we both agreed that howard was a decent guy, in the show's world
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 June 2017 03:56 (six years ago) link
he's definitely not a bad guy according to the standards of behavior of his firm. almost all of the main bcs characters have some sort of family issue driving them or influencing them, or at least a friendship. but howard is just this elite law firm guy. that's his entire world. it's sad that it sort of seems like chuck might be his only "friend", and even that is on a very professional level. he's surrounded by elite cutthroats, and within that context he often seems to act more humanely than he's expected to.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link
yeah he's a snob and a douchebag but he has integrity
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:20 (six years ago) link
the jacket scene was amazing - sort of goes to the heart of the show, and their willingness to make great scenes above all else. i mean it prob would have been a lot easier to just wait until don hector goes to the bathroom or something, but fuck that.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 10:04 (six years ago) link
I thought Don Hector was gonna notice something about Nacho dropping the pills in his jacket as a sort of reference to when he noticed out of the corner of his eye Walt poisoning Tuco's burrito in BB.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 10:37 (six years ago) link
nacho also could have changed the pills in the bathroom.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 10:43 (six years ago) link
they should have showed an "out of order" sign on the bathroom at the beginning of the scene to explain why he didn't use either of my ideas
spend a few episodes building up don hector's disgust towards anyone so weak as to take bathroom breaks while working
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 11:33 (six years ago) link
I still can't forgive Howard for sending Kim to work in the basement (I know HHM paid her tuition fees but still)
― paolo, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:15 (six years ago) link
loved both "no sit, please" exchanges in the restaurant. he treated her like a dog and she threw it back at him.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
Howard definitely has his own douchey tendencies (see exchange in previous post), but it's important to keep in mind that his douchiest actions have been at Chuck's behest.
― Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
this does feel like 4 or 5 different shows at the moment, and while I enjoy each plotline to varying degrees I hope at least a few of them get tied together by season's end
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
Chuck's rehabilitation is probably the most interesting development
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
like what if he turns over a new leaf, gets better, tries to make amends w Jimmy and Jimmy just crucifies him out of spite
Kinda feel like Chuck is only interesting in how he relates to Jimmy, I don't really care about his rehabilitation as a plotline but I am interested in more career fratricide or petty revenge.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
It would be totally credible for Hank to turn up in this next season though, right?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
I was thinking that exact thing a couple of weeks ago when Hector's truck got busted. One of the few BB regulars whose appearance wouldn't feel shoehorned in at this point in the narrative.
― Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
was wondering if the "rhymes with mug mealer" guy was a BB minor character? I didn't recognize him
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
hank is kinda busy with claws right now
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
Poor Kim. As soon as the scene started, it was obvious where it was going, but it was still pretty heartbreaking. The editing to indicate what had happened was perfect.
Every episode has one or two shots that are so audacious they make me laugh out loud, like shooting Mike straight up from under Lydia's desk.
― Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:44 (six years ago) link
I think that the answer to how Jimmy and Kim fall out is now past the hinting around phase. They just seem to be on two completely different tracks now.
Howard thinking that Chuck had sent over his resignation letter, though, are you kidding me? Of course he's suing them!
― mh, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
jimmy's low-level sleaze really moving up to a higher degree of unpleasant manipulativeness than i think we've seen before here
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link
Yeah duping the old lady was straight up Saul.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link
shit, that was the penultimate episode this season? :(
― kinder, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link
The sandpiper routine was a classic better call Saul scheme but the casual cruelty of it with Jimmy making the woman's life miserable for his own gain was like something out of the sopranos
― more like matthew badlose (wins), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link
i think the jimmy storyline is the least interesting to me at this point
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
btw that scene a couple of weeks back when mike found a corpse with a metal detector, were we supposed to know what was going on there?
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
Not sure. I assumed he was tipped off to its location by Gus and that Hector will be somehow implicated in the death but nothing was made explicit afaik. All will presumably be revealed next week.
I'm thinking they can't possibly have more than one season of flashbacks left at this point. I'd love the series to continue, though, so I hope they're setting us up for the continuing adventures of Gene Gene the Cinnabon Machine.
― The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T & the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
I do have a sentimental hope that Gene meets up with Kim somehow and they live happily ever after scamming people at the mall
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
i thought the corpse in the desert was related to the woman that he met at the church? didn't she have a husband that went missing? and then when they showed the corpse they made a point of showing the wedding ring on the finger. i have no idea how he found the body, though. tbh i have been baffled about mike's storyline for most of this season simply because i forgot what happened during the last season and there hasn't really been a good recap of it at any point.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link
also i'm concurrently rewatching breaking bad and i'm starting to mix up all of mike's storylines
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:00 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
kinda reminded me of walt in that they're slowly pushing him into clear 'just an asshole huh' territory. I guess they have always been building that up with childhood stories etc. this did feel like a break w/ the previous jimmy-being-jimmy schemes though, like it seemed designed to make you hate him. there's no 'she had it coming' here - he's just making an innocent old lady feel super alienated and terrible.
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link
I thought the corpse was the driver mike got killed and has felt guilty about and now he'll get a decent burial.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
ditto
― Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
i have no fucking clue what's going on
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
this was my assumption as well
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
Same here. Would've thought they'd remove rings and whatnot from the people they kill thought. FULL MEASURE.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link
i was with zs on the "helping the nice church lady getting over the killing of her husband" motive
the slight eyeroll of mike re the guy on the segway was gratuitous and appreciated.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 15 June 2017 04:52 (six years ago) link
this kid they got to play Young Chuck did a really good job of capturing his speech patterns
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link
holy shit chuck
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 02:49 (six years ago) link
holy shit at Gus being so... Gus... that he tries to save Hector
― mh, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link
the "talking saul" aftershow has the howard actor talking about his character is awesome
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link
Holy shit Chuck, several times over.
An episode ago, I would have (and believe I did itt) said that we only had another season left in the pre-BB world, but they managed to roll back a few developments that I thought were coming to a head (Jimmy going full Saul, Jimmy and Kim drifting apart).
Weird that Mike was completely absent from the season finale.
― I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 03:29 (six years ago) link
wow odenkirk is so grey in real life
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link
that was their best episode to date imo
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 04:42 (six years ago) link
honestly, I didn't miss Mike at all. I get why people like the character and his plots but they are not what I go to this show for primarily tbh
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link
Interesting that they'd have us think Chuck was better when he wasn't and that Jimmy was now fully Saul only for him to roll back too.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link
Well, he was better, but he had one hell of a relapse. Mental health is a process of maintenance.
I was really hopeful when he called the doctor's office, because he should have been seeing if he could get in sooner. :(
― mh, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link
feeling pretty vindicated as a howard stan
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link
interesting that the two characters in this universe easiest to stereotype as douchebags (howard, hank) end up being the decentest people in their shows
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link