rug and mewled up at us expecting a treat

I finally watched Stranger Things. It was cute!