Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

Actually feel sick at the amount of stupidity in this speech. It's moronic!

In what sense? Because from Trump through Sessions to Pruitt to whomever, they are still doing shitty horrible things, whether it has to go through congress or not. The only argument that can be made is that it could be even worse.

that's the only argument to make! why is this not important??

Because the prospect of worse does not make terrible better!

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Josh, your basis for argument seems to be that if it's not good enough to get this administration thrown out now, it's not worth bothering with.

Favor us.

things a President can do without Congress = foreign policy, ie rip up treaties, fuck up alliances, start wars, etc. you know, the good stuff!

Jfc heard 30 seconds of this shit on NPR and feeling homicidal.

the whitehouse feed keeps cutting to this shot of 3-rows of trump supporters, carefully cropped so that no one else is in the same frame. it's so obviously fake and manufactured

I don't watch him talk, I'm not a glutton for punishment

also are you really hoping for something unexpected to happen? I mean

I'm hoping someone brings me a gin and tonic.

otm

I'm hoping for a protester to yell "FUCK YOOOOOoooooo"

this speech is actually shaping up to be one of his most explicit and prominent expressions of xenophobism, "anti-globalism", bannonism

I'm hoping for more than that. (xp)

He's basically declared trade war on Europe and China.

And the USA will lose that.

Watergate took a year and a half to get going

Hmmm, more like 10 months really. And the mean attention span is about a tenth of what it was then.

Paul Ryans statement is basically 'fuck obama lol'

Pruitt's talking now.

what a fucking prick

his nose so deep up trump's asshole, the buttcheeks making little hollow cupping noises as they clap over pruitt's ears

He's basically declared trade war on Europe and China.

The US will get coal mines, we'll get renewables. The guy is a deal-making genius

thank you for a note of black humor, appreciated

does everyone else think I should stop posting too?

― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:50 PM (eleven minutes ago)

wholeheartedly

he took no questions

yea i'm not going to watch this

Looks like the UK picked the wrong time to hitch its wagon to the Poor Old USA.

the mean attention span is about a tenth of what it was then

it is probably easy to believe that one can accurately estimate an entire population's average attention span when one only pays attention to three things

bold prediction
scott pruitt will become a U.S. senator and he will be even more hatable than ted cruz

savin' that for ilx first mentions but it seems so likely

guys the FP button under Violet Jynx's posts is in the same place as everybody else's posts

please stop confusing being mildly annoying with being hateful, etc.

I can't believe I'm posting this

lol @ Musk throwing a temper tantrum and leaving his "economic councils" as if that counts for shit

I'm glad he's bankrolling Solarcity and Tesla and battery storage projects and space exploration but god he is such a tool

xp I tried that already, it didn't work

one can accurately estimate an entire population's average attention span when one only pays attention to mobile-electronics-obsessed zombies

Don't misrepresent me — I've never said or thought VJ was hateful. I just wish he'd vanish.

^^^

Josh, your basis for argument seems to be that if it's not good enough to get this administration thrown out now, it's not worth bothering with.

I don't know, the GOP congress under Obama was capable enough to hold/fuck things up just for the hell of it, and Trump can with a single fart undo or at least fuck up any sign of progress ... if it's that easy to do a bad job, or just destroy for destruction's sake, then maybe none of it is worth bothering with. Like, to what end? As long as there are people stupid enough to nihilistically turn the clock back, what is the point if it's relatively easy for them to do so? Because even if the congress and White House went blue, they can't just undo the shit Trump is undoing. What's taking him months to destroy was often the product of years of effort. And even if all the investigations take him down, his replacements are just as bad for all the same reasons. And if all of these investigations don't take him down, then ... seriously, why bother? We're doomed.

Trump getting elected period remains just so innately disheartening.

i'm just gonna cast aside any degree of investment in my health and any specific plans for the future. maybe i'll start smoking cigarettes or something. why not?

Because even if the congress and White House went blue, they can't just undo the shit Trump is undoing

be specific, because in many cases they can actually undo the shit he is doing

and let's be really clear here - repealing the ACA, pushing through an insane tax cut, building a wall on the Mexican border, etc. - these are all things with horrible, horrible consequences and it is a good thing that they are being stopped.

Are they being stopped or just seriously slowed? You can't stop something that hasn't happened yet, and I can't tell if they've been stopped or merely stymied by the gross incompetence of this administration.

Oh, and you want specific? OK. How about ... the Paris Climate Accord? Can we just rejoin? Or if some ACA replacement passes in some shape or form in the next few years ... can that just be changed? How about tax cuts, if they ever happen? Good luck getting enough momentum getting tax hikes passed, even if it's just to bring things up to old levels.

Paris Climate Accord? Can we just rejoin?

probably

that's what I'm wondering. US can't actually withdraw until 2020, so if a Dem/non-idiot president wins, can't they just rejoin?

The fuse is a little longer than most, but this is basically a genocidal act. Made out of willful ignorance and spite, by a reality show star.

How widespread was voter revulsion towards Nixon and understanding of what Watergate meant when it went down? Because I only really know from Perlstein tomes, but I get a sense that maybe a lot of people didn't get/care what he'd been doing wrong? Like Trump's apologists now? The only difference is they got Twitter (and he hasn't gone down yet)

Why would the world wait for us to do so? Like Brexit, I assume damage is done.

We can but who would take our word? President Pruitt can withdraw again in 2024.

Or if some ACA replacement passes in some shape or form in the next few years ... can that just be changed?

yes, if the votes in congress are there. ditto taxes (remember the battle over letting Bush's ridiculous tax cuts expire?)

xp

Also what does You can't stop something that hasn't happened yet mean because as a koan its kind of imparsable.