remember when ilx was all knowingly 'lol it's like the end-of-season-finale!' over like news international phone tapping or whatever
little did we know in a couple of years every day would be a dogpile of end-of-season-finales
― he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
Three months after President Trump abruptly fired half of the nation’s 93 United States attorneys, following the resignations of the other half, he has yet to replace a single one.“Dems are taking forever to approve my people,” the president said in a statement he released on Twitter Monday morning. “They are nothing but OBSTRUCTIONISTS! Want approvals.”The problem is, the Democrats couldn’t obstruct any United States attorney nominations if they wanted to because Mr. Trump has not made any.
“Dems are taking forever to approve my people,” the president said in a statement he released on Twitter Monday morning. “They are nothing but OBSTRUCTIONISTS! Want approvals.”
The problem is, the Democrats couldn’t obstruct any United States attorney nominations if they wanted to because Mr. Trump has not made any.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/opinion/us-attorneys-trump.html
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
sorry, meant to add an "..." between the first and second paragraphs there, as i removed some pieces for maximum ilx readability
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
http://www.avclub.com/article/hero-motorists-provide-endless-laughs-covfefe-lice-256347
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
"Mommy is taking forever to warm my milk up. She is nothing but an OBSTRUCTIONIST! Want baba!'
― Prince & the Yearbook Committee - '2cool2B4gotten' b/w 'LYLAS' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
...by someone who threw away all the milk
― godley and creamsicle (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
I never knew before that feeling disgust toward a human being could be such a multivalent affair, with new and previously-unimagined layers of deep loathing revealing themselves daily and sometimes even hourly.
It's also just amazing to occasionally realize that there's absolutely nothing redeeming about the man. Like, even shit has utility. But this guy?
― Prince & the Yearbook Committee - '2cool2B4gotten' b/w 'LYLAS' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
Oh I cannot wait
OMG, Bob Costa reports that in lieu of "war room," Trump intends to be "his own messenger" and will tweet WHILE Comey testifies. /1— Sybill Trelawney (@SybilT2) June 6, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
I mean, he's done it before, obv. But this will be extra ridiculous.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
As said tweeter notes further, anything Trump posts becomes admissable evidence down the line.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
Has anyone actually explained to Trump that he isn't on WWE?
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link
YES YES YES
― frogbs, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie comments on Trump’s tweets: “Twitter is a great tool when used the right way” https://t.co/gIGCxuywxI— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) June 6, 2017
It is, isn't it.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
Hey man...maybe WE'RE all in WWE, and THAT is reality.
http://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Five-Bongs-One-Breath-.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/84/80/6a/84806afeb5e20a1dd2374e95b62a5c2b.gif
― nomar, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
Does NED RAGGETT smoke weed? xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
He's so MAD at Sessions for RECUSING himself. Because that's what SAD LOSERS do. WINNERS do as much as possible to throw themselves under the BUS. Like dumb FUCKS.
― Prince & the Yearbook Committee - '2cool2B4gotten' b/w 'LYLAS' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
This is interesting and also kinda disheartening: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/6/15740118/new-jersey-governor
Especially this part: The best opportunities for Democrats to win general elections come in states like New Jersey that are traditionally left-leaning. And yet it’s exactly these same blue states where the party’s establishment is also strongest, and therefore where they’re most capable of putting down the insurgents trying to fundamentally reshape the kinds of candidates the Democratic Party puts forward.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
Take heart -- interesting things quietly happening in Nevada
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/6/15731622/nevada-medicaid-for-all
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link
Four top law firms turned down requests to represent Trump
“The concerns were, ‘The guy won’t pay and he won’t listen,’”
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link
CA statewide single-payer bill also just passed the state Senate and is now in the Assembly.
Kamala Harris has also endorsed single-payer on the national level
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link
Here's the clip of Costa talking about Trump livetweeting Comey
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/trump-will-live-tweet-during-testimony-of-former-fbi-director-james-comey-report/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link
Twitter Chris Christie is a great tool when used the right way."
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link
The greatest tool, bigly, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
a yes, being your own lawyer. real smart guys always act as their own lawyer. =|
“I was just talking to some White House officials this morning and their view is that the president himself wants to be the messenger, his own warrior, his own lawyer, his own spokesman,” Costa explained. “Some outside people, some surrogates will be available.”
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link
what are the chances this will become law?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link
re the Intercept-Reality story that Shakey and the rest of our journalism/security pundits weighed in on...
i don't buy the idea that the "crease" in the leaked doc was an important clue--they would have checked print records no matter what— Max Read (@max_read) June 5, 2017
she printed the doc and emailed from work, more than enough for the feds to have identified. playing up the crease is dirty tricks— Max Read (@max_read) June 5, 2017
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
took some arm-twisting in the Senate, and the Assembly has to actually find the money for it - which will be tricky (a committee review suggested a 15% payroll tax to cover the estimate $400 billion cost) so I dunno, hard to say. Dems have 2/3rds majorities in each chamber, and I don't see Brown vetoing it if the money is there, so it's possible. There's some question of whether federal funds could be used as well.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/01/california-senate-passes-single-payer-health-care-plan/
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link
xp
was there a reason why she couldn't take screenshots of the documents and print those instead of the documents themselves
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link
this thread from an infosec linux kernel dev is fair imo
It's about 10PM, my partner's in Tokyo, I've been to Ikea and hung a pair of curtains on my own. Of course I have thoughts on The Intercept.— Matthew Garrett (@mjg59) June 6, 2017
in particular
Now yes *we* know that there are many other things to worry about, but when a user follows the documentation and loses anyway that's *bad*— Matthew Garrett (@mjg59) June 6, 2017
If you have a page that encourages people to break the law, you owe it to them to provide enough information to help them assess the risks— Matthew Garrett (@mjg59) June 6, 2017
so yes this is on the intercept
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link
xposts i've been meaning to ask about that - what did the intercept do that revealed the source? as max mentioned, they didn't erase the crease, which would tip off investigators that it was printed somewhere and folded before it was provided to the intercept. ooook. was there anything else? i haven't seen anything else mentioned to demonstrate that the intercept fucked up. but then again i'm just fucking around drinking coffee here so maybe i missed something.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
also can we just keep posting max tweets in here so we can pretend he still posts here regularly? miss having him here.
screenshots would have been traceable by document access records. apparently only 5 people accessed the docs.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
thanks shakey re: CA healthcare. moving there this weekend, mah wife on the obamacare.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link
i don't know if "If you have a page that encourages people to break the law, you owe it to them to provide enough information to help them assess the risks" is damning enough for me.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
fair point; I was thinking that the accounting was for who printed the documents rather than accessed them (I've only skim-read the accounts of this so far)
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
i was reading the equivalent page at the NYT earlier. it's no better.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
xpost caek beat me to it, but:
NYT tips on tips: https://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2016/news-tips/Intercept tips on tips: https://theintercept.com/leak/
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
anyways i think it's fair to put some blame on the intercept but i think the kneejerk reaction last night assigning 100% blame to them was way off
it sucks to blame the victim but it seems like she proceeded in a pretty stupid way
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
KM: NSA’s Latest Leak Debacle Explained
According to the FBI affidavit, she emailed The Intercept from her NSA unclassified computer system—notwithstanding that such systems are clearly marked with a sticker cautioning users that they consent to employer monitoring by logging on.On May 9, Winner searched NSA’s internal computer network, which contains highly classified intelligence, and found the just-issued report about GRU cyber shenanigans, printed it off, snuck it out of her office, and mailed it to The Intercept. She thereby left an easily found audit trail, since NSA tracks all printing off classified systems, plus Winner was one of only six people in the whole agency who printed that particular report.Her downfall came on May 30, when representatives of The Intercept approached NSA, seeking comment on their hot scoop based on a stolen NSA report. The agency, true to form, declined to comment, but by showing NSA the purloined assessment, the inept muckrakers sealed Winner’s fate.This is because the agency can easily determine exactly where and when a document was printed inside any NSA office worldwide. Quick analysis revealed a very short list of suspects, and Winner was high on it.
On May 9, Winner searched NSA’s internal computer network, which contains highly classified intelligence, and found the just-issued report about GRU cyber shenanigans, printed it off, snuck it out of her office, and mailed it to The Intercept. She thereby left an easily found audit trail, since NSA tracks all printing off classified systems, plus Winner was one of only six people in the whole agency who printed that particular report.
Her downfall came on May 30, when representatives of The Intercept approached NSA, seeking comment on their hot scoop based on a stolen NSA report. The agency, true to form, declined to comment, but by showing NSA the purloined assessment, the inept muckrakers sealed Winner’s fate.
This is because the agency can easily determine exactly where and when a document was printed inside any NSA office worldwide. Quick analysis revealed a very short list of suspects, and Winner was high on it.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link
ah, only 6 printers. none of the tradecraft would have been necessary in that situation. i don't agree with max's point that that alluding to potential scary tradecraft that probably wasn't actually used (folds, pink dots, steganography) is chilling dirty tricks though. it's important for potential leakers to know about the ways they can be identified (and for intercept to better document them).
fwiw the pink dot laser print thing is apparently well known, although i'd never heard of it
the random whitespace may also be identifying steganography
There's also a few character-space breadcrumbs in the document. Wow. This leaker wasn't careful at all. pic.twitter.com/9usYecqEKk— PSU (@DisarmPSU) June 6, 2017
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
xp caek: I'm sure a lot more than 5 accessed the file (if any 90 day contract linguist had access). But only six printed it out.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
the reason there are so few whistleblowers is cuz it's personally perilous. esp if you don't know all that stuff, apparently.
i think the kneejerk reaction last night assigning 100% blame to them was way off
but fuckin' BERNIEBROS amirite
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
A hard read
https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertsamaha/kids-are-quoting-trump-to-bully-their-classmates
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
Basically, deal with a reputable news outlet with an experienced national security desk, don't send hard copy. Reading the contents to a NYT/WaPo/etc. transcriber via a out of state pay phone / cash purchased burner phone is the minimum I'd do.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
Reality Winner and Intercept both bungled it, never meant to imply otherwise. "Amateur hour" is what I said, and I think that covers it.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
Sanpaku otm
When you're documenting a process that could land someone in jail for the rest of their life (or worse), your documentation should be *good*— Matthew Garrett (@mjg59) June 6, 2017
this plus their experts seem to have done a terrible job of debriefing the leaker to figure out how to minimize risk to them.
not obvious the NYT would have done any better.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
Ah, it was the print audit that was her downfall, not the access audit. I'm going back to my original question.
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link