brutality is a beating for sure and blessed alliance is in a lot of sideboards now because of shadow.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
i picked up eldrazi taxes (fun & relatively cheap) online after i decided i was done with amonkhet
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
Burn drops some creatures vs brutality as a response.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
yeah im pretty sure you should only be playing goblin guide, swiftspear, and eidolon
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
Probably so, although I'm still stubbornly on Nacatls.
However, vs brutality at least Goblin Guide should be sided out, maybe more.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link
i think i disagree
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
yeah goblin guide is still your best turn 1 play and best shot at getting 6-8 damage out of one card. I think swiftspear would be a better thing to side out (especially on the draw) because a t1 swiftspear that gets brutalitied means you traded a card + a mana for 1 damage. dunno how burn usually boards though, I've never played it.
― iatee, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link
keldon marauders and hellspark elemental are old phased-out burn cards that don't care about collective brutality, i wonder if we'll ever see them again
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
hate to be the clueless dude here but what makes collective brutality so good
― frogbs, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
burn needs a critical mass of spells to deal 20 damage, and has no real defenses so its on a strict clock to put that together vs any non-control deck. all 3 modes on collective brutality can be worth a card vs burn, so it lets you 2 for 2 or 3 for 3 them for just 2 mana which slows the game down enough that they usually can't draw into the win in time.
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
meanwhile it fills up the graveyard for delve and snapcaster
― Moodles, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
wizards got back to me and is cool w/ me deferring the invite if need be which is great cause even if I didn't have the work stuff, this whole thing was a little too last minute. so I am actually more excited now than I was before since before it was like "wow this might be a huge pain in the ass / I might not get to go at all."
I'll probably try to get into standard now, not that it's thattt useful since it's going to be an unsolved format, but I have played literally 0 competitive REL games of standard in my life.
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link
if you're doing the fall one in albuquerque, it'll actually be like a month and a half into the format since they're running worlds as the set release tournament instead of the PT
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
probably a lot more favorable to ppl without teams
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link
oh that's great actually
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/rLEI9Yv.png
very...interesting cards.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link
announcements are up
Fall and Winter - Ixalan and Rivals of Ixalan - jungle world w/ pirates and dinosaurs, vraska is a main character for some reasonSpring 2018 - Dominaria - standalone large set, they brought back richard garfield for the design teamSummer 2018 is a core set as previously announced, no details yetthey finally let Maro make a 3rd Un-set, its called Unstable and is out in decemberthere's a 25th anniversary masters set out next spring that's not the same thing as 'iconic masters' - sounds like iconic masters is more of a casual set whereas this one will be more like a modern masters set
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link
oh wow, as an old-school player I'm really excited for the Dominaria set
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
don't especially care for pirates and dinosaurs in particular but ixalan does sound like it is going to be a fun setting
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
there's also a from the vault: double faced cards, for all the people who were waiting for fancy delvers and such
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link
I generally don't care about flavor but dominaria is pretty much the only plane that I'm ever gonna look forward to
I don't get un-sets. why do people buy them? what do you do with the pack when you open it? it's like paying $3.50 for a comic strip.
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link
un-sets are really fun to draft, plus the lands inside are generally worth a buck or two
I agree they're a tough sell but I did think the last one was really funny
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
i don't like un-sets so i can't help you there. the only card from the last one i think is funny is http://magiccards.info/uh/en/29.html and i'm not even sure why
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link
this one is totally stupid but I love it
http://magiccards.info/uh/en/43.html
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link
I also dig how they use the opportunity to make all sorts of legitimately interesting cards that just couldn't be done in "real" Magic due to all the rules nightmares. Reminds me of the ol' "if you disagree on rules, just flip a coin" days
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
none of those gotcha type cards are actually fun though because the optimal thing to do is just not talk ever
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
yeah I think even Maro admitted those were a mistake
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link
i didn't see that the Dominaria set is actually called Dominaria. that in itself is kind of interesting
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
I'm curious if it'll have a Time Spiral vibe to it
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
i wonder. that could've been a p cool alternative tack for a masters set
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
most really old cards suck so it'd be hard to make an exciting masters set out of just dominaria sets
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
that would for sure be an obstacle. there've got to be a few thousand cards tho.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
i guess bad creatures alone might be enough to kill it
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
dinosaur set - coolDominaria - YESUn-set - never expected this to happen, surprised it is buried at the end of the article
did a Unglued draft back in college and it wasn't that fun, actually. heard similar about Unhinged. some of the cards in both sets crack me up though. very curious what a modern Un-set would look like, after 13 years of lessons learned. I think they'll make it play a lot better than the last two, certainly
― Vinnie, Thursday, 15 June 2017 01:35 (six years ago) link
unsets are the sort of corny non-humor that makes me hate nerds so much. them existing makes magic a worse game
happy abt a return to dominaria
― ( ^_^) (Lamp), Thursday, 15 June 2017 06:14 (six years ago) link
3rd Un-set already exists, it's called Future Sight
still pretty curious as to what an Un-walker will look like. can't believe Unhinged was really that long ago, wow
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link
i had a couple akh packs sitting on my account so i decided to do a draft for the first time in weeks. looking at the first pack i just wanted to turn my computer off and go for a walk.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link
hehe i still like AKH fine but i don't love it like i thought i was going to at the start. i'm ready for the next thing.
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link
they're doing a team pro tour next summer
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link
I only did one sealed but that's mostly because I've gotten back into online poker. Feel like I'm too far behind to start drafting this now.
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link
also someone leaked a photo of part of the Ixalan rare sheet on reddit. no keyword mechanics in sight but there's a pirate guy that makes Treasure tokens that are basically lotus petals, and Sunpetal Grove is on there so we're getting that land cycle back finally.
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link
https://i.redd.it/r7yoylx9ht3z.jpg
also has the pithing needle people have been asking for, though you have to pay an extra mana for the privilege of looking at your opponent's hand
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link
It seems like there are always too many people trying to force red white aggro, and the other colours are subsequently very open. Lay claim seems to go crazily late.
― AlanSmithee, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
I like that way better than Pithing Needle. One extra mana isn't that big a difference is it?
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link
not really since generally when you want needle you're using it to turn off your opponent's deck, not just 'trade' it for any old card. but in that case the hand peek doesn't matter much either.
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link
right, i think 1 mana vs 2 prob will prob come up more often than there being a selection of things you want to needle
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
those effects are always overrated anyway, both needle effects and cranial extraction effects. people try to use them on everything when they're only particularly effective vs one-dimensional combo decks.
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link
It seems like there are always too many people trying to force red white aggro, and the other colours are subsequently very open
i admit i'm curious what kind of correction has been going on if any in response to this kind of thing. didn't learn anything from my draft, was just a mess.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 15 June 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link
wow, look at those rares. 3 drop haste that...makes mana, a 7 mana draw 7, 5 mana anthem+. looks like might be a touch slower than akh.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 15 June 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link
xp i suspect GB or UG will be wide open most drafts, but uh they're not very strong pairs so you have to be sure that's actually the case.
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link