Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

"would expect him to be buds w/ spuds mckenzie"

don't harsh on spuds like that

correction: to SAY he was buds w/ spuds

Truly missed opportunity to give Rodman Sec. of State position. But I suppose there's still time.

who could pass up an opportunity for a double team reunion with rodman secretary of state and jean-claude van damme as fbi director

am I the only one who is thinking "Democrats need to start playign some fuckign hardball here"

They'd have to pass legislation to OK JCVD, so ... yeah go for it! Being Belgian should give us more negotiating power with the EU!

xpost Is that a Double Team reference or are you just saying Dems need to toughen up? Good luck on that front, though I look forward to Sessions getting yelled at today when he claims executive privilege as an excuse for refusing to admit if he was in the room with Trump or not. Certainly if Trump fired Mueller and congress refused to reimplement IC I'd support a full Dem hissy fit. Until then, Dem outrage does not seem to be moving the needle at all. Maybe they should goad Trump into taxing the McDonald's dollar menu?

am I the only one who is thinking "Democrats need to start playign some fuckign hardball here"

― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Tuesday, June 13, 2017

I thought so in 1982.

if wishes were fishes

but they're not now watch all the 'entitlements' donnie two-scoops abolishes

this is very bad

Senate Dems believe escalating by using 'nuclear option' over AHCA would unify GOP, make AHCA _more_ likely

From an aide on background: pic.twitter.com/nVyCUH7T67

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_Vox) June 12, 2017

this guy is very bad: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/magazine/the-man-behind-trumps-voter-fraud-obsession.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=image&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

well at least russian immigration won't be restricted

remediable. anybody who lives in a state with dem senators, remind them what we expect of them, and encourage those you know to do likewise.

Russian Cyber Hacks on U.S. Electoral System Far Wider Than Previously Known

n Illinois, investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data. The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database. Details of the wave of attacks, in the summer and fall of 2016, were provided by three people with direct knowledge of the U.S. investigation into the matter. In all, the Russian hackers hit systems in a total of 39 states, one of them said.

The scope and sophistication so concerned Obama administration officials that they took an unprecedented step -- complaining directly to Moscow over a modern-day “red phone.” In October, two of the people said, the White House contacted the Kremlin on the back channel to offer detailed documents of what it said was Russia’s role in election meddling and to warn that the attacks risked setting off a broader conflict.

Apparently last night's closed briefing by NSA chief Rogers to the Senate Intel folks was about/over two hours. And, unsurprisingly perhaps, has something to do with Sessions's appearance before said committee today.

See obama used backchannels too #jerkoff #eyeroll #dies

And he talked to Russians! Case closed!

time to open hearings into how Obama used backchannels to asks Russians to help Hillary throw the election #throwgate

ctrl-f ITT

Russia: 123 hits
health care: 31 hits
AHCA: 9 hits

"Congressional Democrats found themselves under considerable pressure to hold hearings on Nixon's Trump's alleged abuse of presidential powers."

xpost Seems to me a general consensus that Senate and House fucking around with ACA is just wheel spinning, so perhaps that explains why protest has been put on the protest back burner. I mean, no one likes anything they have heard about it at all, and no one has even seen the Senate one, correct?

Donnie Two-Scoops is such an ace Mafia nickname.

Xpost

Graham said that he hasn't seen it and doesn't want to see it

Meaning ... he won't support it? Or he'll vote for whatever is put in front of him?

The latter. We're talking about Republicans.

Top Senate D aide emails to say not going nuclear on AHCA also allows them to hammer out bipartisan Russian sanctions deal. So there's that

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_Vox) June 13, 2017

russiarussirussia

I love the weird logic at work. GOP: I don't want to see it, but I will vote for it. Dems: I want to see it, but I won't vote for it.

xpost That is so dumb. So the Dems would sign on the potentially shitty ACHA, thus receiving the GOP of its onerous burden. But then it gets Russia sanctions, which not only weakens their argument that the GOP is doing nothing on Russian, but provides the GOP cover. "See, we voted for sanctions!" Yeah, this all seems like a good idea. 1D chess.

Relieving, not receiving.

i don't think the dems would vote for it regardless - i think the point was more that dems are not gonna turn the dial up to 11 on obstructionist tactics they could do, which i understand would push back the vote by a week or two at most

q week or two is a massive amount of time if used correctly imo

no Dems are going to vote for the ACHA

Top Senate D aide emails to say not going nuclear on AHCA also allows them to hammer out bipartisan Russian sanctions deal. So there's that
— Jeff Stein (@JStein_Vox) June 13, 2017

What

The

Fuck

No D is going to vote for it, sheesh. It's just a question of what procedural stuff they can do to show they are Doing Something. Never mind whether the something is pointless or even counterproductive.

IIRC we already had that conversation on the Gorsuch filibuster. Insert your stock pro/con arguments again here, I guess.

BTW Gorsuch is on the Court anyway, and good ILX leftists still think the Dems are spineless pussies anyway.

i do think a week or two would be crucial yeah, given that there is a very hard deadline to get the AHCA passed under budget reconciliation rules

Stopping this murderous bill should be a first priority. They should stall as much as possible, whip up as much public anger as possible, do anything they can.

YMP otm

Imo we should see if Russia hacked Senate ballots next

They should stall as much as possible, whip up as much public anger as possible, do anything they can.

Exactly. That seems neither pointless nor counter-productive to me.

but who says collegiality is dead amirite

counterpoint: https://newrepublic.com/minutes/143300/senate-democrats-need-go-nuclear-trumpcare-right-now

someone call a scientist

Duh.

They would go nuclear if it was called the Murder Sick Americans Act I hope. That's what the bill does.

Part of me thinks the GOP is going to punt the AHCA when it appears passing it will defang it and go back to Let ACA fail mode.

The GOP is interested only in optics, not governing. And if they fail to pass it, they can assign blame outward.

Xpost "living is a privilege, not a right. Nothing in the Bill of Rights protects you from murder "

There seem to be a good number of congressional Republicans who really believe voters directed them to dismantle Obamacare. I think that's a misreading -- their voters were anti-Obama, not anti-health-care.

first of all, there is no "nuclear option" over the AHCA. The GOP doesn't need their votes to pass AHCA, everything is already set up for it to be passed along 51-seat majority vote, there's no need to break a filibuster, etc.

The tactics referred to in that tweet are all *unrelated* to the AHCA bill, and more like the Senate Democrats just refusing to do any work at all: denying quorums on committee proceedings, boycotting hearings, etc. The upshot of this is that the Democrats stop governing or having any voice in Senate proceedings. Who thinks this would be a good thing and why? What would happen is that the GOP would get pissed and just pass everything they want anyway, only slightly slower. Bizarre that anyone thinks McConnell would not see through this tactic, exploit it, and get what he wants. The Dems should fight AHCA tooth and nail, but these are stupid, ineffective tactics you guys are arguing for.

xp

Who cares what they think.

If Democrats fail to make a big show of blocking this sneaky, evil bill in order to keep a spotlight on Russia, they are imbeciles with backwards priorities.

outic & ymp otm