Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

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but HER emails

good one tho

j., Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

naomi klein:


NOW THAT IT SEEMS virtually certain that Donald Trump will withdraw the United States from the Paris climate accord, and the climate movement is quite rightly mobilizing in the face of this latest dystopian lurch, it’s time to get real about something: Pretty much everything that is weak, disappointing, and inadequate about that deal is the result of U.S. lobbying since 2009.

The fact that the agreement only commits governments to keeping warming below an increase of 2 degrees, rather than a much safer firm target of 1.5 degrees, was lobbied for and won by the United States.

The fact that the agreement left it to individual nations to determine how much they were willing to do to reach that temperature target, allowing them to come to Paris with commitments that collectively put us on a disastrous course toward more than 3 degrees of warming, was lobbied for and won by the United States.

The fact that the agreement treats even these inadequate commitments as non-binding, which means governments apparently do not have anything to fear if they ignore their commitments, is something else that was lobbied for and won by the United States.

The fact that the agreement specifically prohibits poor countries from seeking damages for the costs of climate disasters was lobbied for and won by the United States.

The fact that it is an “agreement” or an “accord” and not a treaty — the very thing that makes it possible for Trump to stage his action-movie slow-mo walk away, world in flames behind him — was lobbied for and won by the United States.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link

hilarious, in that context, to consider this part of trump's speech:

Even if the Paris Agreement were implemented in full, with total compliance from all nations, it is estimated it would only produce a 2/10 of one degree – think of that. This much….Celsius reduction in global temperature by the year 2100. Tiny tiny amount.

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/01/531090243/trumps-speech-on-paris-climate-agreement-withdrawal-annotated

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

Sorry to stick with this people don't give a shit thought. I know I am reducing things, but I can only assume the vast majority of the millions that didn't vote did not do so because they were gerrymandered or otherwise restricted, they did it because they didn't care or didn't care to bother. I understand that by any reasonable metric Trump has been doing a terrible job and has terrible support, but by any reasonable metric he should not be president either.

Generally speaking, it's not good enough to vote against something (France excepted). You need to actually be promoting something worth believing in to get people to give a shit, and be at least semi-credible while doing it.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:52 (six years ago) link

It's telling that even with Le Pen running there was still 33.4% abstention when it came to that or voting for a centrist

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:53 (six years ago) link

did he say 2/10 because is sounded smaller than 1/5?

nomar, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:54 (six years ago) link

he likes to divide everything up into tens because it's easier to visualize using his fingers

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link

we're a democracy that enshrined the rights of a minority of white supremacists into our founding document, an error which we will never stop paying for

― Οὖτις, Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:46 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we're also the only democracy on the planet that still uses a constitution from the 18th century

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link

Nicaraguan businessman friend: "A group of us will ask Ortega to sign Paris Accord. Being in same group w/Trump is so damn embarrassing."

— Ana Navarro (@ananavarro) June 1, 2017

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Friday, 2 June 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

Oops, a bit dated, that.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Friday, 2 June 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link

Jesus, EVERYTHING i read in the paper now is reminding me of Trump and Bannon...

"Astronomers said Thursday that they had felt space-time vibrations known as gravitational waves from the merger of a pair of mammoth black holes resulting in a pit of infinitely deep darkness weighing as much as 49 suns, some 3 billion light-years from here."

scott seward, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

my (endangered) congressman:

The effects of pollution and climate change do not obey national or continental borders. This us vs them mentality makes 0 sense.

— Carlos Curbelo (@carloslcurbelo) June 1, 2017

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 June 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

That 2/10 bit was what I heard on NPR, I think I screamed obscenities and immediately afterward had a car nearly crash into me. I think unrelated but maybe the driver was just trying to help.

JoeStork, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link

As long as the defensive ring of accomplices are like 5-deep, I dig this:

Hundreds came together to support #IftarInTheStreets in #NYC this evening in front of Trump Tower. #Ramadan2017 pic.twitter.com/Mw2LuixhIn

— Kyle O'Leary (@tkocreative) June 2, 2017

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Friday, 2 June 2017 01:53 (six years ago) link

Silver lining: maybe it's almost time to start the Anglo-American Cultural Supremacy into the shitbin thread

It won't go down without a fight.

― pomenitul

anglo-american supremacy will die like anglo-americans: shitting itself and cursing incoherently at the nursemaids assigned to care for it.

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-climate-decision-after-fiery-debate-he-stayed-where-hes-always-been/2017/06/01/e4acb27e-46db-11e7-bcde-624ad94170ab_story.html

so basically he went with his gut and also hates macron, that's pretty much it

i am hung up on a moment early on where the reporter describes bannon as working feverishly to pull together tons of material to make the case against the agreement. i feel like we need another word besides "work" to describe the effort it takes to spend many many hours preparing information that is misleading and inaccurate

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Friday, 2 June 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link

Frank Luntz could probably think of a good one, he's good at that kind of thing

Karl Malone, Friday, 2 June 2017 03:09 (six years ago) link

if i had Soros money i'd start paying for white evangelical scalps

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 2 June 2017 03:14 (six years ago) link

so beating him at the handshake was bad strategy?

j., Friday, 2 June 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link

Macron shakes his hand too hard - shit list. Comey too tall - shit list.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 June 2017 03:18 (six years ago) link

won the hand battle, lost the hand war

nice cage (m bison), Friday, 2 June 2017 03:19 (six years ago) link

So I was right about him outdoing the title twattery within about a day. Wonder what he's got for us tomorrow.
But I guess should be used to that by now. Earthquake country.

Stevolende, Friday, 2 June 2017 03:24 (six years ago) link

Macron public adress manages to both piss off the ex-french presidents who couldn't speak english and do absolutely everything it can to rile up Trump. I'm down.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 2 June 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link

Another, smaller contingent tried for an outside-the-box fix: Marc Short, Trump’s director of legislative affairs, argued that the climate pact could be considered a treaty, in which case the president should send it to the Senate, which would need to ratify it by a two-thirds majority. Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and Nick Ayers, a senior strategist for Vice President Pence, both supported the idea. But it never gained much traction because the agreement was specifically crafted as an agreement that did not need Senate ratification.

Uh
gallows humor but looooooooooooooool

Karl Malone, Friday, 2 June 2017 03:29 (six years ago) link

This is also quite interesting ... https://t.co/hWhd3anQRl pic.twitter.com/cGMB9QC8dF

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) June 2, 2017

this is a tweet by josh marshall saying "this is also quite interesting..." with a cartoon of josh marshall looking down at a piece of josh marshall's writing which concludes "that's interesting"

Karl Malone, Friday, 2 June 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

13/ That's interesting.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) June 2, 2017

Karl Malone, Friday, 2 June 2017 04:11 (six years ago) link

so beating him at the handshake was bad strategy?

i thought it was the appropriate way to deal with the situation. trump was going to quit the climate agreement regardless. why? he feels bad about it. why? 'paris' + 'climate' + 'agreement' are words that make him feel bad, so you put them together, and he feels like it's bad. his feelings are very important. a lot of men in charge are like this

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Friday, 2 June 2017 04:13 (six years ago) link

yep.

Treeship, Friday, 2 June 2017 04:15 (six years ago) link

http://www.sierraclub.org/compass/2017/06/10-things-you-can-do-resist-trump-s-historic-paris-mistake

i was reading an article earlier on how the sierra club's beyond coal campaign has quietly been tremendously effective - 250+ coal power plants in the us retired/committed to retire.

my hope is that at the end of the day the biggest actual effect of this action (i understand the actual agreement withdrawal cannot even happen until nov 4, 2020) will be further energizing activists and damage politically to trump/GOP. bannon thinking this is a win like kushner thought firing comey was a win

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Friday, 2 June 2017 04:26 (six years ago) link

i appreciate your optimism (seriously)

mookieproof, Friday, 2 June 2017 04:31 (six years ago) link

Frankly, the low costs/BTU of fracked NG since 2009 have been far more effective than any environmental groups in driving utilities to retire coal and embrace combined cycle NG, which is the current solution to the renewables intermittancy problem as well. That will continue (so long as dumb shareholders/creditors subsidize NG) for a while, regardless of Trump's idiocy.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Friday, 2 June 2017 04:36 (six years ago) link

cnn panel like every cnn panel has approx 2 people who have facts and expertise and then 2 people who are political hacks and don't know anything about the subject and have them discuss, like this is a reasonable way to cover the news. christ. stephen moore and jeffrey lord and that casey anthony trump lady or whatever her name is are on tv constantly and melissa harris-perry doesn't have a show

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Friday, 2 June 2017 05:18 (six years ago) link

we're also the only democracy on the planet that still uses a constitution from the 18th century

Can you imagine what the one "we" would write in the 21st century would look like?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 June 2017 06:02 (six years ago) link

If The U.S. weakened the terms of the Paris Accord is there any likelihood that in its absence the other members might make the terms stronger. & when America returns with its tail between its legs it'll be harder to get back out of?
Or is its presence for the next 4 years going to hinder that?

Stevolende, Friday, 2 June 2017 09:26 (six years ago) link

While the USA is still there, the rest should crank it up ludicrously and troll the US at every opportunity.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Friday, 2 June 2017 09:29 (six years ago) link

Macron has already started the trolling. Wasn't sure about that guy before.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Friday, 2 June 2017 09:29 (six years ago) link

i think macron secretly wants to literally rule the world. all the military stuff, his ludicrous statement that france hasn't had "a strong leader since napoleon" (senior, i presume).. his quite obvious attempt to seize the world leadership vacuum created by trump by giving a speech in english last night. jsl

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 June 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link

Acting on your best behaviour
Turn your back on mother nature

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 2 June 2017 09:41 (six years ago) link

macron macron what have ye done

D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Friday, 2 June 2017 11:45 (six years ago) link

we're also the only democracy on the planet that still uses a constitution from the 18th century

Can you imagine what the one "we" would write in the 21st century would look like?

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, June 2, 2017 1:02 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I'd love to see what Ryan, McConnell and Trump cook up for Bill of Rights 2.0

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 June 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link

A few more republican governors/state legislatures and you might get your constitutional convention wish...

http://wuwm.com/post/wisconsin-could-become-30th-state-demand-constitutional-convention

black covfefe in bed (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 June 2017 12:50 (six years ago) link

It takes 34 to convene and draft an Amendment, 38 for a convention.

Number of Republican governors: 33

El Tomboto, Friday, 2 June 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link

*blows raspberry*

El Tomboto, Friday, 2 June 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link

thanks, didn't realize we were still 5 away

sleeve, Friday, 2 June 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

On the other hand, it's just a rule. Or a law, or whatever. People increasingly just do whatever they feel regardless of some dumb code of conduct. Maybe the president will just smash open the case where the Constitution is and start writing some new amendments at the bottom in crayon. Why the fuck not.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 June 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link

i wonder how hard it would be to convince trump that the national treasure movies are documentaries

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 2 June 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link

It's like releasing a wild dog in your kitchen and trusting that it'll behave like a person and also cook you a meal. Just give it a chance.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 June 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

xpost If he's seen them, he probably doesn't even need convincing.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 June 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link

People are still out there putting forth the proposition that they should 'just give him a chance' aren't they?
Do they have a default switch off point?

Stevolende, Friday, 2 June 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link


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