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Not sure. I assumed he was tipped off to its location by Gus and that Hector will be somehow implicated in the death but nothing was made explicit afaik. All will presumably be revealed next week.

I'm thinking they can't possibly have more than one season of flashbacks left at this point. I'd love the series to continue, though, so I hope they're setting us up for the continuing adventures of Gene Gene the Cinnabon Machine.

The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T & the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

I do have a sentimental hope that Gene meets up with Kim somehow and they live happily ever after scamming people at the mall

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link

i thought the corpse in the desert was related to the woman that he met at the church? didn't she have a husband that went missing? and then when they showed the corpse they made a point of showing the wedding ring on the finger. i have no idea how he found the body, though. tbh i have been baffled about mike's storyline for most of this season simply because i forgot what happened during the last season and there hasn't really been a good recap of it at any point.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

also i'm concurrently rewatching breaking bad and i'm starting to mix up all of mike's storylines

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

jimmy's low-level sleaze really moving up to a higher degree of unpleasant manipulativeness than i think we've seen before here

― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:00 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kinda reminded me of walt in that they're slowly pushing him into clear 'just an asshole huh' territory. I guess they have always been building that up with childhood stories etc. this did feel like a break w/ the previous jimmy-being-jimmy schemes though, like it seemed designed to make you hate him. there's no 'she had it coming' here - he's just making an innocent old lady feel super alienated and terrible.

iatee, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

I thought the corpse was the driver mike got killed and has felt guilty about and now he'll get a decent burial.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

ditto

Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

i have no fucking clue what's going on

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

I thought the corpse was the driver mike got killed and has felt guilty about and now he'll get a decent burial.

this was my assumption as well

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

Same here. Would've thought they'd remove rings and whatnot from the people they kill thought. FULL MEASURE.

nashwan, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link

i was with zs on the "helping the nice church lady getting over the killing of her husband" motive

the slight eyeroll of mike re the guy on the segway was gratuitous and appreciated.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 15 June 2017 04:52 (six years ago) link

this kid they got to play Young Chuck did a really good job of capturing his speech patterns

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link

holy shit chuck

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 02:49 (six years ago) link

holy shit at Gus being so... Gus... that he tries to save Hector

mh, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link

the "talking saul" aftershow has the howard actor talking about his character is awesome

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link

Holy shit Chuck, several times over.

An episode ago, I would have (and believe I did itt) said that we only had another season left in the pre-BB world, but they managed to roll back a few developments that I thought were coming to a head (Jimmy going full Saul, Jimmy and Kim drifting apart).

Weird that Mike was completely absent from the season finale.

I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 03:29 (six years ago) link

wow odenkirk is so grey in real life

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link

that was their best episode to date imo

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 04:42 (six years ago) link

honestly, I didn't miss Mike at all. I get why people like the character and his plots but they are not what I go to this show for primarily tbh

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link

Interesting that they'd have us think Chuck was better when he wasn't and that Jimmy was now fully Saul only for him to roll back too.

nashwan, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

Well, he was better, but he had one hell of a relapse. Mental health is a process of maintenance.

I was really hopeful when he called the doctor's office, because he should have been seeing if he could get in sooner. :(

mh, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

feeling pretty vindicated as a howard stan

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

interesting that the two characters in this universe easiest to stereotype as douchebags (howard, hank) end up being the decentest people in their shows

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 June 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link

i thought these episodes (saw the last two today as been away for a while) kinda dragged howard back into asshole territory. i mean, he was obv conflicted about the chuck stuff, but the attempt to kick him out and the perfect false speech, the smiling and applauding etc, all pretty grim. i like howard but felt they've been reminding us he's not a good person.

i really liked the way hector's raging speech, which was incredibly delivered imo, touched on the same themes as all the howard/chuck stuff, the ownership of the company and the family history etc, just in totally different worlds.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

I dunno, I was feeling Howard this week, particularly when Chuck accused Howard of betraying him and I said OH HELL NO YOU DID NOT JUST GO THERE. I think Howard went above and beyond in his accommodation of Chuck throughout the entire portion of their relationship that we got to see.

I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

I guess Howard's off the hook for the other $6 million?

Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link

Firefighters could still turn up, or the contract might require payments to his estate

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 00:49 (six years ago) link

this show has an incredible knack for making characters irredeemably unsympathetic and then somehow turning around on that

was this the first time we heard a definitive year? 2003. Breaking Bad started in 2008, not sure if it was set in 2008 though. That means they could conceivably squeeze another 4 or 5 seasons out

akm, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link

i was thinking about the year when she went to the video shop, i wondered if they added that in to square that circle.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link

That is certainly some high-speed and not very deliberate movie renting

Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

Jamiroquai's 'Little L' was playing in the Blockbuster. Dedicated to Lydia.

nashwan, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

hfs at this final episode, that was brutal

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

Made me feel old as in my head it's a fairly recent tune.

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chap, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

I feel a bit short-changed by just 10 episodes in this season. it was great but it felt like they were stretching plotlines by the last ep or two, which is very unusual for BB or BCS.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

this kid they got to play Young Chuck did a really good job of capturing his speech patterns

I actually thought at first that this was some trickery using McKean's actual voice in some way, v impressive performance

more like matthew badlose (wins), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

I thought it was. They did that in that space cowboys movie. You can have the actor read the lines and pitch shift it a bit.

Great The Conversation vibe going on in chucks house.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

No, they say on the bcs podcast that it was the kid's reading

more like matthew badlose (wins), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

I feel like this was the first time we saw the full outside of that house, it was much uglier than I was expecting.

akm, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

Yeah also funny that even in the middle of the day or with the lamps on in the evening the house interior is just gloomy as hell.

Would like to see Howard's pad.

nashwan, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link

I'm gonna miss that interior

more like matthew badlose (wins), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

Great The Conversation vibe going on in chucks house.

― dan selzer, Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:15 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was thinking this exact thing.

It freaked me out a little when I heard McKean's voice coming out of that kid, but I think it freaks me out more to discover that it wasn't even actually McKean's voice.

I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

That must've been a helluva casting call for all of those young Michael McKean impersonators out there.

I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

On the podcast they said the kid had evidently done a study of mckeans speech patterns off his own bat before coming to the audition, they weren't actively looking for impersonators

more like matthew badlose (wins), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

I was thinking of Ray Bradbury's "The Fruit at the Bottom of the Bowl", and doesn't McKean go and mention that very story in the "Talking Saul" wrapup

Wet Pelican would provide the soundtrack (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

i already miss this show.

at the talkback i was at, they specified the Blockbuster scene as a little special moment for folks of a certain age.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

it did make me think of how I lived through the entire lifecycle of an industry model, from birth to death

Blockbuster always sucked tho tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

whenever they show chuck's house i keep hoping that it's the same neighborhood as Jesse Pinkman's house and that maybe we'll see his parents walking on the sidewalk or something

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

The finale had a couple of brilliant scenes (Chuck literally tearing the house apart) but it felt like the weakest season over all. Lots of watchable but baggy and disjointed plotlines, a general sense that you can see the strings moving, with Jimmy's storyline in particular.

Jimmy ending up broke (and on the road to Saul) through an act of selflessness was an excellent character move but I dunno if the Sandpiper stuff was the most interesting way the writers could have gone about.

Matt DC, Monday, 3 July 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

cosign that post 100%

k3vin k., Monday, 3 July 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link


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