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To clarify, I don't think it's a capital-s, Slippin' Jimmy-esque 'scam'. Just your garden variety instance of someone seeing an opening and taking a little more advantage than is necessary.

okay, now that we're past the episode airing: the pratfall with odenkirk is NOT him taking the fall even though you see his face turn to the camera and walk away and then hit the ground. really seamless digital fx imo

I like how like half the people in this world are actual geniuses

K-hole MacLachlan (wins), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

Like walt's incredible problem-solving skills are only a match for... mike gus jimmy kim nacho & chuck

K-hole MacLachlan (wins), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

(oh and hank)

K-hole MacLachlan (wins), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link

Nacho's pill swap last night was about as close as this show has come to Breaking Bad-level tension ratcheting.

― Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Tuesday, June 6, 2017 6:22 AM (seventeen hours ago)

i was literally hiding inside my shirt!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 June 2017 03:46 (six years ago) link

otm about hank. btw i watched this episode with, for the first time, my roommate, and we discovered we're the only 2 people in the world who like hank howard

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 June 2017 03:47 (six years ago) link

hank AND howard

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 June 2017 03:50 (six years ago) link

no way, because i like them both! as characters, at least. the guy who plays howard does a fantastic job in bcs

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 03:54 (six years ago) link

we both agreed that howard was a decent guy, in the show's world

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 June 2017 03:56 (six years ago) link

he's definitely not a bad guy according to the standards of behavior of his firm. almost all of the main bcs characters have some sort of family issue driving them or influencing them, or at least a friendship. but howard is just this elite law firm guy. that's his entire world. it's sad that it sort of seems like chuck might be his only "friend", and even that is on a very professional level. he's surrounded by elite cutthroats, and within that context he often seems to act more humanely than he's expected to.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link

yeah he's a snob and a douchebag but he has integrity

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:20 (six years ago) link

the jacket scene was amazing - sort of goes to the heart of the show, and their willingness to make great scenes above all else. i mean it prob would have been a lot easier to just wait until don hector goes to the bathroom or something, but fuck that.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 10:04 (six years ago) link

I thought Don Hector was gonna notice something about Nacho dropping the pills in his jacket as a sort of reference to when he noticed out of the corner of his eye Walt poisoning Tuco's burrito in BB.

nashwan, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 10:37 (six years ago) link

nacho also could have changed the pills in the bathroom.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 10:43 (six years ago) link

they should have showed an "out of order" sign on the bathroom at the beginning of the scene to explain why he didn't use either of my ideas

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 10:43 (six years ago) link

spend a few episodes building up don hector's disgust towards anyone so weak as to take bathroom breaks while working

we both agreed that howard was a decent guy, in the show's world

I still can't forgive Howard for sending Kim to work in the basement (I know HHM paid her tuition fees but still)

paolo, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:15 (six years ago) link

loved both "no sit, please" exchanges in the restaurant. he treated her like a dog and she threw it back at him.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

Howard definitely has his own douchey tendencies (see exchange in previous post), but it's important to keep in mind that his douchiest actions have been at Chuck's behest.

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link

this does feel like 4 or 5 different shows at the moment, and while I enjoy each plotline to varying degrees I hope at least a few of them get tied together by season's end

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

Chuck's rehabilitation is probably the most interesting development

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

like what if he turns over a new leaf, gets better, tries to make amends w Jimmy and Jimmy just crucifies him out of spite

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

Kinda feel like Chuck is only interesting in how he relates to Jimmy, I don't really care about his rehabilitation as a plotline but I am interested in more career fratricide or petty revenge.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

It would be totally credible for Hank to turn up in this next season though, right?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

I was thinking that exact thing a couple of weeks ago when Hector's truck got busted. One of the few BB regulars whose appearance wouldn't feel shoehorned in at this point in the narrative.

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link

was wondering if the "rhymes with mug mealer" guy was a BB minor character? I didn't recognize him

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

hank is kinda busy with claws right now

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

Poor Kim. As soon as the scene started, it was obvious where it was going, but it was still pretty heartbreaking. The editing to indicate what had happened was perfect.

Every episode has one or two shots that are so audacious they make me laugh out loud, like shooting Mike straight up from under Lydia's desk.

Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:44 (six years ago) link

I think that the answer to how Jimmy and Kim fall out is now past the hinting around phase. They just seem to be on two completely different tracks now.

Howard thinking that Chuck had sent over his resignation letter, though, are you kidding me? Of course he's suing them!

mh, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

jimmy's low-level sleaze really moving up to a higher degree of unpleasant manipulativeness than i think we've seen before here

Yeah duping the old lady was straight up Saul.

nashwan, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

shit, that was the penultimate episode this season? :(

kinder, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link

The sandpiper routine was a classic better call Saul scheme but the casual cruelty of it with Jimmy making the woman's life miserable for his own gain was like something out of the sopranos

more like matthew badlose (wins), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link

i think the jimmy storyline is the least interesting to me at this point

k3vin k., Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

btw that scene a couple of weeks back when mike found a corpse with a metal detector, were we supposed to know what was going on there?

Not sure. I assumed he was tipped off to its location by Gus and that Hector will be somehow implicated in the death but nothing was made explicit afaik. All will presumably be revealed next week.

I'm thinking they can't possibly have more than one season of flashbacks left at this point. I'd love the series to continue, though, so I hope they're setting us up for the continuing adventures of Gene Gene the Cinnabon Machine.

The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T & the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

I do have a sentimental hope that Gene meets up with Kim somehow and they live happily ever after scamming people at the mall

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link

i thought the corpse in the desert was related to the woman that he met at the church? didn't she have a husband that went missing? and then when they showed the corpse they made a point of showing the wedding ring on the finger. i have no idea how he found the body, though. tbh i have been baffled about mike's storyline for most of this season simply because i forgot what happened during the last season and there hasn't really been a good recap of it at any point.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

also i'm concurrently rewatching breaking bad and i'm starting to mix up all of mike's storylines

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

jimmy's low-level sleaze really moving up to a higher degree of unpleasant manipulativeness than i think we've seen before here

― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:00 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kinda reminded me of walt in that they're slowly pushing him into clear 'just an asshole huh' territory. I guess they have always been building that up with childhood stories etc. this did feel like a break w/ the previous jimmy-being-jimmy schemes though, like it seemed designed to make you hate him. there's no 'she had it coming' here - he's just making an innocent old lady feel super alienated and terrible.

iatee, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

I thought the corpse was the driver mike got killed and has felt guilty about and now he'll get a decent burial.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

ditto

Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

i have no fucking clue what's going on

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

I thought the corpse was the driver mike got killed and has felt guilty about and now he'll get a decent burial.

this was my assumption as well

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

Same here. Would've thought they'd remove rings and whatnot from the people they kill thought. FULL MEASURE.

nashwan, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link

i was with zs on the "helping the nice church lady getting over the killing of her husband" motive

the slight eyeroll of mike re the guy on the segway was gratuitous and appreciated.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 15 June 2017 04:52 (six years ago) link

this kid they got to play Young Chuck did a really good job of capturing his speech patterns

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link

holy shit chuck

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 02:49 (six years ago) link

holy shit at Gus being so... Gus... that he tries to save Hector

mh, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link


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