Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

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I like Sanpaku's ideas but gonna stick with acid bath or maybe kerosene-soaked suit, ignited, then crashing out of a skyscraper window

El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 June 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

I did at first but the constant doomsaying gets old. I know my kid's future is fucking imperiled and we're all doing the wrong things while nobody is doing the right things but this is not Actual Russia

El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 June 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

oh so there isn't rampant systemic inequality and injustice? thats cool

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

You're kind of an asshole

El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

In the takes one to know one sense

El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

guilty as charged

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link

anyway how anyone can claim the US has ever held moral authority in recent years is beyond me given that leaked memo re: the Saudis / ISIS

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

No one who should be taken seriously has ever said that.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

Corbyn,

"At this time it is more important than ever that we stay united in our communities it is the strength of our communities that gets us through these awful times as London Mayor Sadiq Khan recognised but which the current occupant in the White House has neither the grace nor the sense to grasp."

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

Having a go at the mayor of London

i had already forgotten that that was khan now so when i saw it i just naturally assumed that trump or his trumpettes were having digs at boris, which seemed opportunistic but quite likely valid

j., Sunday, 4 June 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

too low-information to do them any good is i guess what i am saying, i suppose it works better for them when they can do it next to a picture of a brown face

j., Sunday, 4 June 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

the strange thing about trump's ego is we know he craves approval, which makes the paris accords thing so bizarre (and an indication that he and bannon are increasingly isolated and vindictive). americans supported remaining in the paris agreement by a pretty substantial margin iirc -- even republicans were pretty evenly split, i even think i saw some polls saying a plurality favored remaining

But the loud & ignorant wing of his base loved him doing it because it (on paper) accomplished a campaign promise quickly.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 4 June 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

he's just continuing to do the same things that won him the election. if anyone voted for him thinking he would act or think differently in office than he did every day in full public view during the campaign, they were stupid. O else they were self-deceiving, which amounts to the same thing in the end.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 4 June 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

he's a damaged and fucked up person who acts on impulse. it's disgusting and not that interesting. the problem is we built a society where millions of people think it's totally fine for someone to be the way he is, that such a person in fact should be placed in a major leadership role.

Treeship, Sunday, 4 June 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link

Absolutely. Trumps a symptom of a problem, that with 62 million voters, won't go away soon.

The goal til 2019 should be patiently explain to people in the RW bubble the ineptitude and corruption, so that DJT support is under 20% by the time impeachment proceedings start. In support of this, I'd rather like to see some negative stock/real estate market action, and I'll think between corrections of current overvaluations, slow reckoning of the foreign policy disaster and Janet Yellen this will happen. There will still be a handful who think the deep state/MSM/liberals etc stole their president, but that's inevitable. Hopefully RW terrorism will be limited.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Sunday, 4 June 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile, in approval-land: if I'm reading 538's comparison charts of presidential popularity right, we've just passed a major milestone: for about ten days, for the first and possibly last time, Trump was briefly not the least popular postwar president over a given stretch of time at equal distance from inauguration day. Trump of course was starting from the unprecedented-save-Dubya position of starting out with less than majority support, so he's got his work cut out for him - his numbers remain godawful, and seem to be continuing to erode. But enough preamble: it just so happens that Bill Clinton hit his all-time career lows in late May 1993 --- Big Don notches up a major win!

Sadly for Trump fans, even assuming his numbers stay where they are right now, there will be precious few opportunities left to not be the worst-approved president of the last seventy years. Clinton never dipped that low again, so Trump will have to count on remaining slightly less hated than George H.W. during the recession, Nixon in the last stages of Watergate, Dubya after Katrina, etc. Good luck!

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 5 June 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link

looks like he might be able to outperform gerald ford for a little bit, too. ford dipped below 35% for a few weeks, starting on day 159.

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 June 2017 00:45 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah... I was wondering what that was from.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 5 June 2017 00:48 (six years ago) link

i guess i know that right-wing outlets tended to use photos of obama that made him look bad, and political campaigns always inline that way with their opponents, but i'm constantly struck by how openly the MAINSTREAM MEDIA cough photo editors choose images of trump that are just like the nadir of grotesqueness. hard not to see it as confirming that he really is just visibly repulsive if he's not captured in a flattering light. like the still from the video here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/06/04/with-his-london-tweets-trump-embarrasses-himself-and-america-once-again/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.74f61135713b

j., Monday, 5 June 2017 00:57 (six years ago) link

*incline

j., Monday, 5 June 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

While they may not be flattering portraits, Trumpistas still have a vision of Dear Leader as portrayed in the Mark Burnett show. None of the ones I've seen cut into that image.

If you want that image to be supplanted, concentrate on fat-Trump stumbling out of a golf hazard, or fat-Trump riding a golf cart behind the G6. Sooner or later, we'll get fat-Trump stumbling down passenger stairs.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Monday, 5 June 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link

^none of the ones I've seen unflattering images since the election cut into that image.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Monday, 5 June 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link

trying to understand how his mind works is both interesting on its own terms and can help us understand how to beat him?

bullshit, and v doubtful

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 June 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link

depending on one's level of interest, we in NYC have seen how Yam's mind works for 35 years and it's sickmaking rather than "interesting"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 June 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link

I just don't get what there even is to try to understand. He is a straight up asshole who will always choose the worst option just to get his revenge on his enemies (aka the whole world). His only desires are to be admired, to make money, and to undercut anyone who questions him, and he's happy to see the world go to shit as a result. I really don't think this is particularly complicated.

Moodles, Monday, 5 June 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link

Yeah, he is not a complicated man. He is hardly even a man. Trump is like a really bad flu. Shitting and puking and chills and fever, but just have to wait it out and clean up at the end.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 June 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link

The only factor that seems to drive armchair analysis of Trump is utter disbelief. Like, "there's no way he can simply be an asshole, so ..." or "he can't be that stupid, so ..." and so on.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 June 2017 02:24 (six years ago) link

right, if you suspect there's some thought or strategy or reason behind what he's doing beyond pure malice, you are overthinking

Moodles, Monday, 5 June 2017 02:25 (six years ago) link

Lots of people in elite circles are there, in part, *because* they never had to encounter willfully ignorant malignant narcissists in their own families and circles of friends. Of course they respond, "he can't be that stupid."

The people to listen to are the ones who've had to deal with these shits for much of their lives. I only have one sociopath in my family, and it was enough to mean I'll probably never see my mother again. I don't think my burden is a narcissist, though, so I've listened to some in my extended internet community for clues into Trump's behavior.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Monday, 5 June 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link

Many if not most high-ranking politicians and CEOs are narcissists and assholes, so that's the not the key differentiation with Trump. It's the fact that he's a moron. Go read any transcript of any interview he's ever done, it's just a constant stream of nonsensical verbal diarrhea. The guy has literally never had a single interesting thought passing through his head. Even George W. Bush could manage the occasional interesting observation.

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 5 June 2017 03:56 (six years ago) link

“I just want to be clear on this,” CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Haley in an interview set to air Sunday, but which CNN released a portion of Saturday. “You’re not willing to acknowledge that calling climate change a Chinese hoax is just a big box of crazy?”

“President Trump believes the climate is changing and he believes pollutants are part of that equation,” Haley responded. “So that is the fact. That is where we are. That’s where it stands. He knows that it’s changing, he knows that the U.S. has to be responsible with it. And that’s what we’re going to do.”

of course, in trump's equation pollution is multiplied by zero so

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 June 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

or GHG, i mean, which is i guess what haley was referring to

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 June 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

Remember the vice presidential debate when mike pence ascribed like 136 of his own ideas/positions to Trump, even when they directly contradicted things Trump had said? Good times are here to stay.

Treeship, Monday, 5 June 2017 04:13 (six years ago) link

why is Trump making John Roberts' job harder

People, the lawyers and the courts can call it whatever they want, but I am calling it what we need and what it is, a TRAVEL BAN!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 5, 2017

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 June 2017 10:29 (six years ago) link

The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 5, 2017

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 June 2017 10:36 (six years ago) link

someone woke up cranky today

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 10:47 (six years ago) link

Ha ha, keep it up, you petulant asshole, just tell it how it is, man!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 June 2017 11:36 (six years ago) link

i guess he doesn't understand that part of the reason it's been held up by the courts is that he's insisted on calling it a TRAVEL BAN before?

it's like he's making an extra-special effort to fuck up his own case with the supreme court

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 11:43 (six years ago) link

5d chess baby, 5d chess

stet, Monday, 5 June 2017 11:47 (six years ago) link

I find it so lame that the right wing pushes this "the liberal media is biased against Trump and out to get him line." No, the liberal media, like a huge swath of people, hate his fucking guts, because he is indeed a piece of shit. Just like the right wing media hated Obama, but in that case, it was based on an illusion, not Obama's statements and actions. Trump ... just what a piece of shit. In an ideal world, when he's gone in 4 years, or 8 years, or 4 months or who knows, I hope no one ever forgets the pieces of shit that supported this piece of shit, and never lets them forget, either.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 June 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link

Also, let's not forget that, as demonstrated this morning, no one has quite the same tenacity in trying to take down Trump as does Trump himself.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:00 (six years ago) link

I'm looking forward to his exegeses on racial epithets and who is allowed to use them. Should be enlightening.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:01 (six years ago) link

no one has quite the same tenacity in trying to take down Trump as does Trump himself

unfortunately he's maintaining his lifelong, near-unbroken record of failure on this one too

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:10 (six years ago) link

Hah, biz. Sad but true.

kajagoogoo's kazooist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link

it's all pretty much fucked. as much as the racists were pissed a black guy was president, the fair-minded on the planet seem nonplussed there's a spoiled fat self-destructive asshole rich kid, born on third base, in the white house, a bully in the international order. and to think what america used to symbolize, jeez louise

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:34 (six years ago) link

not to get all trenchant but 'what america used to symbolise', outside the states anyway, was just as much slavery, foreign interventionism and gun violence as it was truth, justice and the american way

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:39 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not into this mythic version of America I've seen bubbling up lately in reaction to the rise of Trump. This place has had its fair share of issues for the entirety of its existence. I mean, we allowed Trump to run for president and then we elected him president. You don't do that if you're an untroubled people.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link

It's the lib version of MAGA, and it's NAGL.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link


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