Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

the Clintons are an institution which for most of the last few decades has been interchangeable with the DNC.

Interesting definitions of "most" "few" and "interchangeable" here

― El Tomboto, Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:27 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The DNC has been populated by Clintonites since 1992, not sure what's so interesting abt the langauge

I think his point is that we haven't even reached "a few" decades

it will be interesting ... to see how the next serious (Democratic) female candidate for president is treated. because I do think a lot of people were able to mask ... outright misogyny with a general distaste for The Clintons...

― evol j, Thursday, June 1, 2017 8:20 AM (seven minutes ago)

it'll be interesting, yeah, but i wouldn't take her example as bellwether. she's a uniquely powerful hate magnet, even among those who would otherwise support her party & policies, even among those willing to overlook bill's many flaws. misogyny can't be separated from that, but it's not the whole story. and she ran a bad campaign, and she made some terrible early decisions re that stupid fucking email nonsense, and comey conspired with the russians to shank her, and the democrats quietly bailed on the american worker two decades ago, and trump's idiot savant news cycle dominance powers gave him a massive edge from day one. etc.

xpost 2.5 decades is a few

Interesting definition of 'populated' there. But so many things are interesting when you speak ESL.

Is Hadrian American?

she made some terrible early decisions re that stupid fucking email nonsense

a mistake that her predecessors made too but didn't have "Clinton" as a last name?

Her campaign was no worse than anybody else's. Her campaign sucked because she lost.

can someone ping me when you guys have this figured out finally, gonna check out for awhile

I'm gonna get the papers get the papers

Hey Frederik is go fuck yourself native enough?

I'm fine with someone else making the cofefe houses joke, but to the extent HRC has an audience, 1) she shouldn't stoop to DJT's level, and 2) there are much bigger problems to address than DJT, which the election simply made visible.

Thought experiment, what could Hillary Rawham Clinton done differently to won the election (the 2016 election for presidetn of USA of america)? I'm asking for a friend but I think this could generate some very interesting conversation!

been remixed by Justin Bieber

I don't watch sports, but do those ESPN guys larp their way through last year's Super Bowl every day?

Dude fans of the losing team larp through a Super Bowl loss for the rest of their lives

...a mistake that her predecessors made too but didn't have "Clinton" as a last name?

spicer attempts to defend kushner by saying back channels are sop. they are, of course, but that's irrelevant. the existence of this particular "channel" is suspicious in light of the comically obvious.

hillary's email habits were unremarkable. but in the early days of her campaign, under intensely public scrutiny and with the myth of clinton dishonesty already well established, she chose again and again to stall, deny and half-disclose. guilty of nothing, she did everything possible to keep keep doubt alive.

and okay, fine, no mas

Guys guys I heard you were discussing what Hilary did wrong itt I came right over, where we at?

her wedding

Ironic to see Hadrian VIII complaining about dynasty imo

Had HRC run on issues rather than character, she might have won. Most of Trump's voters knew he was a repugnant person.

But the great flaw was in the Democratic leadership and fundraising. There were many potential candidates that were deterred from entering the race due to the perceived insurmountable lead HRC had, and none were weighed down decades of calumnies. I'm not sure Sanders could have won facing the ton of (R) oppo during the general, but others like Jim Webb certainly could have.

Hillery should have gotten with the patriotic russioan hackers

Jim Webb is human garbage who looks like a Dick Tracy villain and should be sealed in a barrel and floated out to sea.

Ironic to see Hadrian VIII complaining about dynasty imo

― D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:25 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A+

I don't watch sports, but do those ESPN guys larp their way through last year's Super Bowl every day?

The problem being that the systems and mindsets that led to the loss are still in place.

why anyone expends any positive energy on politicians to the right of Warren remains a mystery to me

some comic relief from across the pond

The mayor of Manchester, a member of the Labor Party, learnedly explains that the US and UK never intervened in the mideast before 9/11 pic.twitter.com/n51OzuJVkV

— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) June 1, 2017

Iron Law of Institutions?

XP to simon: because they run everything?

also

Yeah, the Paris accords are pretty weak stuff, but the enlightened wing of the business class is freaking out. pic.twitter.com/jc3gMWybO2

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) June 1, 2017

Rolling Stone: 'Donald Trump' Tops List of New Meth Nicknames

I missed the part where Jim Webb was "deterred from entering the race." Could have sworn I saw him in the first debate.

he was deterred by all the faces he saw everywhere scowling at him

I think humans will only agree to climate change actions once their houses are flooded and destroyed and they cant buy gas for their cars cause its too expensive.

Just being optimistic!

XP to simon: because they run everything?

I meant in terms of hopes for the future, candidacies, etc. Neoliberalism is a dead end.

it still blows my mind that there was a cover feature in the nation praising webb early on as he ran for senator

xp: Simon

Because enough voters don't really know left from right (cf Trump's base), and are looking at things like domineering bearing or whether the candidate reminds them of their ex. I hope we'll see a progressive in the WH soon, but I wouldn't be surprised if that progressive was a military vet.

It's not about knowing left from right, it's about addressing people's material concerns in a credible way. Maybe then some of that 45% that sits elections out will turn up.

Because enough voters don't really know left from right (cf Trump's base), and are looking at things like domineering bearing or whether the candidate reminds them of their ex. I hope we'll see a progressive in the WH soon, but I wouldn't be surprised if that progressive was a military vet.

Moulton '20

Sanpaku OTM. Trumpbase's material concerns are being put through a wood chipper and they don't care.

well he's "shakin' things up"!

it's about addressing people's material concerns in a credible way.

WilliamC otm, Trump's core supporters don't process their material concerns in a way that reflects their politics.

or rather their political positions don't reflect their material concerns

Did u miss the part where I wasn't talking about Trump's "core supporters"

I'm talking about the millions and millions of people who feel (correctly, I think) alienated from the mainstream American political process and don't bother participating as a result

Yeah, even I took Simon's comment to mean that there are votes to be won among the 45% of turned-off nonvoters The Trumpoids won't be convinced by any means anyways so why try

DJP blowing up the moulton.house.gov uniques

When thousands of small manufacturers closed factories in small town USA and moved operations to places like China and Mexico, many of the workers decided it was all the fault of the Chinese and Mexicans.

i can't wait for trump's reality show style countdown to 3pm EST - will he decide to shit all over the world again? will some rich guy convince him not to do it? who will be the last person to whisper in his ear? has he learned anything about why coal mining jobs are disappearing? will he share his discovery of natural gas from earlier this morning? will he refer to climate change as a conspiracy so far reaching that it involves nearly all scientists who have worked on the issue PLUS china, but somehow all evidence of this globalist plot involving tens or even hundreds of thousands of people has been buried (by the lying fake news?!!?!)!?!?!?!?!!? ALL THIS AND MORE AT 3PM EST, sign up for a 3-day free hulu trial to watch live and we'll send you a climate change barf bag!

BREAKING: Former FBI director James Comey to testify before Senate Intel next THURSDAY, June 8, at 10 a.m.

— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) June 1, 2017

When thousands of small manufacturers closed factories in small town USA and moved operations to places like China and Mexico, many of the workers decided it was all the fault of the Chinese and Mexicans.

I wonder if this might have something to do with the lack of class awareness in American society leaving people inventing foreign boogeymen

You think the hearings are going to be a summer-long thing like Iran-Contra or something where it's just on in the background for months?

You wander into the lunch room to grab a snack and notice on the flatscreen there's yet another tie-wearing grimaced white dude talking in a mic behind some chyron and a scroll