Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

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don't think I've seen a single statement or line from anybody on the right (much less from GOP elected officials) acknowledging that Comey said anything incriminating today

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 June 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

Corey Lewandorkski babbling about how Trump is totally vindicated, and how Comey's "leak" proves the whole deep state yadda yadda... I couldn't listen anymore, that guy is such an unpleasant tool.

smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 8 June 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

the "Deep State" is such a perfect bogeyman for the right, wraps up their fears of big government, conspiracies, and unaccountable elites all in one handy package

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) is set to take over as chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

morbs you might enjoy the bbc coverage, not region blocked http://www.bbc.com/news/live/election-2017-40171454

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link

Wait, what's England again?

scott seward, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link

Sorry, but Comey Day was just so special.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link

Was it pure coincidence that significant events on both sides of the Atlantic wound up happening on the same day.

Stevolende, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

significant events happen on both sides of the Atlantic pretty regularly

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link

Hmmm

https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/872939394260508673

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

Oh weird, not embedding again?

NEW: During Senate Intel Cmte's closed session today, senators learned about a 3rd, previously undisclosed meeting w Sessions & Russian(s)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

significant events happen on both sides of the Atlantic pretty regularly

Not as significant as what happens under the Pacific pretty regularly:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Qu2ofAxEmzU/VoPE_gOu3JI/AAAAAAAABN0/f7R0BUDZ2CE/s1600/GodzillaVSeaMonster%2B%252845%2529.png

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

the "Deep State" is such a perfect bogeyman for the right

Recommend this cautionary February article re: the country that spawned the term, Turkey's derin devlet

There Is No American 'Deep State'

First, it’s not a precise application of the term; it portrays any sort of resistance to the regime as a “deep state,” failing to isolate what truly makes the shadowy structures in places like Turkey different. Second, a review of Turkish politics over the last decade shows the dangers in allowing a deep state to become a real menace in the mind of the public.

“Be careful playing with the deep-state idea, because it can so easily get out of control that it becomes a monster that helps whoever’s in charge curb freedom and intimidate dissidents, because it’s such a nebulous concept,” said Soner Cagaptay.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Thursday, 8 June 2017 23:47 (six years ago) link

Cautionary to me? I'm not promoting it as a useful concept and duh the right in the u.s. is already going down the path described in that 2nd para.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 June 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link

Wasn't suggesting it. The tone of the article accords with your comments, and offers some insight into how it came into being.

The Turkish military and intelligence service regularly rolled back democratic encroachments on Ataturk's secular nationalist vision of Turkey. As did the Pakistani military. The cosmopolitan middle classes in those nations came to view their own deep states as a bulwark against Islamists and allied know-nothings. But the language itself is dangerous.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Friday, 9 June 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

Too bad Letterman's retired: "Comey/Corbyn, Corbyn/Comey . . ." pic.twitter.com/bltPHR9WUc

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) June 8, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 June 2017 00:49 (six years ago) link

¯_(ツ)_/¯ pic.twitter.com/oJSCTxsmE8

— Arizona Diamondbacks (@Dbacks) June 8, 2017

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Friday, 9 June 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link

What a maverick

Treeship, Friday, 9 June 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link


jeremy orbyn 🌹 @RibosomeChomsky

On Facebook: wow, this British election is really something huh

On twitter: THE PEOPLE'S FLAG IS DEEPEST RED

5:48 PM · Jun 8, 2017

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Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Friday, 9 June 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link

What is the longest he has gone without twitter?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 02:35 (six years ago) link

26 minutes

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link

He's probably playing FarmVille.

Eazy, Friday, 9 June 2017 03:00 (six years ago) link

My Opinion On Da #JamesComey Hearing 2day.... pic.twitter.com/wBehDsVNIO

— Plies (@plies) June 8, 2017

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Friday, 9 June 2017 03:40 (six years ago) link

Plies otm

Moodles, Friday, 9 June 2017 06:43 (six years ago) link

Answering my question:

Donald Trump Breaks Longest Twitter Silence of His Presidency: Nearly 46 Hours
Thursday was also only POTUS’ second Twitter-free day since he entered White House

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link

Also, GTFO with this "totally vindicated/Comey is a leaker" defense. On the former front, yeah, good luck with that. On the latter front, Comey private citizen giving a friend personal memos is not "leaking." If the goal is to further defame Comey, yeah, good luck with that. No one believes you more than him, you piece of shit.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 11:56 (six years ago) link

Also, gtfo with this "he's a liar, except with it comes to vindicating me" bullshit.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 11:58 (six years ago) link

How hard are Dems pushing back against the pushback with "testify under oath, you piece of shit?" Because that seems more effective than chanting "tax returns." There is no defense to refusing to testify under oath.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link

there's no defence to refusing to release your tax returns either, but that hasn't stopped him

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:11 (six years ago) link

Sure there is! "They're not important," "they're under audit," 'there's nothing there," etc. They're bullshit, but that's what we've got. But if you call him a liar and dare him to testify under oath, what can he say besides "I don't want to?"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:12 (six years ago) link

what harm will befall him for saying 'i don't want to'?

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:17 (six years ago) link

Nothing.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link

well, yeah

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:19 (six years ago) link

"Harm" is a different discussion, but in a he-said-he-said fight, you're left the one refusing to go under oath. That's like refusing to take a lie detector test when you're the one whose honesty is up for debate.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link

yeah we're all very persuaded by the PERSONAL CREDIBILITY of comey, the asshole who got president shitstain elected. it's totally a "the singer, not the song" thing.

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link

I don't know, I think he came off pretty well. He's many things, but is there any indication as of yet that Comey is a liar?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link

I mean, I get it, nothing is going to happen. But I was still struck by the scumbag Trump lawyer's full-on (but legally meaningless) denial that all of the things Comey claimed did not take place after Comey's testimony, which was pretty much universally hailed. And Comey universally considered more credible/trustworthy than Trump. "Well, he's just a liar" is one small step away from "well, he's new at the job."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link

It's obvious thaf Trump is lying and Comey is telling the truth.

Treeship, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:33 (six years ago) link

You don't need to "like" Comey to see that.

Treeship, Friday, 9 June 2017 12:33 (six years ago) link

Trump will never testify under oath because if he does he will lie his ass off and it will be harder to explain away that crime.

black covfefe in bed (voodoo chili), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:55 (six years ago) link

Imo we have gotten to the point where all his collective bad decisions have begun to compound.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:06 (six years ago) link

he's certainly not getting any better at making decisions either, let's see what the world is like in a year and a half, at which time I'm hoping congress would have flipped to democratic control

akm, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:13 (six years ago) link

Yesterday's activities across the pond give me a lot of hope (tempered with my usual dread and cynicism).

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link

"We serve an old moan in a dry season
A lighthouse keeper in the desert sun
Dreamers of sleepers and white treason
We dream of rain and the history of the gun
There's a lighthouse in the middle of Prussia
A white house in a red square
I'm living in films for the sake of Russia
A Kino Runner for the DDR
And the fifty-two daughters of the revolution
Turn the gold to chrome
Gift...nothing to lose
Stuck inside of Memphis with the mobile home, sing:

Mother Russia
Mother Russia
Mother Russia rain down down dow"
Sisters of Comey

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link

Yesterday's activities across the pond give me a lot of hope (tempered with my usual dread and cynicism).

luv2vote for left-wing policies, you guys should try it sometime

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:19 (six years ago) link

If even a few new people get the takeaway "the president lies - he lies like all the time - and maybe that's kind of a problem," I'll take that as a victory (however limited and qualified).

Obviously there are going to be people who think "he lies all the time but it doesn't matter because he's a useful wrecking ball," or "he lies sometimes but the other guys lie WORSE," or even "I trust him, he never lies, it's just FAKE NEWS / media distortion." But you were never going to reach those people anyway.

And there were obviously many millions of people who never liked or trusted him to begin with; they're already on board.

The only possible good outcome is NEW people acquiring new doubts about the Orange Individual.

bleethal weapon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:23 (six years ago) link

Meantime, an odd source to get this from but (Manuel's Tavern is indeed a real place)

Manuel's Tavern in Atlanta is offering up a new sandwich: The Donald. Wonder bread, Russian dressing, baloney, cheese, and a small pickle.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) June 9, 2017

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link

Separately, profiles in courage

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/senate-republicans-consider-keeping-parts-of-obamacare-they-once-promised-to-kill/2017/06/08/9befcd68-4c77-11e7-9669-250d0b15f83b_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.d674d3e5eed1

Even some less aggressive critics of the law are uncomfortable with bluntly describing what the talks have largely become: a negotiation about how much of Obamacare to leave in place and for how long.

“Ah, well,” said Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) before pausing to consider what to say next. “Depends how you phrase it, I guess. I mean, obviously, it’s there. We have to deal with it. We’re doing the best we can.”

Other Republican senators sought to play down any controversy about the parts of the law they are contemplating keeping in place.

“We think we’re repealing the most obnoxious parts of Obamacare,” said Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), who argued that “there are some parts of Obamacare that are completely nonpartisan, almost.”

But that nuanced posture stands in contrast to the way Republicans vilified the law in consecutive elections after it was enacted in 2010. They slammed Democrats who voted for it and campaigned repeatedly on the promise of repealing the law entirely if voters gave them control of Congress and the White House.

“I think we’re all adjusting to the reality of the current debate and what it takes to get across the finish line,” said Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.).

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link


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