thanks sanpaku
i suppose it is clear that someone at the intercept should have asked reality a few more questions about how she went about obtaining the document, esp before approaching the nsa
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
xp what do you take the screenshot with? how do you get it out of the building? there are good answers but it's not obviously more secure then printing to a non infosec specialist.
anyway how about those russians
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
What's interesting here is that I've seen reports that they went to not the NSA, but another source within the NSA, which would mean the IC is putting out "sources" to journalists at even lesser known outlets to collect CI on internal leaks.
I'd assume the contractors are required to deposit their phones at entry. There are USB/keychain spy cameras with enough resolution that one could quickly take a couple shots of each screen, then transcribe on one's own computer during off-time, print, delete and zero out all unallocated disk space with wipe tools.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
Sanpaku is at the point that the meandering post I just wrote eventually got to, so I'll delete mine and just say "^^^ yeah, that"
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
Its odd this is giving me a desire to own spy gadgets that would have zero utility in my life.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
haha same
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
spymall has some good shit
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
It just so happens that in this case, an act of due diligence appears to have turned into a lead for a leak investigation. The Intercept also passed along a copy of the document to the government as part of its reporting process — and that apparently contained some clues as well. “The U.S. Government Agency examined the document shared by the News Outlet and determined the pages of the intelligence reporting appeared to be folded and/or creased, suggesting they had been printed and hand-carried out of a secured space,” says one of the court documents.
Yet the mistakes of the leaker before the Intercept even received the document would likely have sealed her fate, regardless of any clumsiness by the reporter in verifying the scoop. It’s apparent that the document came straight out of the blue, with little or no instructions as to sensitivity and handling. The Intercept’s story itself indicates that the document was supplied “anonymously” to the Intercept. “The Intercept has no knowledge of the identity of the source,” says the website in a statement.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/06/06/did-the-intercept-bungle-nsa-leak/
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
Waiting to see when Corker finally gives up.
Just informed Senate Foreign Relations Chair Corker of what Trump tweeted about Qatar and was met with about 8 seconds of stunned silence— Matt Laslo (@MattLaslo) June 6, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
Corker said he hadn't seen the tweets and needs to go read them before saying more. Says managing diffs bt Arab allies is important policy https://t.co/TpSZxtjl48— Todd Zwillich (@toddzwillich) June 6, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
He's really going to go the whole day without commemorating D-Day, isn't he...
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
Meanwhile...
Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) says it's possible the Senate will opt for a short-term plan to stabilize Obamacare markets.— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) June 6, 2017
Yeah, have fun with that.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
Corker will never give up
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
Given that his Vietnam was avoiding crabs, I hesitate to think what his D-Day is.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
His hand could be forced. And Trump's happily doing the forcing.
The Intercept’s story itself indicates that the document was supplied “anonymously” to the Intercept. “The Intercept has no knowledge of the identity of the source,” says the website in a statement.
sorry to dive back into this, but..here we go.
i was going to bring this up earlier, when i realized that it was possible that the intercept might not have asked Reality some questions about how she obtained the document because they didn't know who she was. i don't know the answer to this, but should a publisher responsible for confirming the identity of the leaker before publishing leaked documents, even if they can confirm the authenticity of the documents?
hypothetically, what if they received a completely anonymous tip with the trump piss tape, and were able to confirm that yes, that is trump juggling his balls in the background while piss is flying left and right in the foreground? ethically, should the publisher hold off on publishing the leaked piss tape because they can't guarantee the safety of the leaker?
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
Leave it to Lindsey
Sen Graham: "I don't believe Trump colluded with the Russians because I don't think he colludes with his own staff."— Erica Werner (@ericawerner) June 6, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
oh cool a backhanded insult that nevertheless reinforces Trump's preferred narrative, that's helpful
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
"Trump does it all on his own, plus Russia story is FAKE NEWS!"
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link
My increasing vision of Trump in general
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgHXHtHSsNo
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/336541-dems-up-7-points-in-party-affiliation
but will it be enough to overcome democratic voter apathy plus dirty "conservative" tricks (voter roll purges, too few polling stations in democratic districts, russian interference, etc)? what a fucking country
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
but her emails!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
xpostif they keep this single payer thing up to any degree, i think it will
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
xp Ned: It certainly makes his Paris withdrawal more tolerable.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
from another Hill story:
Republicans are already nervously looking at the House landscape, where Democrats believe a path to the majority can be forged through districts held by Republicans that were lost or just narrowly won by Trump.
A Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll showed that Trump’s approval rating among Republicans has dipped below 75 percent.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
hmm that's a new low re: Reuters
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
likely to go lower after Thursday, I expect
the (eric) trump foundation is the gift that keeps on giving. these fucking dirtbag grifters...
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
Makes sense:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exclusive-comey-stop-short-trump-obstructed-justice-flynn/story?id=47865739
There will be much in former FBI Director James Comey’s upcoming congressional testimony that will make the White House uncomfortable, but he will stop short of saying the president interfered with the agency's probe into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, a source familiar with Comey's thinking told ABC News.Although Comey has told associates he will not accuse the President of obstructing justice, he will dispute the president’s contention that Comey told him three times he is not under investigation.The president allegedly said he hoped Comey would drop the Flynn investigation, a request that concerned Comey enough that he documented the conversation in a memo shortly after speaking with the president. In the memo, according to sources close to Comey who reviewed it, Trump said: "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go," during a February meeting.The request made Comey uncomfortable, but the source tells ABC News that Comey has told associates he will not accuse the President of obstructing justice.“He is not going to Congress to make accusations about the President’s intent, instead he’s there to share his concerns,” the source said, and tell the committee “what made him uneasy” and why he felt a need to write the memo documenting the conversation.Some legal experts told ABC News that Trump's requests as detailed in the memo, which ABC News has not seen, could meet the legal definition of obstruction.Comey told associates he plans to testify that despite the unusual request from the president he believed strongly that if he did his job properly he could conduct the investigation in an honest way.
Although Comey has told associates he will not accuse the President of obstructing justice, he will dispute the president’s contention that Comey told him three times he is not under investigation.
The president allegedly said he hoped Comey would drop the Flynn investigation, a request that concerned Comey enough that he documented the conversation in a memo shortly after speaking with the president. In the memo, according to sources close to Comey who reviewed it, Trump said: "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go," during a February meeting.
The request made Comey uncomfortable, but the source tells ABC News that Comey has told associates he will not accuse the President of obstructing justice.
“He is not going to Congress to make accusations about the President’s intent, instead he’s there to share his concerns,” the source said, and tell the committee “what made him uneasy” and why he felt a need to write the memo documenting the conversation.
Some legal experts told ABC News that Trump's requests as detailed in the memo, which ABC News has not seen, could meet the legal definition of obstruction.
Comey told associates he plans to testify that despite the unusual request from the president he believed strongly that if he did his job properly he could conduct the investigation in an honest way.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
1-2-3
Corey/Bossie chatter about joining WH was theatrics and media misdirection, Trump-world source tells me: "Something we enjoy doing."— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) June 6, 2017
They enjoy making their existing staff think their jobs are about to be "re-engineered" with enemies from campaign infighting? https://t.co/vz1PUnJDE2— Josh Barro (@jbarro) June 6, 2017
Actually, they probably do enjoy that.— Josh Barro (@jbarro) June 6, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
yeah that's about what I expect
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
But it also fits in with the whole 'I MEANT to do that' excuse and explanation for almost everything they've done.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
Presume mayor jingleberries is referring to our next scheduled minute of hate:
How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business
The best part about all this, according to Eric Trump, is the charity's efficiency: Because he can get his family's golf course for free and have most of the other costs donated, virtually all the money contributed will go toward helping kids with cancer. "We get to use our assets 100% free of charge," Trump tells Forbes.That's not the case. In reviewing filings from the Eric Trump Foundation and other charities, it's clear that the course wasn't free--that the Trump Organization received payments for its use, part of more than $1.2 million that has no documented recipients past the Trump Organization. Golf charity experts say the listed expenses defy any reasonable cost justification for a one-day golf tournament.
That's not the case. In reviewing filings from the Eric Trump Foundation and other charities, it's clear that the course wasn't free--that the Trump Organization received payments for its use, part of more than $1.2 million that has no documented recipients past the Trump Organization. Golf charity experts say the listed expenses defy any reasonable cost justification for a one-day golf tournament.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
In other news...annnnnnd take two!
The Senate is likely to allow state waivers of ACA regs, but not ones protecting people with pre-ex conditions. https://t.co/KT1ji7lIjB— Caitlin Owens (@caitlinnowens) June 6, 2017
Yes, this is literally the same conversation from two/three months back.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
Trump has dinner with Marco Rubio and Tom Cotton at the White House tonight. Both senators will question James Comey on Thursday.— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) June 6, 2017
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
Totally misread the above as 'How Donald Trump Shitted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business'.
― Prince & the Yearbook Committee - '2cool2B4gotten' b/w 'LYLAS' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
Some tools are effective, others not so much
Spicer defends Pres Trump's use of Twitter. Calls him "the most effective messenger of his agenda" and Twitter "a very effective tool." pic.twitter.com/SQS2GMcRQQ— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) June 6, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
Also, ya gotta wonder
Wow -- @PressSec cannot say whether the president has confidence in his Attorney General.— Jonathan Karl (@jonkarl) June 6, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link
@PressSec cannot say whether the president understands the meaning of the word 'confidence'.
― Prince & the Yearbook Committee - '2cool2B4gotten' b/w 'LYLAS' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
“The snake has said all he’s going to say about the matter.” - Sean Spicer at the Garden of Eden— Conan O'Brien (@ConanOBrien) May 25, 2017
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
@PressSec cannot
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
I wonder if teetotaler Trump offers his guests cocktails, wine, or Trump wine.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link
or pee pee
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link
btw re these infrastructure plans
The public-private partnership model now favored by Trump administration officials is being spearheaded by White House economic adviser Gary Cohn and Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao. “We like the template of not using taxpayer dollars to give taxpayers wins,” Cohn told reporters on Friday, explaining his preference for the asset-recycling approach.
But many fear that such privatization schemes simply shift the burden from taxpayers to motorists and truckers, while creating a two-tier system that unfairly impairs the ability of low-income drivers from accessing the nation’s interstate highway system. In the process, a small group of investors reap the most rewards.
Cohn and Chao, notably, have ties to the financial firms positioned to exploit the tolling of America’s highways. Cohn is the former chief operating officer of Goldman Sachs and Chao is a former board member to Wells Fargo. Both firms have expressed interest in toll road deals. Though both Cohn and Chao have said they will recuse themselves from matters that directly affect their former companies, it is unclear if they will recuse themselves from private-public infrastructure policies that will attract interest from investment banks.
The rush to embrace a public-private model based on tolling and other private financing methods is seen as a political winner that can bring infrastructure-friendly Democrats together with Republicans concerned about the cost to taxpayers. But the short-term solution based on political expedience may have long-lasting societal impacts.
Alan Pisarski, a travel consultant, noted in a recent column that the fundamental justification for the interstate system was to connect America for military, economic, and social reasons. There was a reason the first 50 years of the national highway system prohibited tolling.
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/06/private-toll-operators-love-trump-infrastructure-plan/
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link
plan has no support in congress, there's no bill etc.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
“We like the template of not using taxpayer dollars to give taxpayers wins,”
You know what gives tax payers wins? Shit they can actually use.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
I wonder if Trump understands that even if he did nothing re: Russia, he can still get/be in a lot of trouble just for being a dishonest dickhead?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
Trump doesn't understand how to tie his shoes
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
the big infrastructure idea is PPI? and tolling the interstate?? lol great ideas, keep em comin
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
sorry i mean PPP (or PFI, or whatever t f)