there's a cheering section at this announcement. who are these people? they gave him an ovation
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
Honestly, there is very little about all these Russian investigations that weren't brought up months ago (go figure). People don't give a shit
Watergate took a year and a half to get going
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
All these characters, from Manafort to Page to Cohen to Stone, etc., people have been talking about them for months. Not to mention Trump himself, who was shady from day one. So yeah, some of the finer points of detail re: Flynn or Sessions are new, and the Comey twist is new, but there was enough to go on before the election. People. Do. Not. Give. A. Shit.
If people give a shit they will vote out the GOP. If they don't ... they don't. And I have my doubts, because they elected this fucking piece of shit in the first place.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
Somewhere in Trump's sick mind he at least considered how he could use this as a bargaining chip. If we can let these totally, totally false Russian accusations go, maybe I won't hasten the extinction of life on earth. Sad!
― Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
These tweets worth reading: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2017/06/trump-identity-politics
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
Watergate took a year and a half to get going, fine. But we are well post Watergate, we know the drill, and in the meantime day after day Trump is fucking everything up. By the time we emerge from the other side, assuming anything even happens, someone will have to clean up all this shit he smeared all over everything.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
Yes the pullout is damaging but the fact that it's TRUMP who's doing it taints climate-denialism by association...
Doesn't it? (Please say it does)
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
why is pence introducing this like it's a celebration?
there's a cheering section at this announcement. who are these people?
"Because fuck Obama" and "because liberal tears / liberal 'splodey heads" is really all the explanation needed, both for the pullout and for the air of celebration. It's just a big fat Culture War zing, and it didn't require marshaling a Senate vote, getting through a Federal court, or any of those pesky details.
― kajagoogoo's kazooist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
Like, with no question there is tenfold times the shit going on as there was during Watergate, it's all right out there for even armchair investigators to see. Perjury, conflicts of interest. It's all right there. But there are serious things at stake here with global implications, you'd think it'd expedite things a bit.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
The right is almost pure identity id at this point. There is no policy agenda, just hatred of "latte liberals," people of color, immigrants.— sean. (@SeanMcElwee) May 31, 2017
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
they aren't being let go, they are sucking all the air out of Trump's presidency and hobbling congressional legislative agenda. In that sense it doesn't matter if the public at large "doesn't give a shit" (although I think they do, for the most part), what matters is that it is crippling him politically. Why do you think he's making such a big deal of this Paris Accord withdrawal? It's one of the few things left that he can do without Congress (I'm gonna let you guess what the others are - they aren't pretty either)
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
here comes a litany of misleading lies from trump. this is revolting.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link
trump just criticized the paris accord for not promoting "clean coal" enough, which is one dumb thing, but also...doesn't his own budget cut funding for "clean coal"?http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-budget-hits-renewables-hard-but-clean-coal-also-starves/article/2623937
his lies aren't even consistent
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link
why start now
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link
I wonder if they cancelled that Iowa rally because this was going to take its place
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link
I'm gonna let you guess what the others are - they aren't pretty either
Favor us.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
^^^ bring it on
― sleeve, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
what matters is that it is crippling him politically
In what sense? Because from Trump through Sessions to Pruitt to whomever, they are still doing shitty horrible things, whether it has to go through congress or not. The only argument that can be made is that it could be even worse.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
does everyone else think I should stop posting too?
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
Actually feel sick at the amount of stupidity in this speech. It's moronic!
― stet, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
that's the only argument to make! why is this not important??
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
Because the prospect of worse does not make terrible better!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
...
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
Josh, your basis for argument seems to be that if it's not good enough to get this administration thrown out now, it's not worth bothering with.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
things a President can do without Congress = foreign policy, ie rip up treaties, fuck up alliances, start wars, etc. you know, the good stuff!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
Jfc heard 30 seconds of this shit on NPR and feeling homicidal.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
the whitehouse feed keeps cutting to this shot of 3-rows of trump supporters, carefully cropped so that no one else is in the same frame. it's so obviously fake and manufactured
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
I don't watch him talk, I'm not a glutton for punishment
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
also are you really hoping for something unexpected to happen? I mean
I'm hoping someone brings me a gin and tonic.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
otm
― sleeve, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link
I'm hoping for a protester to yell "FUCK YOOOOOoooooo"
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link
this speech is actually shaping up to be one of his most explicit and prominent expressions of xenophobism, "anti-globalism", bannonism
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
I'm hoping for more than that. (xp)
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
He's basically declared trade war on Europe and China.
And the USA will lose that.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link
Hmmm, more like 10 months really. And the mean attention span is about a tenth of what it was then.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link
Paul Ryans statement is basically 'fuck obama lol'
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
Pruitt's talking now.
what a fucking prick
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
his nose so deep up trump's asshole, the buttcheeks making little hollow cupping noises as they clap over pruitt's ears
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
The US will get coal mines, we'll get renewables. The guy is a deal-making genius
― stet, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
thank you for a note of black humor, appreciated
― sleeve, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:50 PM (eleven minutes ago)
wholeheartedly
― a warm bowl of soap (WilliamC), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link
he took no questions
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link
yea i'm not going to watch this
― marcos, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link
Looks like the UK picked the wrong time to hitch its wagon to the Poor Old USA.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link
the mean attention span is about a tenth of what it was then
it is probably easy to believe that one can accurately estimate an entire population's average attention span when one only pays attention to three things
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link
bold predictionscott pruitt will become a U.S. senator and he will be even more hatable than ted cruz
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link
savin' that for ilx first mentions but it seems so likely
guys the FP button under Violet Jynx's posts is in the same place as everybody else's posts
please stop confusing being mildly annoying with being hateful, etc.
I can't believe I'm posting this
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link