brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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is there going to be an easy way of undoing the damage she's doing once she's gone?

Was hoping the DUP coalition thing might be famous last words. Hoping that what I heard about meetings early next week might add some nails to taht coffin, but does she need to be staked too?

Stevolende, Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link

Heath was a chilly uncomfortable weirdo too.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link

weird that she seems to have modeled her laugh on his, also

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:42 (six years ago) link

Some amusing snapshots from Kensington constituency today:

*Labour voters ECSTATIC and saying now that it's gone to Labour they'll redouble efforts to keep it that way
*Akala turned up to the farmer's market today and had his ear bent by the youfdem (I congratulated him for his viral post and we chatted for a bit about Patrice Lumumba's family being mates with Corbyn).
Tory voters (farmers who are traders) are extremely demoralised!
A friend of mine who is a jewellery designer (and makes T May's statement necklaces) had nowt to say but she is posh and Greek and I suspect she doesn't have a vote anyway
Thought this thread needed to be called Bad Friday Agreement tbh

syzygy stardust (suzy), Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link

saw that joke already too often on twitter, also it's now saturday

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link

Is the double is in the title deliberate?

K-hole MacLachlan (wins), Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

this is clearly a nightmare on stilts for mummy tho

||||||||, Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

"the sometimes flashy, often innovative leadership of jeremy thorpe - who sometimes travelled between campaign events by hovercraft"

who is our jeremy thorpe

||||||||, Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link

It's not impossible that Corbyn's team listened to some of Owen Jones's criticisms and reacted positively to them - I'd be surprised if he didn't have a strong connection to some in the camp, younger backroom staff especially. There's been a marked improvement in Corbyn's media performance over the last couple of months and that's not just down to campaign rules forcing TV to give him a fair hearing - he's used the platform much better. The difference between OJ and some of the others is that he was coming from a position of fundamentally wanting Corbyn/the Labour left to succeed - others were willing him to fail.

The Tories had no such figures warning Theresa May's team about their approach, certainly not before the campaign, and look what happened there.

The coverage and narrative will be very different next time - a buoyant opposition leader with his authority hugely enhanced vs a brittle PM whose authority has collapsed within their own party - the complete inverse of last time, except May has a big pile of Brexit shit to deal with. This Chris fuckwit, who I'd never heard of before today, would do well to stfu.

I still think that Boris might struggle to win over his own MPs.

Matt DC, Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

x-post to wins: *makes haughty joke-is-over-yr-head sign*

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

who is our jeremy thorpe

simon danczuk

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

unfair, i thought Thorpe was likeable

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

Answering that question could be libellous.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

hey guys try this on for size:

prime minister jacob rees-mogg

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link

Seeing a lot of "the pollsters didn't see this coming", when YouGov in fact predicted almost this exact eventuality, so presumably they spent the whole of yesterday downing tequila shots and doing lines in the office.

Matt DC, Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link

Yeah OJ definitely wanted it to succeed but went really off in the end. Never a huge fan but I couldn't help but watch his um, journey.

I didn't see huge improvements in Corbyn's performance - I think the extra polish just came with time in the job. Then again he has never quite been in those General election settings before so not sure there are points of comparison. All of the warmth toward people, the rallies and so on, there as always and that stuff really translated.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

whoever it was suggested leaking the manifesto deserves a jar of JC's jam, that was inspired

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link

Owen Jones' first job out of Oxford: John McDonnell's researcher.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link

lol david allen green just followed me

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

tonight perhaps a good night to liveblog the second gor film, for his lawerly benefit

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link

That's a great first job for anybody, never mind for Owen Jones. Shame he couldn't keep on the path when needed.

In other news:

"Corbyn’s politics need to be fought and his leadership undermined. I’ll do my best," says @OliverKamm

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link

if we can make someone eat a book, we can win a majority

devvvine, Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

This is beautiful stuff:

Andrew Lilico‏ @andrew_lilico 3h

2 of biggest consequences of #GE2017 1) In future parties will hv much more explicit youth voter offers. eg house prices being affordable. +
10 replies . 8 retweets 9 likes
Andrew Lilico‏ @andrew_lilico 3h

+2) We now need urgent constitutional reform so our system cld resist a Marxist-Socialist Commons majority for a time to test if public +
12 replies . 12 retweets 8 likes

Andrew Lilico‏ @andrew_lilico

+really want it. 1 option's stronger monarchy & 2nd chamber+more economic & equity principles built into the law. Alternative ideas welcome.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

Kamm is one of those people where you read his bio and assume he's a standard Tory hack and then you realise

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

Has he eaten the book yet?

plums (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

Dying now that I've discovered the hashtag assigned to this palaver is #MayDUP

syzygy stardust (suzy), Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

lol!

calzino, Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

Don't ever say I am not a man of my word pic.twitter.com/DIxbYBilAL

— Matthew Goodwin (@GoodwinMJ) June 10, 2017

K-hole MacLachlan (wins), Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB-IyZ9XsAIFLi4.jpg:large

i feel he is only eating bits of it

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

LOL @ MayDUP

sleeve, Saturday, 10 June 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/f7euzcfST9

— wint MP (@parliawint) June 10, 2017

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link

Waiting for her to go so hashtag army can move onto #fuckDUP

syzygy stardust (suzy), Saturday, 10 June 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

"It may be entirely co-incidental that the man who channelled £425,622 to the DUP had such extremely high level Saudi connections. We simply don’t know. We also don’t know whether the current Saudi ambassador had any knowledge of his father’s connection to Richard Cook. But here’s the thing: the DUP claims not to know either. And that is at best reckless and at worst illegal."

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/what-connects-brexit-the-dup-dark-money-and-a-saudi-prince-1.3083586?mode=amp

Whooremeister (jed_), Saturday, 10 June 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

Barwell is the new Chief Of Staff.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 10 June 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

@parliawint is a goldmine

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 10 June 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

Looking forward to see what Atul Hatwal on Labour Uncut has to say about all this

Warren's Treat (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 10 June 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

and will anybody care?

Meantime:

The DUP has "agreed to the principles of an outline agreement" to support the Conservatives on a 'confidence and supply' basis

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

This margin is tight as hell. Five barking Tories could give Corbyn a chance to form a government at any time. I don't think there are any that mad, but there are enough to otherwise paralyse, well, just about everything. Do the Tories agree on anything? Gutting the NHS perhaps.

stet, Saturday, 10 June 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

Sorry I just fucking love this: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/09/jeremy-corbyn-west-nato-russia-215242

Labour’s more sensible officials have done their best to moderate or mask Corbyn’s underlying attitudes in order to make him more electable.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

do the dup agree on gutting the nhs? this is their manifesto: http://www.mydup.com/policies/a-world-class-health-service

on the whole -- aside from stuff relating to religious ideology -- they want more money investing in NI resources, not cuts

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

Do the Tories even agree on the DUP being suitable bed partners.
Haven't heard if that was a widespread agreement or just TM thinking that it made things up to the majority figure when she was in a bind.

Stevolende, Saturday, 10 June 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/northern-ireland/2017/06/no-theresa-may-dup-will-not-join-formal-coalition

^^^this is sensible on how the dup will roll

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB9o6sKXkAE1xsS.jpg:large

dup priorities re hung parliament as set out in 2015

(i don't actually think it's bad politics for opponents to belabour their attitude on sexuality and gender and etc, bcz it puts pressure on the tories -- but the dup have little leverage to impose these beyond NI, a very practical recognition of the limits of their abiluty to do so, and the harm it would do them, and much investment in the devolved GFA status quo… they no more want a return to the troubles than anyone else there. the bigger danger is the tories fucking up and destabilising NI as they flail, with a minor additional danger that being pressured when they're in such an awful position will cause them to fuck up… they are (as tom d said above) world-class trolls with obnoxious beliefs, and they are, along with the whole of NI currently, stuck in a stupid situation of their own making, the cash for ash scandal, but on the whole i trust their brinkmanship more than i trust may's)

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

that embed^^^will enlarge if you open image in a new tab, i think

mark s, Saturday, 10 June 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

somebody just shared this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsGVghRBdKI

Stevolende, Saturday, 10 June 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

It’s back to the seventies with Theresa May

delicious

||||||||, Saturday, 10 June 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

is jonathan pie our answer to chapo trap house or something

imago, Saturday, 10 June 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

The Mail On Sunday dedicates 80% of the front page to suggesting Johnson is mounting a leadership campaign and the remaining 20% to an offer for a free head massager, which seems about right.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 10 June 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

Jonathan Pie is our answer to an excruciatingly unfunny twat

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 June 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link


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