the right's pushback against Comey is predictably robust, they know when to circle the wagons
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 June 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link
don't think I've seen a single statement or line from anybody on the right (much less from GOP elected officials) acknowledging that Comey said anything incriminating today
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 June 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link
Corey Lewandorkski babbling about how Trump is totally vindicated, and how Comey's "leak" proves the whole deep state yadda yadda... I couldn't listen anymore, that guy is such an unpleasant tool.
― smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 8 June 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link
the "Deep State" is such a perfect bogeyman for the right, wraps up their fears of big government, conspiracies, and unaccountable elites all in one handy package
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link
Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) is set to take over as chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link
morbs you might enjoy the bbc coverage, not region blocked http://www.bbc.com/news/live/election-2017-40171454
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link
Wait, what's England again?
― scott seward, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
Sorry, but Comey Day was just so special.
― scott seward, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link
Was it pure coincidence that significant events on both sides of the Atlantic wound up happening on the same day.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link
significant events happen on both sides of the Atlantic pretty regularly
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
Hmmm
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/872939394260508673
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
Oh weird, not embedding again?
NEW: During Senate Intel Cmte's closed session today, senators learned about a 3rd, previously undisclosed meeting w Sessions & Russian(s)
Not as significant as what happens under the Pacific pretty regularly:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Qu2ofAxEmzU/VoPE_gOu3JI/AAAAAAAABN0/f7R0BUDZ2CE/s1600/GodzillaVSeaMonster%2B%252845%2529.png
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link
the "Deep State" is such a perfect bogeyman for the right
Recommend this cautionary February article re: the country that spawned the term, Turkey's derin devlet
There Is No American 'Deep State'
First, it’s not a precise application of the term; it portrays any sort of resistance to the regime as a “deep state,” failing to isolate what truly makes the shadowy structures in places like Turkey different. Second, a review of Turkish politics over the last decade shows the dangers in allowing a deep state to become a real menace in the mind of the public.“Be careful playing with the deep-state idea, because it can so easily get out of control that it becomes a monster that helps whoever’s in charge curb freedom and intimidate dissidents, because it’s such a nebulous concept,” said Soner Cagaptay.
“Be careful playing with the deep-state idea, because it can so easily get out of control that it becomes a monster that helps whoever’s in charge curb freedom and intimidate dissidents, because it’s such a nebulous concept,” said Soner Cagaptay.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Thursday, 8 June 2017 23:47 (six years ago) link
Cautionary to me? I'm not promoting it as a useful concept and duh the right in the u.s. is already going down the path described in that 2nd para.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 June 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link
Wasn't suggesting it. The tone of the article accords with your comments, and offers some insight into how it came into being.
The Turkish military and intelligence service regularly rolled back democratic encroachments on Ataturk's secular nationalist vision of Turkey. As did the Pakistani military. The cosmopolitan middle classes in those nations came to view their own deep states as a bulwark against Islamists and allied know-nothings. But the language itself is dangerous.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Friday, 9 June 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link
Too bad Letterman's retired: "Comey/Corbyn, Corbyn/Comey . . ." pic.twitter.com/bltPHR9WUc— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) June 8, 2017
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 June 2017 00:49 (six years ago) link
¯_(ツ)_/¯ pic.twitter.com/oJSCTxsmE8— Arizona Diamondbacks (@Dbacks) June 8, 2017
― comey did deflategate (daria-g), Friday, 9 June 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link
What a maverick
― Treeship, Friday, 9 June 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link
https://mobile.twitter.com/ribosomechomsky/status/872978712542814209
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Friday, 9 June 2017 01:46 (six years ago) link
http://www.twitter.com/ribosomechomsky/status/872978712542814209
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Friday, 9 June 2017 01:47 (six years ago) link
jeremy orbyn 🌹 @RibosomeChomskyOn Facebook: wow, this British election is really something huhOn twitter: THE PEOPLE'S FLAG IS DEEPEST RED5:48 PM · Jun 8, 201714 RETWEETS48 LIKES
On Facebook: wow, this British election is really something huh
On twitter: THE PEOPLE'S FLAG IS DEEPEST RED
5:48 PM · Jun 8, 2017
14 RETWEETS48 LIKES
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Friday, 9 June 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link
What is the longest he has gone without twitter?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 02:35 (six years ago) link
26 minutes
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link
He's probably playing FarmVille.
― Eazy, Friday, 9 June 2017 03:00 (six years ago) link
My Opinion On Da #JamesComey Hearing 2day.... pic.twitter.com/wBehDsVNIO— Plies (@plies) June 8, 2017
― comey did deflategate (daria-g), Friday, 9 June 2017 03:40 (six years ago) link
Plies otm
― Moodles, Friday, 9 June 2017 06:43 (six years ago) link
Answering my question:
Donald Trump Breaks Longest Twitter Silence of His Presidency: Nearly 46 HoursThursday was also only POTUS’ second Twitter-free day since he entered White House
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link
Also, GTFO with this "totally vindicated/Comey is a leaker" defense. On the former front, yeah, good luck with that. On the latter front, Comey private citizen giving a friend personal memos is not "leaking." If the goal is to further defame Comey, yeah, good luck with that. No one believes you more than him, you piece of shit.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 11:56 (six years ago) link
Also, gtfo with this "he's a liar, except with it comes to vindicating me" bullshit.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 11:58 (six years ago) link
How hard are Dems pushing back against the pushback with "testify under oath, you piece of shit?" Because that seems more effective than chanting "tax returns." There is no defense to refusing to testify under oath.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link
there's no defence to refusing to release your tax returns either, but that hasn't stopped him
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:11 (six years ago) link
Sure there is! "They're not important," "they're under audit," 'there's nothing there," etc. They're bullshit, but that's what we've got. But if you call him a liar and dare him to testify under oath, what can he say besides "I don't want to?"
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:12 (six years ago) link
what harm will befall him for saying 'i don't want to'?
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:17 (six years ago) link
Nothing.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link
well, yeah
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:19 (six years ago) link
"Harm" is a different discussion, but in a he-said-he-said fight, you're left the one refusing to go under oath. That's like refusing to take a lie detector test when you're the one whose honesty is up for debate.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link
yeah we're all very persuaded by the PERSONAL CREDIBILITY of comey, the asshole who got president shitstain elected. it's totally a "the singer, not the song" thing.
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
I don't know, I think he came off pretty well. He's many things, but is there any indication as of yet that Comey is a liar?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link
I mean, I get it, nothing is going to happen. But I was still struck by the scumbag Trump lawyer's full-on (but legally meaningless) denial that all of the things Comey claimed did not take place after Comey's testimony, which was pretty much universally hailed. And Comey universally considered more credible/trustworthy than Trump. "Well, he's just a liar" is one small step away from "well, he's new at the job."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link
It's obvious thaf Trump is lying and Comey is telling the truth.
― Treeship, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:33 (six years ago) link
You don't need to "like" Comey to see that.
Trump will never testify under oath because if he does he will lie his ass off and it will be harder to explain away that crime.
― black covfefe in bed (voodoo chili), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:55 (six years ago) link
Imo we have gotten to the point where all his collective bad decisions have begun to compound.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:06 (six years ago) link
he's certainly not getting any better at making decisions either, let's see what the world is like in a year and a half, at which time I'm hoping congress would have flipped to democratic control
― akm, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:13 (six years ago) link
Yesterday's activities across the pond give me a lot of hope (tempered with my usual dread and cynicism).
― Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link
"We serve an old moan in a dry seasonA lighthouse keeper in the desert sunDreamers of sleepers and white treasonWe dream of rain and the history of the gunThere's a lighthouse in the middle of PrussiaA white house in a red squareI'm living in films for the sake of RussiaA Kino Runner for the DDRAnd the fifty-two daughters of the revolutionTurn the gold to chromeGift...nothing to loseStuck inside of Memphis with the mobile home, sing:
Mother RussiaMother RussiaMother Russia rain down down dow"Sisters of Comey
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link
luv2vote for left-wing policies, you guys should try it sometime
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:19 (six years ago) link
If even a few new people get the takeaway "the president lies - he lies like all the time - and maybe that's kind of a problem," I'll take that as a victory (however limited and qualified).
Obviously there are going to be people who think "he lies all the time but it doesn't matter because he's a useful wrecking ball," or "he lies sometimes but the other guys lie WORSE," or even "I trust him, he never lies, it's just FAKE NEWS / media distortion." But you were never going to reach those people anyway.
And there were obviously many millions of people who never liked or trusted him to begin with; they're already on board.
The only possible good outcome is NEW people acquiring new doubts about the Orange Individual.
― bleethal weapon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:23 (six years ago) link
Meantime, an odd source to get this from but (Manuel's Tavern is indeed a real place)
Manuel's Tavern in Atlanta is offering up a new sandwich: The Donald. Wonder bread, Russian dressing, baloney, cheese, and a small pickle.— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) June 9, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link